Class

[ebbet]

What is the cc labeled as. Like a 2.2 or a 1.9 or what??

[666]

Since it has 2.2 wheels I would guess 2.2!

[dezfan]

What if you put 1.9 wheels on it?

[666]

Originally Posted by dezfan

What if you put 1.9 wheels on it?

Then it would have 1.9 wheels on it!!

[dezfan]

And then.............

[666]

Well lets take a few minutes to read some USRCCA rules. They clearly state that MOA (Cliff Climber axles) axles are not allowed to run in the 1.9 competition class, soooooo, that means that it would have to fail in the 2.2 or super class, right?

[SPECIAL ED]

Originally Posted by 666

Then it would have 1.9 wheels on it!!

The rules state you can only have one motor for both axles. So my guess would be 2.2 class.

Quote:

2.4 - Class 3 – Class 1.9: If a Class 3 vehicle violates any of the following requirements it must run in Class 2 or Class 1 respectively.
• 2.4.1 - Vehicle wheelbase is limited to a maximum of 8.5 inches. This is determined by measuring from centerline of front axle stub to centerline of rear axle stub, with all the wheels pointing straight ahead, with the vehicles suspension holding it's own weight.
• 2.4.2 - Vehicle track width is limited to a maximum of 8 inches. This is determined by measuring the bottom of the outer most edge of the front and rear tires while the vehicle is sitting on level ground.
• 2.4.3 - Vehicle is limited to 1.9 inch wheels/rims or smaller at the bead surface. Wheels may be modified provided that the tire bead surface does not exceed 1.9 inches in diameter. Tires may be modified from other sized tires using only a pliable rubber but must not exceed a total uncompressed outer diameter of 4.25 inches.
• 2.4.4 - Vehicles are limited to 2-wheel steering on front axle only.
• 2.4.5 - Vehicles are limited to the use of 2 channels radio control (one for steering & one for throttle) only. Neither channel can be used to perform more than one function. Radio systems with more than 2 channels are allowed but only 2 channels can be used to control the vehicle.
• 2.4.6 - Vehicles are limited to 1 ESC & 1 servo only.
• 2.4.7 - Vehicles are limited to 1 motor powering both of the axles.
• 2.4.8 – No driver controlled devices, other than steering and throttle control, will be allowed. Independent throttle control to the front or rear axles (“burn” or “dig”), winching down the axles, and forced articulation are not allowed in this class.
• 2.4.9 – A battery is limited to 8.4 nominal voltage (7 cell nimh/nicd & 2 cell lipo/limoly).
• 2.4.10 – 1.9 Crawler class bodiless overall dimension of the complete chassis must be at least 6.75" overall length, 2.5" overall width, and 3.25" overall height.
• 2.4.11 - If at any point during a run your vehicle falls out of these vehicle specs for any reason you will be required to take a touch penalty and correct the problem.

[dezfan]

Yeah, I know. Just venting as I feel the CC axles got screwed in the 1.9 class.

[randy1]

yes it did im with dez on this one . if the losi truck has it own class[sence thats where the ruls were wrote] the the cliff climber should have its own class as well.

[666]

Originally Posted by randy1

yes it did im with dez on this one . if the losi truck has it own class[sence thats where the ruls were wrote] the the cliff climber should have its own class as well.

It has the choice of being 2.2 or super what more do you need?

[dirk379]

You tell em' Patrick, i agree.

[randy1]

because the truck is not a berg by far its a mini tuck just like the losi . sorry u guys are anti durtrax an dont give them a fair chance to compet where u an i both no where they belong

[jason]

Originally Posted by dezfan

Yeah, I know. Just venting as I feel the CC axles got screwed in the 1.9 class.

How did the CC get screwed? The rules committee was very strong on not having dig in the 1.9 class. The only way to guarantee that is to not allow MOA's. I have never seen an MOA that didn't have even a little clod stall.

Originally Posted by randy1

yes it did im with dez on this one . if the losi truck has it own class[sence thats where the ruls were wrote] the the cliff climber should have its own class as well.

The Losi has it's own class? Where is that I must have missed it?

Originally Posted by randy1

because the truck is not a berg by far its a mini tuck just like the losi . sorry u guys are anti durtrax an dont give them a fair chance to compet where u an i both no where they belong

Have you seen a CC and a Losi side by side? It's almost like putting a super next to a 2.2.

[dezfan]

I don't see this axle as being able to be competitive in the 2.2 class, much less the the Supper class. They are limited to the smaller motors and the axles would not hold up to 2.2 comp tires.

I had mine narrow enough to run in the 1.9 class w/ simple parts replacement.

The "they came w/ 2.2 inch wheels argument" is BS IMO.

What size wheels did the TLT come with? Yet it is allowed to compete based on what size wheels you choose to mount on them, not what came in the kit.


IMO, the CC got hung out to dry to apease the MOA haters, and that's the way I see it.

[randy1]

dez u are rite threr 100 percent . it like everything out there they dont want duratrax to compete. the clod stall an hurt u as well as help you. as long as there is no switchs to make the dig then there is no faul there

[randy1]

an as far as the rules . you guys wrote the an it seem you used the losi truck to write them with the deal that there would be other trucks comming out that will fall into this class. it should of been a mini class an they all could of ran in it

[dezfan]

Originally Posted by jason

How did the CC get screwed? The rules committee was very strong on not having dig in the 1.9 class. The only way to guarantee that is to not allow MOA's. I have never seen an MOA that didn't have even a little clod stall.

In the pre DIG era, I ran a 2.2 Clod and no-one complained that I had an "advantage" do to the Clod Stall, if fact it was looked upon as a handicap.

Like I said, IMO (and it's just that an opinion) the CC axles were sacrificed to appease the MOA haters. Right, wrong, or indifferent, that's my opinion.

[666]

[randy1]

seems to me is you would read all the treads on the cc there is no one wanting the clod stall everone it trying to get reed of it. not no much about the moa haters but i do think that the cc is out to dry an its a sham because the cc an the losi play really well togather. imo someone should have played with the lil truck before the hung it out to die. thats what is going to happen to this lil truck

[dezfan]

Your right, I've built a Losi and I'm ready to compete w/ it.

Just needed to vent for what I see as a bad decision.

Sorry if I bunched any panties.