Is this a crawler motor for the C.C. ?

[sweli]

I am not sure the Banebots are 1000kv. They seem faster.

I can try and shoot a quick video tonight of my CC with the following setup.
Banebot motors, 9T pinions, 7cell 2/3a cells, Panther Cougars

Seems fast enough for me.
Could use more torque, so on something between 8.4v and 14.4 would have plenty of wheelspeed and more torque.

[STANG KILLA SS]

that would be awesome.
the stock setup was WAY too fast anyway.

[sweli]

CC, Banebots, 7cell 2/3A, CCSidewinderMicro, 2.2PantherCougars

Sorry for the crappy video. Regular camera batt was dead, so used pocket digi.



I'll try and get it outside this weekend. Way too much work and afterschool kids stuff going on until Sat.

[STANG KILLA SS]

what pinions? was that full out?

[sweli]

Sorry, my bad. 9T pinions. New, just got them.
So:
9T
Banebots
7cell 8.4v
Panther Cougars on wider rims, so OD is a little smaller then normal

That was flat out.
Works for me. I might go up one cell.
But I am using a CC Sidewinder Micro, and they only like 8 cells.

[3DSteve]

That video is helpful, I am looking to get a little more speed out of the truck actually. Mine is using a Futaba MC230 with six NiMH AAs and it's damn slow. Decent torque though. I'm looking for a little more speed, rock-racer style. The batteries might be the problem, they are Energizer batteries I had laying around, but I'm getting a better charger to see if that will help.

I have a GM V3r ESC that's good for 10 cells, so I may give that a try with the stock motors. Throttle control seems lousy though, not nearly as smooth as the Futaba, so I'd like to find something that works on 6 or 7 cells.

[3DSteve]

Has anybody tried the 18-turn 380's from the Traxxas 1/16 Slash?
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXXSD7&P=Z

[sweli]

Originally Posted by 3DSteve

Has anybody tried the 18-turn 380's from the Traxxas 1/16 Slash?
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXXSD7&P=Z

I just saw those the other day and wondered about them.
Check the can size. You might have to modify your suspension on one side to hold the motor.

Need to know the KV rating before I would spend more cash on it.

I wonder, even with smaller 380-395 motors, that AA batteries woudl have a high enough discharge rate to supply what these need?

[Rjohn929]

Originally Posted by sweli

I just saw those the other day and wondered about them.
Check the can size. You might have to modify your suspension on one side to hold the motor.

Need to know the KV rating before I would spend more cash on it.

I wonder, even with smaller 380-395 motors, that AA batteries woudl have a high enough discharge rate to supply what these need?

I had asked this a while ago because I'm sure that motor has pretty good power but I was shot down pretty quick. I was told it was way to fast. I think I'm still going to try them though because they aren't very expensive and I am not happy with the banebots at all. If the Traxxas aren't any better I'm just going to wait for some 454's. I should just give up but that's too easy!

[sweli]

Still wonder about these -

http://www.hobbypartz.com/alpha-400-...ess-motor.html
740kv (Banebot 390 are 1015kv)
28mm dia (Banebot 27.5mm)
6-10 cells
Being an outrunner, prob has more torque then the Banebot Brushed.
It will take two ESCs to run, but I happen to have a second Sidewinder Micro that Castle just sent me as a replacement for my Mamba25.
Run the second ESC on Ch3 on my Futaba 3PM, and mix ch1 and 3 together. Pull my micro dig switch out and use the Tx mixing.

Anyones thought on motors like these?

Could go nuts and ditch the Nimhs and go with something like dual 1100mah 3S lipos. Bet that would eliminate clod stall!

[STANG KILLA SS]

sweli i still have these motors you suggested ages ago, never used.
https://www.goldmine-elec-products.c...?number=G13775

and i just got in my 9T pinions. i want to put in new motors at the same time. should i put the goldmine motors in? or get some bane bots? im after torque.
i have the stock electronics or i could throw in a rooster crawler on 6-7 cells.

what voltage would you suggest for each of the two motor setups?

also the goldmine motors appear to be 283kv?

[sweli]

I forgot about those.
The ad says 1700rpm at 6v. That would make them 283kv??
The shaft size is just under 2.3mm, so give them a try!!

You could start at 6cell, but I bet you'll need 8-10 cells to get the power out of them.
Might not be bad with the 9T pinions.

Are the mounting holes 2.5/2.6 or 3mm?

I cannot remember if I ordered those or not. I have some other Molon motors around that I tried.
Let us know how those work!

[STANG KILLA SS]

well i just put them in tonight.(goldmine motors) left the 11T for now. seems pretty nice. i noticed on the bench still, when i only had one motor in. that the new motor would start up instantly with a ton of power with just a slight pull of the trigger, while the rear motor was just slugishly start up and barely even rotate the tires.

but my batteries are shot, they seem to always dump in about a minute. need to get some new packs. so didnt get much testing in :(
ironically going from 5000 kv to 283kv, the truck didnt seem much slower. hmmm
also going to swap that stock servo for a tower pro. the stocker wont even turn the heavy mayhem wheels at a stop, even on the kitchen tile..

[artsifrtsi]

So yeah, I've been lurking for a while... studying what to do when my CC arrives for a build...
I know that they are probably too fast, but would the Mamba CM2042 with a 9t pinion be still too fast of a motor for crawling? They claim with stock gearing and running a 6 cell pack that a Mini-T will only get 17mph... I don't know what the effective gear ratio is on that, vs the CC with a 9t. Just trying to plan out this build.

I'll either go with the Mamba micro pro or the Max Pro for an ESC... guess I'll try the stock motors with that setup for a while first and see what dies first...

[Rockfrog]

Well, tested out the Tamiya RS380's tonight ... Holy mother of god! I can race with the buggy's at 9.6v (OK not really but she's doing donuts now without issue). They are running right in their prime.
I'm going to try using a 6 cell pack ... should still have loads of torque from these meanies.
Can't wait for my 9T pinions to show. That and a 6 cell pack should bring me down to 35T crawler territory.
Going to try out 'The Bowl' this weekend if it stops raining.

[73fordhighboy]

well i was supposed to do a test on current draw )(stall current) on the cc.... my second idler gear went before i could. parts in mail. bout an hour later spoke to someone at banebots. ordered the 395's.
i still want to try out those redcats 70t lathe motors. on another note- we found a gear and tooth book from a company called Berg. they make it all-tiny nylon chains and stuff. anyways, smaller pinions? maybe adding teeth to the other gears? is it worth it?
what about wider axles? are the graphite patterned axles- just that, patterned? damn these little things.

[STANG KILLA SS]

why the 395s? they have less torque and are faster than the 390.

[73fordhighboy]

Originally Posted by STANG KILLA SS

why the 395s? they have less torque and are faster than the 390.

from what the guy at banebots said that the 390's have more start up tq. the 395's have more tq on the move. 5 pole vs 3 pole- i think.

[Rockfrog]

Tried the RS380's on 6cells .... thought I had stall ... but it turns out i had spun the rear pinion. Tightened it back up and I'm in love with these motors. Now I just have to drill out my 9T's

[han solo]

I have the same problem as many here I bought the ARR and added my own speedo and one 7.2v 4500 c-cell battery. P.S. I did a simple chassis widening to accept the standard c-cell pack. I am running the motors in parallel.
it came with the stock 5000 motors with 7.2 volts the power is not so great from what I can tell they need 14.4 v to come alive.
so I"m going to try these hobbico red hawk 380 motors from tower part # LXLEW5 only $1.38 each ! what the heck its worth a shot.
any words of hope would be nice. I will report.