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Old 08-25-2008, 11:50 PM   #21
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Thanks. For some reason, I don't think I'll be running Losi tires. VVVV
1.9 panthers??? maybe? just a wild guess. ...or is it...lol
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Looking good so far. Good job for being the first to swap out the chassis. Those bottom links seem a bit flimsy =P. Your solution for the top link mounts looks good. Seems unfortunate that the factory locations could not be used. I wonder how are you going to do the rear if its just going to be 2ws?
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1.9 panthers??? maybe? just a wild guess. ...or is it...lol
Or something like that.

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Looking good so far. Good job for being the first to swap out the chassis. Those bottom links seem a bit flimsy =P. Your solution for the top link mounts looks good. Seems unfortunate that the factory locations could not be used. I wonder how are you going to do the rear if its just going to be 2ws?
Yeah, the lower links will get sleeved or replaced, this is all in mock up at the moment. The upper link mount should work well, 's it located similarly to other MDA designs link mounts. I will use lock out in the rear as our 10.5 class will be 2WS w/ no dig.
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Thanks. For some reason, I don't think I'll be running Losi tires. VVVV
is because your a panther team driver ? or is it a can of worms not worth opening ?? ;)
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I think these upper link mounts are the ones Yotachump sells under axials 'billet rear upper link mount', nice units indeed.

This really shows how small the zero really is, getting temting to build a 2.2 motor axled rig again
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is because your a panther team driver ? or is it a can of worms not worth opening ?? ;)
Because I drive for Panther.

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I think these upper link mounts are the ones Yotachump sells under axials 'billet rear upper link mount', nice units indeed.

This really shows how small the zero really is, getting temting to build a 2.2 motor axled rig again
Thanks for the info, I won it several months ago and just had it sitting on the work bench. I'll see if I can order another.
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Because I drive for Panther.

reduce some panthers down
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Well I'm finished mocking up the CCZ for the most part. Still waiting on a set of Axial stub axles so I can narrow the rear up, and I haven't decided what to do for tires just yet. I do have a few ideas, so I'll have to see what I can come up w/. For now the stock CC tires and wheels will work.

Here it is all mocked up.







Wheel base is at 11 inches, so I'll need to shorten up the finished links about a 1/4 inch each to hit my 10 1/2 wheel base target. Other than ordering the Axial stub axles and a Waypoint servo from Holmes Hobbies, I'm still using parts from the parts bin. I made the rear lock out from some left over Axial rod ends.







So now I'll tear it down and do the final build, mount the remaining electronics, mount a body, and so on.

Hope to have more progress soon.

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i like it. think the belly is gonna remain that high ?
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Nice rig, you gonna have droop or leave it that high? Also i think some Holmes mini pullers would fit nice into that
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i like it. think the belly is gonna remain that high ?
It will sit a bit lower when it's finished. Right now it has about 3 1/2 inches of center chassis clearance. When it's finished it will be around 3 inches.

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Nice rig, you gonna have droop or leave it that high? Also i think some Holmes mini pullers would fit nice into that
It sits at the same height as the stock CC? The mini pullers are in the future, waiting to upgrade to the metal gears first. No sense installing the pullers and then killing the stock gears.
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It will sit a bit lower when it's finished. Right now it has about 3 1/2 inches of center chassis clearance. When it's finished it will be around 3 inches.



It sits at the same height as the stock CC? The mini pullers are in the future, waiting to upgrade to the metal gears first. No sense installing the pullers and then killing the stock gears.
Huh, it must just look high then Smart idea on them gears, puller + plastic = fail
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Can you connect the lower links to the shock mount on the axle? To level them, and move them above the axle, like on a clod? Seems like you could gain a great deal of clearance that way.

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Can you connect the lower links to the shock mount on the axle? To level them, and move them above the axle, like on a clod? Seems like you could gain a great deal of clearance that way.

That's a good idea. I can use the stock upper link location to mount the lower link to.

Why didn't I think of that!

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That's a good idea. I can use the stock upper link location to mount the lower link to.

Why didn't I think of that!

Thanks!
doh! right now it looks like an old school clod with the links like that. Like a gecko or something z It is looking very much improved though. Does panther have plans for 1.9's? or do you not know? or are you just not allowed to talk about it? haha. I know there is going to be some itching for some comp worthy 1.9's with the release of this and the losi mini crawler.

p.s. I don't see the big fuss about the height of the chassis. Its not like it has a tranny and motor on it! With the lower links leveled out a bit (hc or move the axle end of the links up) it should be looking fine.

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doh! right now it looks like an old school clod with the links like that. Like a gecko or something z It is looking very much improved though. Does panther have plans for 1.9's? or do you not know? or are you just not allowed to talk about it? haha. I know there is going to be some itching for some comp worthy 1.9's with the release of this and the losi mini crawler.

p.s. I don't see the big fuss about the height of the chassis. Its not like it has a tranny and motor on it! With the lower links leveled out a bit (hc or move the axle end of the links up) it should be looking fine.
It's basically a mini Clod now.

I'm playing w/ some Panther tires for it, can't say whether or not Panther will be releasing anything in the 1.9 size range, although I agree that there will be an increased demand for comp quality 1.9s w/ the release of the Losi mini Crawler.

I think it looks taller than most people are used to seeing after looking at the 2.2 shafties.

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Can you connect the lower links to the shock mount on the axle? To level them, and move them above the axle, like on a clod? Seems like you could gain a great deal of clearance that way.

wouldn't that cause a place to get hung up on the rear axle ? for example, with the lower links running down to the bottom of the axles what ever the links are sliding across the axles are in line so they kind of hop over the obstacle also. if the links were up higher and not in line with the bottom links i would think that would create a notch for the axle to get hung up on ??

idk...i should prolly stop thinking.
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wouldn't that cause a place to get hung up on the rear axle ? for example, with the lower links running down to the bottom of the axles what ever the links are sliding across the axles are in line so they kind of hop over the obstacle also. if the links were up higher and not in line with the bottom links i would think that would create a notch for the axle to get hung up on ??

idk...i should prolly stop thinking.
It might, until I get it all set up it's hard to say.

The beauty of being the first to try it.
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wouldn't that cause a place to get hung up on the rear axle ? for example, with the lower links running down to the bottom of the axles what ever the links are sliding across the axles are in line so they kind of hop over the obstacle also. if the links were up higher and not in line with the bottom links i would think that would create a notch for the axle to get hung up on ??

idk...i should prolly stop thinking.

The tires should help fill that notch. It has worked great like that on clods for years. But, in your defence, the tires Dez may run may be so small that your point could become an issue. Your same argument could be used against high clearance bent links, yet they have seen great success also. I guess as always, it is give and take.
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The tires should help fill that notch. It has worked great like that on clods for years. But, in your defence, the tires Dez may run may be so small that your point could become an issue. Your same argument could be used against high clearance bent links, yet they have seen great success also. I guess as always, it is give and take.
That's my thinking as well. The tires I'm looking to use are in the 4 1/2 inch range, so they should be ok.

I think it will work fine. If it doesn't, then more changes! That's the fun part.

RTR.......Pffft, I prefer this kind of a build!
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