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2013 ECC Scaler Jam Still working out all the exact details! Gone is the marathon run though the woods:twisted: Think Monster Truck Jam meets American Ninja Warrior meets Wipe Out"thumbsup" It will be a closed course near ECC Command with several man made obstacles integrated in the natural terrain. Winching and wetness will definitely be on the menu. Note: Colby has some badass sketches he will be uploading soon. |
Re: 2013 ECC Scaler Jam Through the process of developing this scale jam format we went through lots of trial and error. We also had several unexpected questions and situations come up. The concept morphed several time as things came up. We adjusted the format accordingly. 1) Classes 1.9 and 2.2 (Trying to keep it simple, but I know some people will try push it with comp trucks disguised as "scalers") 2)Repositions are Allowed. Back to previous check point. 3)Repairs done on clock 4)Driver Safety Repositions are Allowed 5)Winching through any obstacle is allowed. (Portable Winch available to assist if needed) 6)Driver must drive the obstacles as intended. (Example: Approach ramps to bridges are NOT jump ramps) 7)Course courtesy. Most obstacles are built to withstand being driven on, but not the power of a tangled up truck with brush less motors. 8)Course Repair. If a man made obstacle becomes "BROKEN" it will be repaired OFF THE CLOCK. Example: Bridge falls over or collapses. Alot of time, effort, and expense went into providing these man made obstacles for EVERYONE to enjoy. Please don't destroy them and ruin the fun for the drivers that follow in your effort to win. |
Fish and I have been talking about this for a while now. We dont want anyone to get a work out from running behind their RC car at East Coast Championships this year. We wanted to do something that appeals to everyone. This year, slow will be fast. Winching, line choice, and knowing your rig is what is going to win the event. We want to keep this extremely close to HQ (which is just behind where we normally have the tents) we want to use what the great LRC crawl spot gives us, but at the same time build some badass man-made obstacles. I seem to be able to make objects appear and make sense on a peice of paper with a pencil, so here is what I have been working on. First off, I wanted a scale "frame twister" type obstacle with everything people in real life are scared of. Logs, pipes, rocks, buried riff-raff, all that is damp and slippery. My idea is to build a frame from plywood where the bottom is sealed so dirt and logs can be secured inside of it and moved around. I also tossed the idea of a sand pit in there as well. http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8112/8...1632107671.jpg Untitled by colby419, on Flickr http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8229/8...68e321ebb1.jpg Untitled by colby419, on Flickr This event will have Laps, kind of like an Ultra 4 race. We want to setup a go pro at the end of the course like they do at the real KOH, and build a freestyle ramp with some boundaries and a "I dont want to jump line" That consists of a tough obstacle you have to crawl if you dont want to jump. No jump = slower time. http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8523/8...a7331c8482.jpg Untitled by colby419, on Flickr We have had a few scale comps here in GA where we have used a plastic drainage pipe to crawl through, however it isnt just driving through a flat pipe, its been bent, so you have to crawl in one side, run to the other side and watch the rig come back down through it. I then added in some filler, and a bridge up over the top of it. I love this obstacle. http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8385/8...ce7cbbce83.jpg Untitled by colby419, on Flickr Then, everyones favorite scale obstacles, bridges. I just drew a couple up id like to build for this event. http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8244/8...b57586397e.jpg Untitled by colby419, on Flickr Hope this fires you guys up a little bit, more details and more obstacles coming soon! If you have any ideas please feel free to PM me! |
Re: 2013 ECC Scaler Jam I got just the rig for this beating! |
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We will get into how the "Classes" everyone can enter will be scored and what not "thumbsup" |
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Re: 2013 ECC Scaler Jam My Topkick will be ready for such a challenge. I guess winching is okay. For me it is always more fun to actually have to climb the obstacle rather than have an awesome winch. If you have to touch your rig you could just have a reset point and have to run things all over again. It just depends on what exactly your trying to scale your truck after. |
Re: 2013 ECC Scaler Jam My wraith sounds like a fun candidate for this. Especially anything involving jumps and water, now that its waterproofed. |
I think we will be doing a mud pit as a bonus line. Hit the mud pit during one of your laps (probably going to do 3 laps) and you get like a 1 minute deduction of time. I dont want to make anyone get their stuff wet if they dont want to. When i say wet, i mean just enough water on the stuff to make it slippery |
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Re: 2013 ECC Scaler Jam Dang it. I have been upping my cardio workouts to get ready for this scale event. Guess I can back off now. Thanks ECC! |
Re: 2013 ECC Scaler Jam I remember when ECC was for comp rigs... |
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Its called value added.....gives drivers something to do.....plus is I am hoping some "Scaler Only" guys come for this and get hooked on comp crawling. The closed scaler course at Motorama was very popular. |
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I was just thinking, and have had others tell me the time and energy could be used to make the comp side bigger and better than ever. I love this event and comp crawling, I want both to last a long time. "thumbsup" |
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What should we focus on to make bigger and better on the comp side? The number of drivers + course time limits are already maxed out due to available daylight. Past experience has taught me that 6 course is close to the limit due to judges willing to step up. ECC courses are built by drivers from all over the country (outside AL). Is there something we should be doing differently there? Every ECC has had a hiccup or 2, so NOT having scale does not prevent problems. Only one has had a scale event linked to it, and from my point of view Scale didn't cause any additional headache only added a TON of fun. As far as making the comp side of things better I am open for suggestions."thumbsup" |
Re: 2013 ECC Scaler Jam What kind of ideas do you have to make the comp side bigger and better. We could do that along with the scale events. |
Re: 2013 ECC Scaler Jam Nevermind did not want to ruffle feathers, just a die hard comp guy, that's all. |
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I am always open to good ideas. EXAMPLE:I didn't invent the free crawl system, but I was the 1st major comp to use it. Now it the norm"thumbsup" Take it off line if you feel it will ruffle less feathers. |
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Just don't like scalers at comp events, but it seems to be the new norm and I will just have to get used to it. "thumbsup" |
Re: 2013 ECC Scaler Jam Definately not ruffled here. Just trying to make the events that are semi close to me as good as possible. If there are things that I can do to help Fish put on a great event I am down. |
Re: 2013 ECC Scaler Jam The event has always been top notch, keep up the good work. "thumbsup" |
I understand where youre coming from Rowdy. However, i love having the scale events at these bigger comps because it will bring in more competators who may not want to come all the way to bama and spend money on gas/ food for the weekend for just comp trucks. Adding in the scale factor actually attracts people with their comp rigs. Couple of guys at ECC last year cane just for scale and ended up wanting to get into the comp rigs. Ill have a spair rig if you want to run it Rowdy! |
Re: 2013 ECC Scaler Jam Rowdy can squeeze Ellie Mae if he takes a notion to play"thumbsup" gatekeeper sure enjoyed it |
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Re: 2013 ECC Scaler Jam More like Ellie Mae on Beverly hillbillies, but for the right price?? |
Re: 2013 ECC Scaler Jam In addition to the scaler jam, Id like to setup a southern buggy hill climb some where. I know alot of bouncers will be there including a couple that I have, so why not find a dirt hill and throw some gates on it and do it up like the real ones do? No rules, just for fun "thumbsup" |
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You all are correct. Rock bouncers, bouncy houses, bouncers, and even some bouncing obstacles. Should be a good time, thanks for the ideas guys lol |
Re: 2013 ECC Scaler Jam Man im so excited for this me and my buddy are comin all the way fron michigan to support our club were in mirca im coming all the way just for the scaler meeting my buddy will have his comp truck and scaler cant wait to meet some of you guys thanks for makin my day"thumbsup" |
Re: 2013 ECC Scaler Jam What's the cost to run in the scale event? |
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Re: 2013 ECC Scaler Jam We have usage of the big bowl at the back of the gravel road! |
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That would be THE PERFECT SPOT if it's still there, I mean if they haven't cleared it out by then. "thumbsup""thumbsup""thumbsup""thumbsup""thumbsup" "thumbsup" |
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