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EeePee · 06-15-2007, 01:33 PM

Looks like something new will be out soon from Novak.

Link to Tower add: Novak Rooster Crawler Brushed ESC

Also, Novak Crawler Sintered Brushless System

Grizzly4x4 · 06-15-2007, 01:47 PM

I was gonna buy a Rooster 12T for Guido after seeing how well Kaetwo's worked but this Rooster Crawler sounds interesting. Guess I'll wait for more info.

Thorsteenster · 06-15-2007, 01:58 PM

hopefully it has a better BEC. nothing on novaks website about it......

Grizzly4x4 · 06-15-2007, 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thorsteenster

hopefully it has a better BEC. nothing on novaks website about it......

I saw the 12T's BEC in action in Montana and was very impressed. Kaetwo and Pinchflat both said that they were impressed with how much more power the servos had. And they aren't impressed by everything that floats down the river.

Hopefully the "Crawler" will be better or at least as good.

JohnRobHolmes · 06-15-2007, 02:32 PM

Hopefully it isnt more expensive than the Mamba Max, with less features...

Thorsteenster · 06-15-2007, 02:37 PM

hmm, i thought the 12t bec was on the weak side.

whats up with novak, when will they have programming features like the max? i was looking through some of the old novak esc's the other day, they used to have those high end esc's you could program with the plug in programmer and i think a pc interface. i sure wish they would do it again.

Grizzly4x4 · 06-15-2007, 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thorsteenster

hmm, i thought the 12t bec was on the weak side.

whats up with novak, when will they have programming features like the max? i was looking through some of the old novak esc's the other day, they used to have those high end esc's you could program with the plug in programmer and i think a pc interface. i sure wish they would do it again.

I thought the same thing until I saw it.

I never heard of progammable ESC's before Castle Creations. But I was out of rc for many years before crawlers.
I don't understand why Novak wouldn't do one either.

JohnRobHolmes · 06-15-2007, 02:42 PM

Im glad that they are listening, for sure. I just think it would be a bad move to introduce a new product that doesnt improve on what is already available or make the same technology cheaper. Im fine with running a voltage regulator for servo power. In fact I prefer it so that my RX doesnt have to channel the power to my servos. Tends to cause issues with glitching I have found.

microgoat · 06-15-2007, 02:48 PM

The Rooster Crawler is pretty sweet. I've been knocking one around since February

The drag brake is set to hold your rig in place, and does a very good job of it, even the newly-porky Buster. Power delivery is very smooth, and the BEC has enough grunt to run a winch (but not enough to overcome that drag brake

My prototype has a much better feel than the Rooster 12, smoother down low and the BEC seems gruntier (if that's a word). Obviously I have no specs on it, but it's been a real winner so far.

And no, there's no Castle Link programming. The box-stock profile works just fine

There was an outside chance it was going to be named the Goat. I had my fingers crossed.

Thorsteenster · 06-15-2007, 03:03 PM

http://www.teamnovak.com/products/pr...ard/index.html
http://www.teamnovak.com/products/pr...are/index.html

Grizzly4x4 · 06-15-2007, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by johnrobholmes

Im glad that they are listening, for sure. I just think it would be a bad move to introduce a new product that doesnt improve on what is already available or make the same technology cheaper. Im fine with running a voltage regulator for servo power. In fact I prefer it so that my RX doesnt have to channel the power to my servos. Tends to cause issues with glitching I have found.

I agree with you there John. I've got no problems with using a voltage reg if the ESC has other great features.

Quote:

Originally Posted by microgoat

The Rooster Crawler is pretty sweet. I've been knocking one around since February

The drag brake is set to hold your rig in place, and does a very good job of it, even the newly-porky Buster. Power delivery is very smooth, and the BEC has enough grunt to run a winch (but not enough to overcome that drag brake

My prototype has a much better feel than the Rooster 12, smoother down low and the BEC seems gruntier (if that's a word). Obviously I have no specs on it, but it's been a real winner so far.

And no, there's no Castle Link programming. The box-stock profile works just fine

There was an outside chance it was going to be named the Goat. I had my fingers crossed.

The Goat would have been a cool name.

Sounds like a good ESC, hopefully the price is right.

Quote:

Originally Posted by thorsteenster

http://www.teamnovak.com/products/pr...ard/index.html
http://www.teamnovak.com/products/pr...are/index.html

Cool stuff there thorsteenster.

Rockpiledriver · 06-15-2007, 03:38 PM

I too have been testing these since Feb and agree with everything Microgoat said. This is a great esc that will also work with dual motors.

The low end resolution is incredible, and so is the brake. Plus it's entirely MADE IN THE USA just like all of Novaks products.

EeePee · 06-15-2007, 05:24 PM

It's nice having insiders here on RCC.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rockpiledriver

Plus it's entirely MADE IN THE USA just like all of Novaks products.

http://teamnovak.com/notices/index.html

microgoat · 06-15-2007, 05:42 PM

You could have driven it, if you'd got out of bed for the GTG at Nelson

Mad Scientist · 06-15-2007, 08:56 PM

I'm just glad that brushed motors aren't being totally forgotten

JohnRobHolmes · 06-15-2007, 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Scientist

I'm just glad that brushed motors aren't being totally forgotten

There is no way that brushed motors will be replaced by brushless in this scene. Brushed motors still have the best throttle feel and control when a good ESC is being used.

rockwerks · 06-15-2007, 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Scientist

I'm just glad that brushed motors aren't being totally forgotten

They never will be, with a quality esc, they have much better finite control that brushless it is the nature of the beasts

LOL you beat me too it!

JohnRobHolmes · 06-15-2007, 09:06 PM

I might like the brushless and sell the good points, but I'm not blind to the advantages of brushed motors for sure. I do have a couple 55t lathe motors and some other brushed motors.

Rockpiledriver · 06-16-2007, 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EeePee

It's nice having insiders here on RCC.

http://teamnovak.com/notices/index.html

That's a disclaimer about components. Did you expect otherwise? Or did you just want to shoot down my statement?

Have you taken a tour of their facility? I have, and I can assure you that these, aside from the obvious, are made in the USA.

NovakTwo · 06-16-2007, 10:46 AM

Novak will be uploading all the crawler info to the web-site Mon or Tues. The street price should be the same as the Rooster 12T.

The old Novak Cyclones could be programmed thru a device called the Pit Wizard. Must have been before its time because it was not a hot seller!

06-15-2007, 01:33 PM	#1
EeePee MODERATOR™ Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Ohio Posts: 18,928	Novak Rooster Crawler BRUSHED ESC Looks like something new will be out soon from Novak. Link to Tower add: Novak Rooster Crawler Brushed ESC Also, Novak Crawler Sintered Brushless System

06-15-2007, 02:48 PM	#9
microgoat I wanna be Dave Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cleveland, OH Posts: 8,009	The Rooster Crawler is pretty sweet. I've been knocking one around since February The drag brake is set to hold your rig in place, and does a very good job of it, even the newly-porky Buster. Power delivery is very smooth, and the BEC has enough grunt to run a winch (but not enough to overcome that drag brake My prototype has a much better feel than the Rooster 12, smoother down low and the BEC seems gruntier (if that's a word). Obviously I have no specs on it, but it's been a real winner so far. And no, there's no Castle Link programming. The box-stock profile works just fine There was an outside chance it was going to be named the Goat. I had my fingers crossed. Last edited by microgoat; 06-15-2007 at 02:50 PM.

06-15-2007, 01:47 PM	#2
Grizzly4x4 PapaGriz Yo Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: In the garage building the wife a crawler Posts: 13,137	I was gonna buy a Rooster 12T for Guido after seeing how well Kaetwo's worked but this Rooster Crawler sounds interesting. Guess I'll wait for more info.

06-15-2007, 01:58 PM	#3
Thorsteenster I wanna be Dave Join Date: May 2006 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 3,377	hopefully it has a better BEC. nothing on novaks website about it......

06-15-2007, 02:32 PM	#5
JohnRobHolmes owner, Holmes Hobbies LLC Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Volt up! Gear down! Posts: 20,290	Hopefully it isnt more expensive than the Mamba Max, with less features...

06-15-2007, 02:37 PM	#6
Thorsteenster I wanna be Dave Join Date: May 2006 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 3,377	hmm, i thought the 12t bec was on the weak side. whats up with novak, when will they have programming features like the max? i was looking through some of the old novak esc's the other day, they used to have those high end esc's you could program with the plug in programmer and i think a pc interface. i sure wish they would do it again.

06-15-2007, 02:42 PM	#8
JohnRobHolmes owner, Holmes Hobbies LLC Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Volt up! Gear down! Posts: 20,290	Im glad that they are listening, for sure. I just think it would be a bad move to introduce a new product that doesnt improve on what is already available or make the same technology cheaper. Im fine with running a voltage regulator for servo power. In fact I prefer it so that my RX doesnt have to channel the power to my servos. Tends to cause issues with glitching I have found.

06-15-2007, 03:03 PM	#10
Thorsteenster I wanna be Dave Join Date: May 2006 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 3,377	http://www.teamnovak.com/products/pr...ard/index.html http://www.teamnovak.com/products/pr...are/index.html

06-15-2007, 03:38 PM	#12
Rockpiledriver I wanna be Dave Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: SoCal Posts: 5,027	I too have been testing these since Feb and agree with everything Microgoat said. This is a great esc that will also work with dual motors. The low end resolution is incredible, and so is the brake. Plus it's entirely MADE IN THE USA just like all of Novaks products.

06-15-2007, 05:42 PM	#14
microgoat I wanna be Dave Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cleveland, OH Posts: 8,009	You could have driven it, if you'd got out of bed for the GTG at Nelson

06-15-2007, 08:56 PM	#15
Mad Scientist RCC Addict Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Saginaw Posts: 1,721	I'm just glad that brushed motors aren't being totally forgotten

06-15-2007, 09:06 PM	#18
JohnRobHolmes owner, Holmes Hobbies LLC Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Volt up! Gear down! Posts: 20,290	I might like the brushless and sell the good points, but I'm not blind to the advantages of brushed motors for sure. I do have a couple 55t lathe motors and some other brushed motors.

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06-16-2007, 10:46 AM	#20
NovakTwo Quarry Creeper Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: SoCal Posts: 407	Novak will be uploading all the crawler info to the web-site Mon or Tues. The street price should be the same as the Rooster 12T. The old Novak Cyclones could be programmed thru a device called the Pit Wizard. Must have been before its time because it was not a hot seller!

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