* All NW Scale Meet, Helena, MT May 18-20 2007 *

[Unimoger]

A bunch of us scale nuts are getting together at the " Rock Garden ", in Rimini Montana.

Time: May 18-20 2007, Site recon and course set up Thursday, and run Friday and Saturday, Sunday fun run, trail rides, videos, supers etc, play day.

Since many of you have never been here before, I'll post up some info.



Here is the town of Helena:
http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp...te=mt&zipcode=

Here is where the site is:
http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp...y=US&geodiff=1

Here are directions from town to the comp site:
http://www.mapquest.com/directions/m...mini&2s=mt&2z=

List of Hotels in Helena, near the I-15 interchange, Hotels range from $39 - $125 a night:

* Best Western - 1-406-457-5500
* Holiday Inn - 1-800-743-7480
* Colonial hotel Red Lion - 1-406-443-2100
* Days Inn - 1-406-442-3280
* Hampton Inn - 1-406-449-6132
* Holiday Inn Express - 1-406-449-4000
* Jorgenson's Inn and Suites - 1-406-442-1770
* Motel 6 - 1-406-442-9990
* Shilo Inns - 1-406-442-0320
* Blackstone Inn - 1-406-442-3064
* Wingate Inn - 1-406-449-3000

There is also a USFS camp site 1 mile from the comp area, sites are $9 a night, no showers, just bathrooms. Go to www.USFS.com and look up Rimini Montana. You can make reservations online.

The day use area for the comp in called " Moose Creek ", yes, you may see some of them, there is FREE camping down the road 1 mile near the river, it may be a bit cold at night, but it is free.

Although scale rigs are the main theme of the event, bring anything you want. 2.2s and 1.9s will have the most fun here. We will run 2.2 unlimited's on their own course's, USRCCA rules apply. http://usrcca.com/rules.htm A comp-worthy Super will become boring fairly quick.

The rules and classes that the guys at Scale4x4 laid out are listed below, but I will run the USRCCA rules, http://usrcca.com/rules.htm for 2.2 unlimited courses and the Scale4x4 and Nor-Cal rules for Follow the Leader type events.

We would like to have a raffle and drawings for this event, so if you and your company would like to donate raffle items and have your name on the Banner and advertising, please PM me.
List as of now for the raffle:


www.montanascaledesigns.com
www.hpiracing.com
www.rccrawler.com
www.rcpcrawlers.com
www.TheCrawlerStore.com
www.reignrc.com
www.cheapbatterypacks.com
www.Finish-line-rc.com
www.bendercustoms.com
www.1doublej.com
www.scale4x4rc.org
www.rcbros.com
www.diazdesigns.net
www.jpcustomrcs.com
www.taylorshobbyproducts.com
www.crawfordperformanceengineering.com
www.mfmracing.com
MOCRAWLER417
www.bluemonster-rc.com


General rules:
This is a true scale off-road competition. All classes are welcome and all styles. The classes will be broke down into the listing below. There will be two general events for all the classes. A follow the leader course and then a labeled trail that must be followed. The catch here is that if you get stuck you will have to depend on a fellow RC driver from your own class to free you or right you if you flip with his/her rig. We will have a designated rescue rigs that can be used for all classes, but with no guarantee in success. If all efforts fail and the rig can not be freed by another classmate then a manual retrieval is allowed, but with point deduction. There will be some water hazards so waterproofing is recommended. Power will be provide via 1:1 rigs batteries and power inverters. A generator may be on hand. Needless to say battery charging will be a time consuming part of the day. Bring yourself plenty of batteries and a charger. You are allowed to manually hook up your rigs. If you have winches you are allowed to free yourself without points deduction.


Classmates: A classmate is anyone running in the same class as you.

Number or vehicles allowed is unlimited, but just remember you can only drive one in Gated competition.
Each driver may only enter 1 vehicle per class. But multiple drivers can enter the same vehicle in any given class.

If you have wood bridges, rope bridges, scale obstacles and parts to use in a course of any kind, please bring them, we will incorporate them into the courses.


Classes:
1.9. This class will be limited to all 1.9 rim sized rigs. You may cut down and modify a 2.2 tire to fit a 1.9 rim also. IF you have question whether your rigs rubber will be legal just ask. SEE NOR-CAL RULES BELOW ALSO

The 2.2 scale class will consist of anything using 2.2 rims. All mods are welcome and winches are suggested if available. Anything and everything is allowed but vehicles must be scale in appearance. SEE NOR-CAL RULES BELOW ALSO

2.2 unlimited class, follows USRCCA RULES.

Super class Pretty simple...you guys know the deal. These rigs can be brought to the site, but will become boring.

Events:

Follow the leader. This is a pretty straightforward and simple event. A coin toss will decide the leader and from there he/she will choose the trail to follow. He will stay the leader until he can’t go no further or gets stuck. Then the next person in line becomes the leader. This sounds boring to some people, but trust me it can be a challenge to follow some of these rigs. Once again there is no hands on. If you get stuck or flipped your classmate is your salvation or the rescue rigs will be. If you have to manually remove the vehicle or right it, then you will loose points. There will be a designated starting point and finish points. It is up to the leaders to find the line best for them and hoping to keep the most points. The point is to get everyone else stuck while your rigs makes it through. Helping you keep the advantage.

Euro Trials Course – In this event you will be awarded points for passing through marked buoys in a given direction. If you are not able to pass through the buoys in the indicated direction or if you touch the buoys while passing though the gate you will not get any points. This setup will be more of a challenging event. There will be a number of ravines, bridges, creeks and hills to traverse and climb. Again the, “stuck” rule applies. Failure to take the course within the markers will result in point’s deduction also.

Points system is differently based on the event run.


Thanks to badger and the Nor-cal RC guys for these rules:
2.2 and 1.9 Scale Truck Class
(* The goal of these class's is to have a scale looking rig.)
• Vehicle must have a frame-railed chassis. Tubed frame rails are ok.
• Vehicle wheelbase needs to fit within the fender walls of the body.
• Vehicle track width is a maximum 11 inches.
• Vehicle battery must be mounted on the chassis. You cannot mount the battery above the steering servo/axle/upper links. The goal is to place the battery where it is not visible for a more scale appearance.
• Limited to 2.2 inch wheels or smaller, no tires larger than the Mashers/Moabs allowed. Cut and sectioned tires are allowed as long as they fit the 1.9 or 2.2 wheel.
• Vehicle must run a full approved body. Fenders may be cut, but it must resemble a 1:1 rig you'd see on the street. "Iffy" Vehicles must be approved by the other MTRCRC members.
• 2 wheel steering only
• Total tire/wheel (combo) weight must not exceed 6oz.

Suggested accessories:
• Winches
• Headlights & tail lights
• Sand ladders, Jerry cans, snorkel,
• Spare tires
• Tools, including shovels, Tamiya wrench, axe,
• Tow rope
• Snatch block
• Bumpers

Scale 4X4 Rules, printable version:
http://www.j2drc.rchomepage.com/SC4x4Rules.pdf

Please PM me or post up if you plan on attending and I will put you on the list for registration. List of clubs and or members who have expressed interest in attending as now.

MTRCRC
ORCRC
UTRCRC
Colorado guys
Idaho club
NORCALRC
Vegas Crawler's
WARCRC
SOCALRC
Few boys from up north in Canada


Registered RCC members:
Unimoger - 1.9 -2.2 - 2.2unltd
Slobin3d - 1.9 - 2.2 - 2.2unltd
MrBigStuff - 2.2 - 2.2unltd
DamageInc - 2.2 - 2.2unltd
MTwrench - 2.2 - 2.2unltd
Madscrambler - 1.9 - 2.2- 2.2unltd
Rok EJ - 2.2 - 2.2unltd
Crawldaddy - 1.9 - 2.2- 2.2unltd
Burrlytlt - 2.2 - 2.2unltd
Miniwheeler - 2.2 - 2.2unltd
Madhatter - 1.9 - 2.2 - 2.2unltd
solidaxleprerunner - 2.2 - 2.2unltd
Bronko 75 - 2.2 - 2.2unltd
Grover - 1.9 - 2.2 - 2.2 unltd
666 - 2.2 - 2.2unltd
double j - 2.2 - 2.2unltd
Metalhead - 2.2 - 2.2unltd
Grizzly4x4 - 2.2 - 2.2unltd
Racerx - 2.2 - 2.2unltd
Slem - 2.2 - 2.2unltd
Skeeter - 2.2 - 2.2unltd
dhhoncho -2.2 - 2.2 unltd
Bluemonster - 2.2 - 2,2unltd
Kaisersoze16 - 1.9 - 2.2 - 2.2unltd
Crawlit - 2.2 - 2.2unltd
Parker99 - 2.2 -2.2unltd
Pinchflat - 1.9 - 2.2 - 2.2unltd
Kaetwo - 1.9 - 2.2 - 2.2unltd
SpecialED - 1.9 - 2.2 - 2.2unltd
justgiveereh- 1.9 - 2.2 - 2.2unltd
NAZ-T - 1.9 - 2.2 - 2.2unltd
Blane - 2.2 - 2.2unltd
chbanshee - 2.2 - 2.2unltd
AGENDA :

Friday : 5/18/2007

9:00 am registration, sign in and tech

10:30 am comp starts

1.9 scale runs first
2.2 scale runs second

BBQ at unimoger's house after the comp, Bring what you want to grill and potluck style. Night runs for sure, If you have broken trucks, bring those too, we can wrench on them in the shop.


Saturday : 5/19/2007

9:00 am check in

10:30 am 2.2 / 1.9 scale finals

2.2 unlimited in the afternooon

BBQ at Unimogers house after the comp, raffle and awards presentation.


Sunday: 5/20/2007

Fun day, trail rides, folllow the leader, possibly run other locations? videos, supers run courses, whatever you want.






Big Thanks to JIA for the flyer and most of the content and rules needed for this event and Badger for the scale rules from Nor-Cal.

[microgoat]

Sounds like a blast. I'd catch hell for blowing off the wedding anniversary for it, though

[Unimoger]

Originally Posted by microgoat

Sounds like a blast. I'd catch hell for blowing off the wedding anniversary for it, though

bring her along, annv vacation

[Skippy]

who from co is going if I can catch a rid eI might get a rid togeather

[Unimoger]

Originally Posted by Skippy

who from co is going if I can catch a rid eI might get a rid togeather

people who have talked to me about it but have not registered yet are:

racerx
kris
grizzly4x4
wrecker

[666]

I am interested in going, so count me in!

[METALHEAD]

DUDE! This looks wiiiiiiiiiiicked awwwesome. I've never built a comp rig, but I've built and modded a ton of "other" rigs. Anyway, I'm all over this. I'm printing out this thread right now, taking the specs home, and jumping in feet first. Unimoger...If you can just tell me how to get to Helena from Great Falls, I should be able to make it ...ahahahahaha... Definately count me in.

[slobin3d]

, guess I need to get started on my new scale rig

[madscrambler]

Sounds good I will put it on the calander. So youre scale class can run tires size moab masher or smaller. utrcrc can only run hpi geolander smaller. Guess I will have 2 sets for the scale rig.

[Unimoger]

Originally Posted by madscrambler

Sounds good I will put it on the calander. So youre scale class can run tires size moab masher or smaller. utrcrc can only run hpi geolander smaller. Guess I will have 2 sets for the scale rig.

yes you can, but wheels and tires must match track width and wheelbase of the body.

[Skippy]

wut if I build a tube buggy but it looks scale

[Unimoger]

Originally Posted by Skippy

wut if I build a tube buggy but it looks scale

no complaints here, it will need a cockpit, panels, driver and all.

[raytard]

That does sound like FuN!
I'd like to go to this but that's the same weekend as S.E.R.C.R.C.'s Green River comp...

I can't miss that for my Wife, let alone another comp.

[slobin3d]

You can go to green river anytime when's the last time you can to Montana???

[JasonInAugusta]

Yup, stuff like this is totally fun.

I have more fun driving the scalers than anything else.

[Unimoger]

GUYS, if you plan to fly in, check Helena, then Bozeman, Missoula and Great Falls. Sometimes, the nearby towns have cheaper flights, they are each only about 100 miles away.
Flights are generally cheaper if you fly in on thurs and fly out on monday or tuesday.
I have connections with Enterprise rent-a-car because of my job also, so let me know if you need help arranging that too.
Also, if you need to ship your crawler's, PM me, I have a commercial address and can store it in my shop until the comp if you want.

[raytard]

Originally Posted by slobin3d

You can go to green river anytime when's the last time you can to Montana???

True!
But financially, I'd rather be able to make it to the Nat's (Hope to see y'all there)...!

&
I need to build a scaler too...

[miniwheeler]

Looks like me and burrly are prolly gonna make this one Its gonna be fun

[PinchFlat]

What exactly does "frame-railed chassis" mean?

[JasonInAugusta]

Bruiser, BB-51, K2 series, MFM, etc.

We didn't really enforce that rule down here too much. Just had fun.

We were adamant about not having batteries on the axles or suspension links.