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Old 06-02-2008, 03:06 PM   #1
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Default Ok, bout to bite the bullet on the rest of my electronics.

It is almost there aside form a motor, batteries, charger, radio etc.

Here is where I be: MM, BEC, 5955, 225 - maybe.

I am buying a DX3R, and both lipo and saddles. I want to be able to play in many conditions.

So, I come to you all after reading a ton about Cobalts. I emailed HH a few minutes ago and will ask you all the same. I want wheel speed with great low end response. If need be I want to move my apartment off of the foundation, but be able to do it very slowly and controlled. Money is no issue. (within reason) Do I go for a traditional 55t Hand wound, or the like? Or do what i think is right and go with a Cobalt?

I see that they are releasing in a couple of days for HH. But, I see no 5T or 10T listed on their for sale? Are you all getting your 5/10's from HH as well?

I understand entirely the winds on motors and how they work. But, I have only cared about that in track cars and stadium trucks that hit 60 mph, not 5 mph. Is there really a noticeable difference in these different winds at these speeds?

Like I said, I want to run both LiPo and saddle. I just want the best option the first time I do it.

I have entirely upgraded my drivetrain for hopefully anything I can throw at it.

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Old 06-02-2008, 06:40 PM   #2
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i'm running a 7t cobalt puller and it is great. i also have 40t motors from team brood racing in my clod. they offer plenty of wheelspeed and torque and a better run time than the cobalt motor
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I have said it before, the Holmes Hobbies Cobalt Puller is the best crawling motor ever made. It offers great low speed control, stump pulling torque, and good wheelspeed.

I'd recommend a 7T Cobalt, I have a 10T as well and while I love it, the 7T offers more wheelspeed with similar low speed control. The wheelspeed difference is quite noticable, especially when you get to 11+ volts.

Yes, the 5Tand 10T also came from Holmes.
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I have said it before, the Holmes Hobbies Cobalt Puller is the best crawling motor ever made. It offers great low speed control, stump pulling torque, and good wheelspeed.

I'd recommend a 7T Cobalt, I have a 10T as well and while I love it, the 7T offers more wheelspeed with similar low speed control. The wheelspeed difference is quite noticable, especially when you get to 11+ volts.

Yes, the 5Tand 10T also came from Holmes.
Ahhhh, good answer there. Since they release in two days should I go ahead and preorder one? I know I am looking for a hand to hold but I need to make sure that I get the right motor.

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And another hand holder - what pinions should I be looking for with this motor and the Axial trans? I was thinking around 14, 15, 16, etc?
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Old 06-02-2008, 09:35 PM   #6
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I debated the same thing Doc, to Cobalt or not to Cobalt. I have seen them first hand and I agree with Griz. I personally run a plain 45t integy in both my comp rig and scaler with a 9c 2/3a packs. I have more than enough wheel speed. The main reason I did not go with the cobalt is the broken parts!!! I have seen guys twist and snap maxx shafts with them! I know I am heavy on the throttle also! They are the smoothest slow control and insane wheel speed that I have seen in one motor. If you do get one, make sure you buy drive train parts
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Ahhhh, good answer there. Since they release in two days should I go ahead and preorder one? I know I am looking for a hand to hold but I need to make sure that I get the right motor.

Thank you all.
Well, I thought I made it clear. :-P Yes, buy a Cobalt Puller. I don't think you will be disappointed. If you are, I'll buy it from you, cuz I love them. Like THnCS said, if you have weak dritrain parts or don't know when to throttle it and when to let up, then the pullers can bite you. If you drive smart, they are fine.

If you are so worried about the motor you could get a Holmes Hobbies Handwound 35T. It's a great motor as well, just not as much torque and less wheelspeed.
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And another hand holder - what pinions should I be looking for with this motor and the Axial trans? I was thinking around 14, 15, 16, etc?
In my 1.9er I was running a 7T Puller, 81T spur and 22T pinion. Even on 14.4V it crawled really well and was stupid fast. Ask racerx.
I'd start with 87/16 gearing.
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Ah hell, I just ordered it. I'm not skurd, lol. I have upgraded my drivetrain except for the shafts. Will do that soon though. Once the chromoly lockers come, my drivetrain will be bulletproof. I even have the clutch as the extreme backup piece.

So, I did ask before on the pinions. The stock 48p 87t spur will need what pinion for this motor. I was just going to buy 12-16t's and experiment. What is the consensus on these motors and gearing? I have read through a bit but was curious.

Thanks again all.

Edit: Damn Griz, you answered before I wrote this, lol.

So, your recommendations for gearing are great. What aftermarket spurs do you suggest? I have the VF Dig, and will be doing the driveshaft mods so they will be thicker?

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What aftermarket spurs do you suggest? I have the VF Dig, and will be doing the driveshaft mods so they will be thicker?
I think the best you can get is the Kimbrough ones. I picked mine up at the S. Hobbytown, last time I was in there they had a pretty good selection.
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Edit: Damn Griz, you answered before I wrote this, lol.

So, your recommendations for gearing are great. What aftermarket spurs do you suggest? I have the VF Dig, and will be doing the driveshaft mods so they will be thicker?
Hahaha.

I can't recommend a spur other than I think Kimbroughs are good. I have converted both my Axial trannys to use Traxxas slipper clutches. The Traxxas slipper is cheaper and spurs are super easy to find.
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Well, thankfully something was wrong in my order so I called JRH. Left a message and he called back really fast. He left a message so I called really fast, lol.

Great guy with loads of wisdom for a noob like me. I am more than confident now about the 7T finding a home in my crawler. Apparently I had ordered the last one too!!! Can't be too disappointed with that. Thanks John.

He stated that the stock Axial spur is fine with the stock pinion. So, all I need to do is play and figure it all out.

Thanks for all the feedback guys.

Now, anyone wanna lend me a DX3R for the Colorado comp?!? LMAO Yeah right.
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