Rooster Crawler vs Tekin FXr - Brakes...

[rctoyguy]

Can someone explain the difference in the way the "drag brake" works on these ESCs? I know it's different, but I don't think I understand the pros/cons of each.
I'm trying to decide which ESC to put in my truck...

[eric113]

I would go with Tekin.

With the Tekin it fully programmable. As the rooster crawler is not and is limited on battery both lipo and NMhi

I Been very happy with my Tekin and glad I got it.

[kaetwo]

I too would go with Tekin.

The ESC is vastly more adjustable and gives you the ability to tune your rig in a way you will not get with the Novak. Not to mention the size, field programable, weight, etc.....

I promise you won't be dissapointed

[toytech93]

Well I would chose the FXR hands down. I love mine.
You can run up to a 3 cell lipo,also fully adjustable drag brake and all other functions.

The rooster crawler esc is NONADJUSTABLE. Also has a voltage limit, 2cell lipo or 7 cell nmih.

[rctoyguy]

Thanks for the quick responses... No reliability issues? Customer Service? I know Novak's Customer Service is awesome.

Still curious too about the way the brakes work.

[eric113]

Originally Posted by rctoyguy

Thanks for the quick responses... No reliability issues? Customer Service? I know Novak's Customer Service is awesome.

Still curious too about the way the brakes work.

Tekin, reliability is Awesome you won't have problems with it. Tekin takes care of their Customers.

[kaetwo]

Originally Posted by rctoyguy

Thanks for the quick responses... No reliability issues? Customer Service? I know Novak's Customer Service is awesome.

Still curious too about the way the brakes work.

I've never had a complaint about Novak myself and never one problem from Tekin. As far as reliablility.....Never had a problem.

On the brakes are adjustable from 1-10 in the field or 1-100 by Hot Link. What happens is that the ESC applies brake at a % when the wheels move without forward current. This allows you to roll down a hill in control at whatever speed you like. I set mine everytime I crawl depending on the terrain, temperature, tires used, etc....

On the Novak it applies what feels like 100% brake when you let off the throttle. It stops your for sure but it not easy to control by anymeans.

Hope that helps.

[XPLORx4]

I can't say how a Novak ESC works, but I just replaced the RTR ESC with a Tekin FXR, and all I can say is WOW. Great low-speed control, not twitchy anymore. The drag brake is also great. In fact, if you're driving on level ground at full throttle, then release to neutral, the tires will lock up and stop the rig immediately. No need to hit reverse to brake. I have my FXR set up for no reverse delay, drag brake on 3/7. When the throttle is at neutral, the drag brake holds the crawler firmly in place. I still have to experiment more with the drag brake setting on the ESC or radio trim to see if there's a better overall setting.

[BigSki]

I got a Tekin unit installed last night after having the Rooster sent back for firmware update, only to have it still glitch. I only have about 1 hr on the Tekin so far, but it was much simpler to program, the size is no larger than a Rx and it is vastly more adjustable. I wish I had know about them before I wasted hard earned money on a Rooster and Goat system.

The only thing that could be an issue with the Tekin is that you need a really good soldering iron, or a gun to heat up the posts to solder the wires on to them. I can notice a hugh difference by being able to run 8 cells with the Tekin system, the crawler just has lots more power on tap.

[CJBrad]

So the drag brake stops the vehicle and keeps you from rolling when off the throttle. Does it also continue to hold....even on an incline?

[XPLORx4]

Originally Posted by CJBrad

So the drag brake stops the vehicle and keeps you from rolling when off the throttle. Does it also continue to hold....even on an incline?

Oh yes, it certainly does! Of course, how well it holds depends on how high you set the drag brake. Mine is set near the middle, and it holds the rig dead still on a 60-degree slope. I still have some experimentation to do to find the ideal settings for my driving style.

[860Crawler]

I havent had experience with both, but this Rooster Crawler I have damn near flips the truck over forward when I let off the throttle too quickly. It works great on downhill slopes and holds great. I have found I can minimize it by adjusting the throttle trim on my Spektrum, but it also elminates the hold when I play with the trim in that way. I'd like to try the Tekin to see how that works though.

[maro69camaro]

if i know then what i know today i would of never bought my rooster, go tekin for sure. way more ajustments and power.

[rctoyguy]

860crawler - that is what I am seeing from other people - not a good thing.

I believe the Tekin will slow to a stop then hold, which seems like the better method.

I'm pretty much sold at this point... just gotta save a few more pennies.

[XPLORx4]

If you would like to review how the functions of the FXR work, you can read the FX-R User manual which explains each of the programmable features (near the end of the first page and beginning of the second page). I actually use a combination of "Push Control" and "Drag Brake" on mine. More experimentation will probably be needed.

[Thekingcrawler]

If you want the easy one to use go with the rooster, but the tekin is far more adjustable so it makes it much more easy to fine tune

[amstel78]

My only experience with Tekin ESC's have been from the late 80's. I did however replace the stock ESC in my AX10 RTR tonight with a Novak Rooster Crawler, and I think it's a good upgrade. While the drag brake is a bit touchy, I don't find it difficult to get used to and control. It's certainly leaps and bounds above the stock Axial unit and the price isn't shabby.

[Harley]

There is absolutely no question. Tekin FXR. Own the rooster, drove it once and now it sits on a shelf.

The only decision I would possibly have a hard time making is between FXR and Sidewinder.

[mockknight]

Originally Posted by Harley0706

The only decision I would possibly have a hard time making is between FXR and Sidewinder.

That is the decesion I have been trying to make

[eric113]

Originally Posted by Harley0706

There is absolutely no question. Tekin FXR. Own the rooster, drove it once and now it sits on a shelf.

The only decision I would possibly have a hard time making is between FXR and Sidewinder.

I can say after having the mm and FXR... I still chose the FXR for how small it is and drag brake is alot more powerful. I have FXR drag set at 50% and I would have 100% for mm. The FXR drag brake is that much better!