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cartronicshn · 08-28-2008, 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnRobHolmes

Yep, got them in. I just need to hack a few tubes off the frame so I can put lower shocks on there. Will do after breakfast.

That has been a looong breakfast....

Tupers · 08-28-2008, 01:56 PM

Looking good I can;t wait to see it complete with the tube chassis. I've just ordered the Yokomo crawler so I might have to try those cobalt motors. Can you tell me what turn rating they are?

Mike Poulson · 09-02-2008, 10:03 PM

What are you using for pinions on your motors John?

Mike

cartronicshn · 09-04-2008, 09:05 AM

Same question as mike's here, i received the motors today and the cc pinions don't fit, smaller diameter shaft, are these 48 pitch standard? i know the pinions i have for the tlt and other rigs i have fit the 454's shaft.

JohnRobHolmes · 09-04-2008, 09:49 AM

I am using the stock pinions from the berg. It is listed on the 454 page, first line--

**For Cliff Climber use the stock Berg pinions work (mod 0.6). Stock Cliff Climber motors use 2.3mm bore mod 0.6 pinions**

These also work http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXFEA5&P=7

cartronicshn · 09-04-2008, 10:36 AM

Yeah that's what i figured, i drilled out the stock ones (let's see how long they last) while i get some pinions.

JohnRobHolmes · 09-04-2008, 10:37 AM

Should work just fine. I got the truck all running, just no time to take pics yet. I am hustling to get ready for Moab.

salgon · 09-20-2008, 09:54 AM

Hi John, did tried the pullers with the stock ESC? And wath did you do with the battery cables that you said you use just one battery pack on the stock ESC? How you do it?

semble · 09-28-2008, 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnRobHolmes

It didn't work as per the instructions, so I used the white wire and it worked. I was kinda stumped, and I need to call Castle about it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kulangflow

I had the exact same thing happen with mine and used the same solution. I called Castle and they were stumped as well. I'm guessing they just had an odd batch that came out.

I just had the same issue. Did you ever get any word from castle on this?

JohnRobHolmes · 09-28-2008, 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by salgon

Hi John, did tried the pullers with the stock ESC? And wath did you do with the battery cables that you said you use just one battery pack on the stock ESC? How you do it?

On the stock ESC, the "b2" positive and negative power the BEC, so use those and you can have just one pack to run. You need to short the B1 wires to get power to the motor. The stock ESC does not run the pullers.

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Originally Posted by semble

I just had the same issue. Did you ever get any word from castle on this?

It is a bug in the firmware, they may not fix it and just update the manuals instead.

sweli · 09-30-2008, 10:48 AM

John, I eventually want 454's, but cannot swing them now, so I am going to volt up and gear down a little to play with this CC(couch climber for me).
I found 8-10T 48P 2.3mm pinions.
I do not know heli's, so I am not sure I understand the 0.4/0.5/0.6 Mod verbage??

What pinions specs are for the stock 380's? 2.3mm shaft. 48P?

What about the Integy 1/18 pinion sets
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXKWJ2&P=7
I believe they are for 2mm, but could be bored out easily enough (using two drills).

JohnRobHolmes · 09-30-2008, 04:24 PM

The stock pinions on the CC are 2.3mm bore .6 mod. 48p is not the same.

jdawg53 · 10-03-2008, 10:18 AM

Sweli
You will not be able to use 8-10t pinions on the CC. I suggest you add weight to the front to help get more front traction. The stall occurs because it wants to send power to the path of least resistance......so if your front wheels are in the air or not grabbing, it will send more power to the front.
You can add weight to the front wheels, mount one of the batteries on top of the front steering servo. Just a few examples.
Hope this helps till you can get the 454's. They are awesome motors.
J

randy1 · 10-14-2008, 12:10 AM

is the stall caused by the stock esc

sweli · 10-14-2008, 07:23 AM

Jdawg53,

Why won't I be able to run 8 or 9T? Is the diameter of the 8 or 9T pinions too small, so I will not get enough motor mount adjustment to mesh well?

What about T-400 for $8.99 at Tower? I cannot find specific specs, but supposed to have more power (higher wind count) then the S-400.

BTW, my setup is a LOT different then stock.
BMV Style Cliff Climber

Could not get the stock tires off of the stock rims, even with HIGH heat?
So for right now, lead is around inside edge of rim in front.
Batts in back to clear front steering.

thx!

jdawg53 · 10-14-2008, 09:03 AM

Stall is not "caused" by the esc. It is caused by the current flowing through the path of least resistance. If the front wheels are in the air or not grabbing then the front is the path with least resistance. So, put one of the batteries on the front steering servo and weight the front wheels. This helps ALOT!
J

jdawg53 · 10-14-2008, 09:09 AM

Sweli
You cannot use 8 & 9 tooth pinions because the motor mounts do not allow that much adjustability.

I have not tried our T-400 motor. Typically, the airplane motors focus on rpm not torque. I try to order a couple up and try them.

I know what you are saying about the tire glue. It is goooood!

J

randy1 · 11-20-2008, 12:24 PM

hey john where has your lil truck gone.i was wondering if you had tried the 370 motor in your cc . dose it have the balls to do it. atomic has the pinions for the smaller shaft

pmikeyg · 12-03-2008, 10:51 PM

Whats the easiest way to jump the 2 pins to run the single pack? I was gonna use a jumper pin like on a computer....it should work.

HardcoreTJ · 02-24-2009, 03:25 PM

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXEW96&P=7

Will this pinion work for the CC with the 454's???

09-20-2008, 09:54 AM	#48
salgon Newbie Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Pharr Posts: 38	Esc Hi John, did tried the pullers with the stock ESC? And wath did you do with the battery cables that you said you use just one battery pack on the stock ESC? How you do it?

08-28-2008, 01:56 PM	#42
Tupers Rock Crawler Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Great Britain Posts: 935	Looking good I can;t wait to see it complete with the tube chassis. I've just ordered the Yokomo crawler so I might have to try those cobalt motors. Can you tell me what turn rating they are?

09-02-2008, 10:03 PM	#43
Mike Poulson Quarry Creeper Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: SLC Posts: 382	What are you using for pinions on your motors John? Mike

09-04-2008, 09:05 AM	#44
cartronicshn I wanna be Dave Join Date: May 2006 Location: HONDURAS...ROCK HEAVEN Posts: 5,076	Same question as mike's here, i received the motors today and the cc pinions don't fit, smaller diameter shaft, are these 48 pitch standard? i know the pinions i have for the tlt and other rigs i have fit the 454's shaft.

09-04-2008, 09:49 AM	#45
JohnRobHolmes owner, Holmes Hobbies LLC Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Volt up! Gear down! Posts: 20,290	I am using the stock pinions from the berg. It is listed on the 454 page, first line-- For Cliff Climber use the stock Berg pinions work (mod 0.6). Stock Cliff Climber motors use 2.3mm bore mod 0.6 pinions These also work http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXFEA5&P=7

09-04-2008, 10:36 AM	#46
cartronicshn I wanna be Dave Join Date: May 2006 Location: HONDURAS...ROCK HEAVEN Posts: 5,076	Yeah that's what i figured, i drilled out the stock ones (let's see how long they last) while i get some pinions.

09-04-2008, 10:37 AM	#47
JohnRobHolmes owner, Holmes Hobbies LLC Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Volt up! Gear down! Posts: 20,290	Should work just fine. I got the truck all running, just no time to take pics yet. I am hustling to get ready for Moab.

09-30-2008, 10:48 AM	#51
sweli RCC Addict Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Lake Michigan Posts: 1,898	John, I eventually want 454's, but cannot swing them now, so I am going to volt up and gear down a little to play with this CC(couch climber for me). I found 8-10T 48P 2.3mm pinions. I do not know heli's, so I am not sure I understand the 0.4/0.5/0.6 Mod verbage?? What pinions specs are for the stock 380's? 2.3mm shaft. 48P? What about the Integy 1/18 pinion sets http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXKWJ2&P=7 I believe they are for 2mm, but could be bored out easily enough (using two drills).

09-30-2008, 04:24 PM	#52
JohnRobHolmes owner, Holmes Hobbies LLC Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Volt up! Gear down! Posts: 20,290	The stock pinions on the CC are 2.3mm bore .6 mod. 48p is not the same.

10-03-2008, 10:18 AM	#53
jdawg53 Rock Crawler Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 809	Sweli You will not be able to use 8-10t pinions on the CC. I suggest you add weight to the front to help get more front traction. The stall occurs because it wants to send power to the path of least resistance......so if your front wheels are in the air or not grabbing, it will send more power to the front. You can add weight to the front wheels, mount one of the batteries on top of the front steering servo. Just a few examples. Hope this helps till you can get the 454's. They are awesome motors. J

10-14-2008, 12:10 AM	#54
randy1 Pebble Pounder Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: usa Posts: 168	is the stall caused by the stock esc

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10-14-2008, 07:23 AM	#55
sweli RCC Addict Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Lake Michigan Posts: 1,898	Jdawg53, Why won't I be able to run 8 or 9T? Is the diameter of the 8 or 9T pinions too small, so I will not get enough motor mount adjustment to mesh well? What about T-400 for $8.99 at Tower? I cannot find specific specs, but supposed to have more power (higher wind count) then the S-400. BTW, my setup is a LOT different then stock. BMV Style Cliff Climber Could not get the stock tires off of the stock rims, even with HIGH heat? So for right now, lead is around inside edge of rim in front. Batts in back to clear front steering. thx!

10-14-2008, 09:03 AM	#56
jdawg53 Rock Crawler Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 809	Stall is not "caused" by the esc. It is caused by the current flowing through the path of least resistance. If the front wheels are in the air or not grabbing then the front is the path with least resistance. So, put one of the batteries on the front steering servo and weight the front wheels. This helps ALOT! J

10-14-2008, 09:09 AM	#57
jdawg53 Rock Crawler Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 809	Sweli You cannot use 8 & 9 tooth pinions because the motor mounts do not allow that much adjustability. I have not tried our T-400 motor. Typically, the airplane motors focus on rpm not torque. I try to order a couple up and try them. I know what you are saying about the tire glue. It is goooood! J

11-20-2008, 12:24 PM	#58
randy1 Pebble Pounder Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: usa Posts: 168	hey john where has your lil truck gone.i was wondering if you had tried the 370 motor in your cc . dose it have the balls to do it. atomic has the pinions for the smaller shaft

12-03-2008, 10:51 PM	#59
pmikeyg Rock Stacker Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Dover, De Posts: 63	Whats the easiest way to jump the 2 pins to run the single pack? I was gonna use a jumper pin like on a computer....it should work.

02-24-2009, 03:25 PM	#60
HardcoreTJ Rock Stacker Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Athens, GA / Alma, CO Posts: 54	http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXEW96&P=7 Will this pinion work for the CC with the 454's???

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