*_* C.I.'s Double Deuce Closed Cell Competition Ready Dual Stage Foams *_*

[HARDKNOCKZ]

Originally Posted by stelerzman

Hey guy's, I need your wisdom. I just got my Voodoo's in, silver and blue compounds. I already have a set of 4 DD close cell in 5.25". I think soft and med. My rig is around 4.5 lbs with 1" VP v5 repun slw's and I would like to know what do you recommend to fill the tire.

Thanks for your help.

Im still playing with the foams on my pro rig but in my sporty thats sotting at 4lbs even RTR I settled on the 6.0 DDs...narrow inners with soft outers up front, mediums out back with the tuning ring removed ONLY in the rear. I know some are removing em both but I didnt like how much wad factor came with that.

JD

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Szczerba in 3...2...1

[Nova's Ark]

Originally Posted by stelerzman

Hey guy's, I need your wisdom. I just got my Voodoo's in, silver and blue compounds. I already have a set of 4 DD close cell in 5.25". I think soft and med. My rig is around 4.5 lbs with 1" VP v5 repun slw's and I would like to know what do you recommend to fill the tire.

Thanks for your help.

The 5.25 Double Deuce is not gonna cut it in any VooDoo compound. The 5.25" inner is just too short.

#1. The VooDoo is a 5.75" tall tire.

#2. The VooDoo is a thin carcass tire. (Which is a great design)

Because of those 2 reasons, the voodoo needs a minimum of a 5.5 inner to start with for light weight trucks.

I have only tested with the Gold Compound (which is a phenomenal compound for East Texas), but when I did I used:

Here is a video compilation of the Crawler Innovations XR-10 testing the
Ottsix VooDoo Tire in the Gold Compound
w/ Crawler Innovations 6.0 Double Deuce Foams.

As tested,
the crawler weighed 5 pounds 1 ounce RTR,
the bead locks are 1.35' VP SLW's,
6.0 Double Deuce Foams;
Wide Inner - Soft Outer = Front; (No Tuning Ring)
Wide Inner - Medium Outer narrowed 2" width = Rear. (No Tuning Ring)

Filmed at the Crawler Innovations Compound in Tyler, Texas.

I have not tested or felt the silver or blue compound yet. But based on the characteristics and the size of the gold tire, you need a bigger foam to fill the tire. It may also be better to start with a firmer foam combination because it is easier to modify the foam to be softer. It's much harder to firm up soft foam inside soft tires. The Voodoo is a soft tire, no doubt about it.

[crawl-o-matic]

I've run 5.25 DD with tuning rings with blues...not great, but not too bad either. I think on the right rock, that setup would work well.

[stelerzman]

Thanks for the info guys, is there any way I can buy just the outer foams and use the inners I already have?

[Szczerba]

Originally Posted by stelerzman

Thanks for the info guys, is there any way I can buy just the outer foams and use the inners I already have?

Yep. "Foam Parts" on the site. Foam Parts


There are a lot of set-ups out there that are working. Most are 5.5 or 6" inners and the outers are going to depend on tire compound and rig weight. So testing is will be needed with each rig and driver style.

[Nova's Ark]

Originally Posted by stelerzman

Thanks for the info guys, is there any way I can buy just the outer foams and use the inners I already have?

IMO, you need a taller inner. If you already own 5.0/5.25 outer foams, they will stretch over the 5.5 inner.


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[crawl-o-matic]

Originally Posted by Nova's Ark

IMO, you need a taller inner. If you already own 5.0/5.25 outer foams, they will stretch over the 5.5 inner.


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100% agree

[Nova's Ark]

Short 1 battery pack video of the Cut N Shut Voodoo's:

Video #2 in what I am sure will become a series of videos based on the Ottsix Voodoo 2.2 RC COMPETITION rock crawler tire. This video features the Gold Compound Voodoo tire, except it has been cut n shut by Crawler Innovations. The tire has been reduced in height to 5.40". The Tire has also been narrowed in width to 1.75". The purpose for these modifications is to make the Voodoo shorter in height to improve side hill capability and to lower the Center of Gravity. The purpose for narrowing is to keep the tires out of the suspension at full steering to prevent the tire from be ripped or torn. Foams used in this video: C.I. Double Deuce 5.5 Narrow Inner with 5.0/5.25 Soft Outer in the front, and C.I. Double Deuce 5.25 with 5.0/5.25 Medium Outer. The wheels are 1" wide carbon fiber glue on style and made by Y Town Crawlers. Y Town Crawlers also makes the Secret Agent carbon fiber chassis as well.

This video shows many of the same lines used and films in past videos. I use the same lines over and over to gauge the pros & cons of every set up change. The Gold compound Voodoo slows crawls sandstone and iron ore like no tire I have tested before. In this video you can see areas where wheel speed produced tire spin, but slow it down and the tire grabs and goes. This compound seems extremely stable on the rocks at the Crawler Innovations Compound in East Texas. I will be testing with the Silver and Blue compounds once C.I. can obtain them. C.I. also plans to add these to our web site combined with C.I. Double Deuce foams.

[stelerzman]

Originally Posted by Nova's Ark

IMO, you need a taller inner. If you already own 5.0/5.25 outer foams, they will stretch over the 5.5 inner.


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Damn, I think I ordered the wrong thing. I ordered 5.5/6.0 outer foams. Will this work?
Thanks.

[Nova's Ark]

Originally Posted by stelerzman

Damn, I think I ordered the wrong thing. I ordered 5.5/6.0 outer foams. Will this work?
Thanks.

I have your order John, but the echeck hasn't cleared yet through PayPal. You ordered outers and you need inners. I will send you the correct inners instead. Thank you for your business and thank you for posting your tech questions. Not only did we catch the order mistake, but I am sure someone else will benefit from the reading. The Voodoo tire is going to require a bit more foam tuning than your average tire.

[stelerzman]

Thank you for correcting me, I didn't mean to echeck my order.

[stelerzman]

So what your saying is the inner foam is the crucial part of the foam equation?
That's just the opposite I was thinking. Wow, now I stretched the outer foam I see what your saying. Thanks again for the help.

[TCCustoms]

Just got my 6" CI DD foams for my gold dot voodoo's(still waiting for them to ship) and these foams are crazy awesome and am stoked to get these all set-up and running....

[AddictedtoRC1]

Hey Eddie do you have an ETA on 6.0" Double Deuce foams? Looks they are selling well.

[Nova's Ark]

Originally Posted by AddictedtoRC1

Hey Eddie do you have an ETA on 6.0" Double Deuce foams? Looks they are selling well.

July 1st

I'm out of the 6.0 and 5.25 Double Deuce sizes.

[AddictedtoRC1]

Originally Posted by Nova's Ark

July 1st

I'm out of the 6.0 and 5.25 Double Deuce sizes.

Thank you good sir. I'll check back with you that week sometime.

[losiking1]

Well i placed an order last night and already been shipped!!! Great service and thanks very much

Mark

[goingnorth]

Newbee needs help picking new foams, I bought these tires and wheels used, 2.2 Losi rock claws 5", the rr foams seam to be a little firmer than the stock 1.9 trepedors and are brown and look old, looks like regular foam. The fronts are not the same, the passenger side is white and just crushes with no rebound and the drivers side is brown and was for a 5.5" and I cut it down to try to match the ps's softness. I was thinking of using the double deuce 5" medium for the front but have no idea what firmness I have. Then I may swap them to the rears as well depending on if I end up to firm for the front.
The wheels are vented, 2 holes each.

What do you recomend? SCX10 Rubicon is stock RTR, battery moved to the front, 4 link front all plastic links. Back yard fun only, no comp.

[Nova's Ark]

Originally Posted by goingnorth

What do you recomend? SCX10 Rubicon is stock RTR, battery moved to the front, 4 link front all plastic links. Back yard fun only, no comp.

Since you bought the items used, you have no idea what you actually own.

RTR weight is preferred, but since you don't know it, I'll guess 6 pounds.

The 5.0 Double Deuce will fill the tire, but the 5.25 Double Deuce might be better because it's a scaler and you'll probably add more weight as you add more scale accessories.

Soft outer front
Medium outer rear