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kevinlongisland · 03-12-2005, 08:22 PM

PARC Phoenix Arizona Rock Crawlers

Boulder Battle #4
Remote Control Rock Crawling Competition
Sunday, April 3rd, 2005
Phoenix, Arizona (Central Ave. Location)
9am

For Central Ave events: Take Central Avenue south into South Mountain Park. The road will veer to the west. After the gate house, make the first left. Then make your second right into the parking lot. The crawling spot is located next to the southeast corner of the parking lot. The comp starts at 10am.

All current info here:
http://www.thecrawlerstore.com/Events.html

Boulder Battle Rules
Tuesday, March 22, 2005
Modified RCCrawler Rule Book

Introduction:
Each competition consists of multiple stages, and each stage contains multiple gates. The lowest total score wins. The start order for the first stage is random. Thereafter, the lowest scoring driver starts first, second lowest second, etc. There is no pre-running of the courses. No courses will consist of obstacles that, to the best of the event organizers knowledge, anyone has prior experience on.

Classes:
Unlimited Class:
• No vehicle limitations except 1/10 size or larger bodies required.

2.2 Class:
• Maximum wheelbase 12.5”
• Tires must be 2.2 sized
• 1/10 scale bodies or larger required.

Rules:
1. Reverse = 1 point (any reverse at all, not 1 wheelbase length)

2. Cone = 10 points

3. Rollovers = 10 points. If you rolled and could drive out of it, no penalty. If you had to flip it back over manually, 10 points. You also have the option on any rollover you can drive out of to re-position where the rollover occurred or any point on the course behind the last point of forward motion. This will incur a 10 point penalty. No forward progress allowed when repositioning.

4. Falling off ledge/course or wheels jammed between rocks requiring reposition = 10 points. Vehicle can be repositioned anywhere behind the last point of forward motion. No forward progress allowed when repositioning. No reposition allowed unless wheels are jammed, vehicle fell off ledge, etc.

5. Boundary Marker offense = 10 points. If any part of the vehicle touches a boundary marker.

6. Time Violation = 5 points/minute over the designated time limit. Time limits will be approximately 2 minutes per gate.

7. Touch Penalty = 5 points. The vehicle may not be touched for any reason other than the specified conditions described in rules 4, 5, and 9.

8. Bonus Gates = 5-50 points. Bonus points will be awarded for successfully negotiating a bonus gate.

9. Max points per gate= 40 points. If a competitor reaches 40 points on a single gate, they must move their truck just past the pointed out gate and continue attempting the remainder of the course.

10. DNF = 40 points per gate not cleared. Example: On a 5 gate stage, if a competitor clears one gate, but cannot complete the remaining 4, a 160 point penalty will be applied.

11. Vehicle Breakage or Repair. Competitors can repair the vehicle where it lays without penalty, although time will not stop. For a 10 point penalty, the driver has the option to stop time and remove the vehicle from the course. Competition will continue. The driver can continue their attempt once repairs are made from the last cleared gate.

12. In case of a tie, the competitor with the fastest total time through all stages will win the tie.

WRMorrison · 03-12-2005, 09:36 PM

You know I'm there! With my 2.2 and hopefully my maxx hybrid as well!

Josh (unsure of your last name, we spoke briefly on the phone), make sure and show up, you'll have a ball!

SR5Dave · 03-17-2005, 03:36 PM

We're planning on:

Myself -clod
Paranoid56 -TLT? and Clod?
DoubleDub -TLT and Clod
DoubleDubs 2 sons are likely to go- TLT and an XF
A_vdk- clod
Maybe 4x4TransAm -XF

I think thats all I can think of right now.

kevinlongisland · 03-17-2005, 05:35 PM

cool dave, looks like we will have a good group this time. should be a blast.

WRMorrison · 03-17-2005, 05:46 PM

Yeah, looks like we'll have a pretty big group, that's cool! It's a good thing that it's about 2 weeks away, I just finished machining new cvd cups today for my maxx and didn't realize until I got home that I drilled the grub screw hole in the wrong place!

doh!

halfdoc · 03-17-2005, 10:00 PM

How long are you usually out there? I have something going on that day, but I may be able to make it out for a bit. I just need to know if I should aim early or if afternoon is possible.

David.
TSC-10

kevinlongisland · 03-17-2005, 11:00 PM

we are usually out there until 2 or 3. sometimes longer.

a_vdk · 03-18-2005, 08:43 PM

I will not be there, but for maybe a short amount of time in the morning. My TCS will hopefully be there competing with another driver.

grover · 03-18-2005, 09:39 PM

I plan on attending. I am anxious to see how my new shockless chassis will perform.

WRMorrison · 03-18-2005, 10:31 PM

I've got an off the wall request for all who plan on attending....

Would anybody object to it being a Saturday crawl instead of sunday? Reason being, one of the LHS's here is having their truck show/race/whatever that day and I'd like to take my crawlers up there and show off a bit. Maybe Kev and I can enter the side-by-side drag race against each other that way I'm not blown away by some kid's T-maxx...

. Besides, how many times do you get the chance to crawl over someone else's $2K show rig? If it's out of the question for some of the people who plan on attending, no problem, I'll just have to work them both into my Sunday schedule.

Just wondering

kevinlongisland · 03-22-2005, 04:02 PM

modified rules have been posted:

Boulder Battle Rules
Tuesday, March 22, 2005
Modified RCCrawler Rule Book

Introduction:
Each competition consists of multiple stages, and each stage contains multiple gates. The lowest total score wins. The start order for the first stage is random. Thereafter, the lowest scoring driver starts first, second lowest second, etc. There is no pre-running of the courses. No courses will consist of obstacles that, to the best of the event organizers knowledge, anyone has prior experience on.

Classes:
Unlimited Class:
• No vehicle limitations except 1/10 size or larger bodies required.
2.2 Class:
• Maximum wheelbase 12.5”
• Tires must be 2.2 sized
• 1/10 scale bodies or larger required.

Rules:
1. Reverse = 1 point (any reverse at all, not 1 wheelbase length)

2. Cone = 10 points

3. Rollovers = 10 points. If you rolled and could drive out of it, no penalty. If you had to flip it back over manually, 10 points. You also have the option on any rollover you can drive out of to re-position where the rollover occurred or any point on the course behind the last point of forward motion. This will incur a 10 point penalty. No forward progress allowed when repositioning.

4. Falling off ledge/course or wheels jammed between rocks requiring reposition = 10 points. Vehicle can be repositioned anywhere behind the last point of forward motion. No forward progress allowed when repositioning. No reposition allowed unless wheels are jammed, vehicle fell off ledge, etc.

5. Boundary Marker offense = 10 points. If any part of the vehicle touches a boundary marker.

6. Time Violation = 5 points/minute over the designated time limit. Time limits will be approximately 2 minutes per gate.

7. Touch Penalty = 5 points. The vehicle may not be touched for any reason other than the specified conditions described in rules 4, 5, and 9.

8. Bonus Gates = 5-50 points. Bonus points will be awarded for successfully negotiating a bonus gate.

9. Max points per gate= 40 points. If a competitor reaches 40 points on a single gate, they must move their truck just past the pointed out gate and continue attempting the remainder of the course.

10. DNF = 40 points per gate not cleared. Example: On a 5 gate stage, if a competitor clears one gate, but cannot complete the remaining 4, a 160 point penalty will be applied.

11. Vehicle Breakage or Repair. Competitors can repair the vehicle where it lays without penalty, although time will not stop. For a 10 point penalty, the driver has the option to stop time and remove the vehicle from the course. Competition will continue. The driver can continue their attempt once repairs are made from the last cleared gate.

12. In case of a tie, the competitor with the fastest total time through all stages will win the tie.

kevinlongisland · 03-26-2005, 08:51 PM

i'm thinking of adding two different types of stages to our events. what do you guys think?

a speed stage, where you still get all the same penalties except gate marker offences and boundary offences. but you get bonus points for going through quickest. I'm calling it an A to Z stage. who can get from point A to point Z quickest. this way there are slow technical stages that some like, and fast stages that are more exciting for the spectators. still working out the points structure for this.

we may also do a ROC (Race Of Champions) stage or two, where everyone uses the same truck. so for the most part, it's only the drivers skills that are being determined. let me know what you guys think of this.

SR5Dave · 03-26-2005, 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WRMorrison

I've got an off the wall request for all who plan on attending....

Would anybody object to it being a Saturday crawl instead of sunday? Reason being, one of the LHS's here is having their truck show/race/whatever that day and I'd like to take my crawlers up there and show off a bit. Maybe Kev and I can enter the side-by-side drag race against each other that way I'm not blown away by some kid's T-maxx...

. Besides, how many times do you get the chance to crawl over someone else's $2K show rig? If it's out of the question for some of the people who plan on attending, no problem, I'll just have to work them both into my Sunday schedule.

Just wondering

Northland Hobbies is open on Saturday, so that'd be a no go for Sean and his boys; and since i'm bumming a ride off them... Me as well

WRMorrison · 03-26-2005, 09:36 PM

That's ok, I'll just have to see how I can possibly juggle them. I'll def. make it to the BB though.

a_vdk · 03-26-2005, 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kevinlongisland

i'm thinking of adding two different types of stages to our events. what do you guys think?

a speed stage, where you still get all the same penalties except gate marker offences and boundary offences. but you get bonus points for going through quickest. I'm calling it an A to Z stage. who can get from point A to point Z quickest. this way there are slow technical stages that some like, and fast stages that are more exciting for the spectators. still working out the points structure for this.

we may also do a ROC (Race Of Champions) stage or two, where everyone uses the same truck. so for the most part, it's only the drivers skills that are being determined. let me know what you guys think of this.

Sounds cool. The more fun the better. Too bad I will not be there:( at least my truck will be

minitrucker · 03-29-2005, 01:14 PM

Well Im in. If it wasnt for kevin I would probably have missed out yet again. I come to have fun, I know my truck cant crawl like your trucks can but Im working on it. lol

fireman · 03-29-2005, 03:35 PM

I'm in, Me and the new truck will be ready.

kevinlongisland · 03-30-2005, 08:48 PM

anyone have a stop watch they can bring?

WRMorrison · 03-30-2005, 09:42 PM

I can bring an "egg timer"...

I'll steal it from my mom's house

kevinlongisland · 03-30-2005, 09:58 PM

unfortunately, an egg timer won't work. we need to be able to count minutes up. this way when a competitor gets past the time limit, we can still count how many minutes past the limit they went.

03-12-2005, 08:22 PM	#1
kevinlongisland The Wheels Keep Turning Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Phoenix, Arizona Posts: 2,831	April 3rd, Phoenix, AZ Boulder Battle 4 PARC Phoenix Arizona Rock Crawlers Boulder Battle #4 Remote Control Rock Crawling Competition Sunday, April 3rd, 2005 Phoenix, Arizona (Central Ave. Location) 9am For Central Ave events: Take Central Avenue south into South Mountain Park. The road will veer to the west. After the gate house, make the first left. Then make your second right into the parking lot. The crawling spot is located next to the southeast corner of the parking lot. The comp starts at 10am. All current info here: http://www.thecrawlerstore.com/Events.html Boulder Battle Rules Tuesday, March 22, 2005 Modified RCCrawler Rule Book Introduction: Each competition consists of multiple stages, and each stage contains multiple gates. The lowest total score wins. The start order for the first stage is random. Thereafter, the lowest scoring driver starts first, second lowest second, etc. There is no pre-running of the courses. No courses will consist of obstacles that, to the best of the event organizers knowledge, anyone has prior experience on. Classes: Unlimited Class: • No vehicle limitations except 1/10 size or larger bodies required. 2.2 Class: • Maximum wheelbase 12.5” • Tires must be 2.2 sized • 1/10 scale bodies or larger required. Rules: 1. Reverse = 1 point (any reverse at all, not 1 wheelbase length) 2. Cone = 10 points 3. Rollovers = 10 points. If you rolled and could drive out of it, no penalty. If you had to flip it back over manually, 10 points. You also have the option on any rollover you can drive out of to re-position where the rollover occurred or any point on the course behind the last point of forward motion. This will incur a 10 point penalty. No forward progress allowed when repositioning. 4. Falling off ledge/course or wheels jammed between rocks requiring reposition = 10 points. Vehicle can be repositioned anywhere behind the last point of forward motion. No forward progress allowed when repositioning. No reposition allowed unless wheels are jammed, vehicle fell off ledge, etc. 5. Boundary Marker offense = 10 points. If any part of the vehicle touches a boundary marker. 6. Time Violation = 5 points/minute over the designated time limit. Time limits will be approximately 2 minutes per gate. 7. Touch Penalty = 5 points. The vehicle may not be touched for any reason other than the specified conditions described in rules 4, 5, and 9. 8. Bonus Gates = 5-50 points. Bonus points will be awarded for successfully negotiating a bonus gate. 9. Max points per gate= 40 points. If a competitor reaches 40 points on a single gate, they must move their truck just past the pointed out gate and continue attempting the remainder of the course. 10. DNF = 40 points per gate not cleared. Example: On a 5 gate stage, if a competitor clears one gate, but cannot complete the remaining 4, a 160 point penalty will be applied. 11. Vehicle Breakage or Repair. Competitors can repair the vehicle where it lays without penalty, although time will not stop. For a 10 point penalty, the driver has the option to stop time and remove the vehicle from the course. Competition will continue. The driver can continue their attempt once repairs are made from the last cleared gate. 12. In case of a tie, the competitor with the fastest total time through all stages will win the tie. Last edited by kevinlongisland; 03-30-2005 at 08:49 PM.

03-22-2005, 04:02 PM	#11
kevinlongisland The Wheels Keep Turning Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Phoenix, Arizona Posts: 2,831	modified rules have been posted: Boulder Battle Rules Tuesday, March 22, 2005 Modified RCCrawler Rule Book Introduction: Each competition consists of multiple stages, and each stage contains multiple gates. The lowest total score wins. The start order for the first stage is random. Thereafter, the lowest scoring driver starts first, second lowest second, etc. There is no pre-running of the courses. No courses will consist of obstacles that, to the best of the event organizers knowledge, anyone has prior experience on. Classes: Unlimited Class: • No vehicle limitations except 1/10 size or larger bodies required. 2.2 Class: • Maximum wheelbase 12.5” • Tires must be 2.2 sized • 1/10 scale bodies or larger required. Rules: 1. Reverse = 1 point (any reverse at all, not 1 wheelbase length) 2. Cone = 10 points 3. Rollovers = 10 points. If you rolled and could drive out of it, no penalty. If you had to flip it back over manually, 10 points. You also have the option on any rollover you can drive out of to re-position where the rollover occurred or any point on the course behind the last point of forward motion. This will incur a 10 point penalty. No forward progress allowed when repositioning. 4. Falling off ledge/course or wheels jammed between rocks requiring reposition = 10 points. Vehicle can be repositioned anywhere behind the last point of forward motion. No forward progress allowed when repositioning. No reposition allowed unless wheels are jammed, vehicle fell off ledge, etc. 5. Boundary Marker offense = 10 points. If any part of the vehicle touches a boundary marker. 6. Time Violation = 5 points/minute over the designated time limit. Time limits will be approximately 2 minutes per gate. 7. Touch Penalty = 5 points. The vehicle may not be touched for any reason other than the specified conditions described in rules 4, 5, and 9. 8. Bonus Gates = 5-50 points. Bonus points will be awarded for successfully negotiating a bonus gate. 9. Max points per gate= 40 points. If a competitor reaches 40 points on a single gate, they must move their truck just past the pointed out gate and continue attempting the remainder of the course. 10. DNF = 40 points per gate not cleared. Example: On a 5 gate stage, if a competitor clears one gate, but cannot complete the remaining 4, a 160 point penalty will be applied. 11. Vehicle Breakage or Repair. Competitors can repair the vehicle where it lays without penalty, although time will not stop. For a 10 point penalty, the driver has the option to stop time and remove the vehicle from the course. Competition will continue. The driver can continue their attempt once repairs are made from the last cleared gate. 12. In case of a tie, the competitor with the fastest total time through all stages will win the tie. Last edited by kevinlongisland; 03-22-2005 at 04:10 PM.

03-12-2005, 09:36 PM	#2
WRMorrison Rock Crawler Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Land of the Free, because of the Brave Posts: 891	You know I'm there! With my 2.2 and hopefully my maxx hybrid as well! Josh (unsure of your last name, we spoke briefly on the phone), make sure and show up, you'll have a ball!

03-17-2005, 03:36 PM	#3
SR5Dave I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Flagstaff, AZ Posts: 2,399	We're planning on: Myself -clod Paranoid56 -TLT? and Clod? DoubleDub -TLT and Clod DoubleDubs 2 sons are likely to go- TLT and an XF A_vdk- clod Maybe 4x4TransAm -XF I think thats all I can think of right now.

03-17-2005, 05:35 PM	#4
kevinlongisland The Wheels Keep Turning Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Phoenix, Arizona Posts: 2,831	cool dave, looks like we will have a good group this time. should be a blast.

03-17-2005, 05:46 PM	#5
WRMorrison Rock Crawler Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Land of the Free, because of the Brave Posts: 891	Yeah, looks like we'll have a pretty big group, that's cool! It's a good thing that it's about 2 weeks away, I just finished machining new cvd cups today for my maxx and didn't realize until I got home that I drilled the grub screw hole in the wrong place! doh!

03-17-2005, 10:00 PM	#6
halfdoc Newbie Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7	How long are you usually out there? I have something going on that day, but I may be able to make it out for a bit. I just need to know if I should aim early or if afternoon is possible. David. TSC-10

03-17-2005, 11:00 PM	#7
kevinlongisland The Wheels Keep Turning Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Phoenix, Arizona Posts: 2,831	we are usually out there until 2 or 3. sometimes longer.

03-18-2005, 08:43 PM	#8
a_vdk Pebble Pounder Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Watching U Sleep Posts: 156	I will not be there, but for maybe a short amount of time in the morning. My TCS will hopefully be there competing with another driver.

03-18-2005, 09:39 PM	#9
grover Rock Crawler Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Tumwater Posts: 910	I plan on attending. I am anxious to see how my new shockless chassis will perform.

03-18-2005, 10:31 PM	#10
WRMorrison Rock Crawler Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Land of the Free, because of the Brave Posts: 891	I've got an off the wall request for all who plan on attending.... Would anybody object to it being a Saturday crawl instead of sunday? Reason being, one of the LHS's here is having their truck show/race/whatever that day and I'd like to take my crawlers up there and show off a bit. Maybe Kev and I can enter the side-by-side drag race against each other that way I'm not blown away by some kid's T-maxx... . Besides, how many times do you get the chance to crawl over someone else's $2K show rig? If it's out of the question for some of the people who plan on attending, no problem, I'll just have to work them both into my Sunday schedule. Just wondering

03-26-2005, 08:51 PM	#12
kevinlongisland The Wheels Keep Turning Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Phoenix, Arizona Posts: 2,831	i'm thinking of adding two different types of stages to our events. what do you guys think? a speed stage, where you still get all the same penalties except gate marker offences and boundary offences. but you get bonus points for going through quickest. I'm calling it an A to Z stage. who can get from point A to point Z quickest. this way there are slow technical stages that some like, and fast stages that are more exciting for the spectators. still working out the points structure for this. we may also do a ROC (Race Of Champions) stage or two, where everyone uses the same truck. so for the most part, it's only the drivers skills that are being determined. let me know what you guys think of this.

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03-26-2005, 09:36 PM	#14
WRMorrison Rock Crawler Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Land of the Free, because of the Brave Posts: 891	That's ok, I'll just have to see how I can possibly juggle them. I'll def. make it to the BB though.

03-29-2005, 01:14 PM	#16
minitrucker Pebble Pounder Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Phoenix Posts: 139	Well Im in. If it wasnt for kevin I would probably have missed out yet again. I come to have fun, I know my truck cant crawl like your trucks can but Im working on it. lol

03-29-2005, 03:35 PM	#17
fireman Pebble Pounder Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Mesa Posts: 164	I'm in, Me and the new truck will be ready.

03-30-2005, 08:48 PM	#18
kevinlongisland The Wheels Keep Turning Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Phoenix, Arizona Posts: 2,831	anyone have a stop watch they can bring?

03-30-2005, 09:42 PM	#19
WRMorrison Rock Crawler Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Land of the Free, because of the Brave Posts: 891	I can bring an "egg timer"... I'll steal it from my mom's house

03-30-2005, 09:58 PM	#20
kevinlongisland The Wheels Keep Turning Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Phoenix, Arizona Posts: 2,831	unfortunately, an egg timer won't work. we need to be able to count minutes up. this way when a competitor gets past the time limit, we can still count how many minutes past the limit they went.

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