super motors

[crawlman]

Im new to this so please take it easy on my i have searched looked at holms hobby etc.. I just dont know what to buy. What brushed motors would you use in a super??? I have the novak rooster crawler esc and the 55 combo X 2 but in my X crawler I have no wheel speed. Its way to slow Im using 1 venom 3000 batt for both is that the problem?? I have them wired red to red black to black from both esc's.

[666]

I use either 35 or 45 turn handwounds, with Mamba Max ESC's on 11.1 volts.

Try some bigger pinions, that might help?

[crawlman]

Originally Posted by 666

I use either 35 or 45 turn handwounds, with Mamba Max ESC's on 11.1 volts.

Try some bigger pinions, that might help?

well i want to stick with my esc's i have it says single motor limit 27
dual motor 35 dual

who makes a good handwounds??? holms hobby???

[666]

Originally Posted by crawlman

well i want to stick with my esc's i have it says single motor limit 27
dual motor 35 dual

who makes a good handwounds??? holms hobby???

Yep Holmes Hobbies is the place run2jeepin has great motors also.

[crawlman]

do you know the name of the motor I dont seem to see one that says 45t or 35t


where do i look for run2 jeep guy ??

[Espeefan]

I just helped my friend get his crawler going with a Tekin machine wound 45 turn motor and it ran very nice. Good power, wheel speed (depending on gearing and cell count), and very smooth. If you don't feel like spending the extra money for a hand wound motor, I'd highly recommend this motor. I've never run a hand wound motor, but when you are buying two motors for a dual motor crawler, you can save a lot of money by going with the machine wound motors.

[xerocomm]

Originally Posted by crawlman

Im new to this so please take it easy on my i have searched looked at holms hobby etc.. I just dont know what to buy. What brushed motors would you use in a super??? I have the novak rooster crawler esc and the 55 combo X 2 but in my X crawler I have no wheel speed. Its way to slow Im using 1 venom 3000 batt for both is that the problem?? I have them wired red to red black to black from both esc's.

Motors are a very personal choice but I am 99% sure you would not regret the JP Customs Warrior II 35T hand wound, these motors are built around a PT can and have a very linear power band from the very bottom to the top. I have recently run several tests on the Holm's Torque Master P-94 Pro Hand-wound and the JP Customs Warrior II 35T both were awesome motors. You will have more wheel speed with the Warrior II 35T and since that is one of your complaints, that seals the deal - JP Customs Warrior II 35T - you can view additional information at: http://www.jpcustomrcs.atomicshops.c...86/5254837.htm
http://holmeshobbies.com/product.php...&cat=17&page=1
The Venom 3000 battery should be fine with the Novak Rooster Crawler ESC, although my preference would be a Lipo battery which will provide more current to the ESC but your Tamiya plug on the Venom 3000 will be a large limiting factor. This brings me to one other thought, if you are using the standard Tamiya Connector that is on the Venom 3000, you may want to ace that connector and replace all connectors with Deans Polarized Ultra Plugs. The Deans connectors are very low resistance plugs, thus when the current increases, your voltage will not decrease. One way to see if this is one of your problems is to "feel" the Tamiya plug after running your X Crawler, is it hot? If yes, get rid of the Tamiya plug quickly before it melts!

Welcome to the forum! No question is a dumb question and no answer is the perfect answer since our collaboration of ideas is what makes us stronger. Closed minds keep us weak, open minds makes us all strong! Thank you for the questions, ask more.............

[SUPERINVA]

I am also running 2 55t motors. When I got them, I was only running a 6 cell pack. Wheel speed was terrible, and torque was lame. I made my own 5 cell packs and wired them in series giving me 12V. Now it runs awesome, great run time and lots more speed. Try increasing your cell count, this will up the voltage, and should deliver what you're looking for. Not to mention still less expensive than buying 2 new high end motors. Anyone who has been into crawling will tell you this. Don't know why it has'nt been mentioned yet. Good Luck.

[xerocomm]

Originally Posted by SUPERINVA

I am also running 2 55t motors. When I got them, I was only running a 6 cell pack. Wheel speed was terrible, and torque was lame. I made my own 5 cell packs and wired them in series giving me 12V. Now it runs awesome, great run time and lots more speed. Try increasing your cell count, this will up the voltage, and should deliver what you're looking for. Not to mention still less expensive than buying 2 new high end motors. Anyone who has been into crawling will tell you this. Don't know why it has'nt been mentioned yet. Good Luck.

This is a great idea and is very common in the Crawling world IF your ESC can handle the additional cells. I think it has not been mentioned since Novak makes great ESC's but they have a known limitation: Input Voltage Maximum: 7 Cell Ni-CD/Ni-MH (1.2 Volt Cell) or 2 Cell Li-Poly: http://www.teamnovak.com/products/es...ler/index.html
So if he runs 12v to the Rooster, smoke will be a common outcome - please correct me if I am wrong, I am not someone who knows it all. He may be able to increase from 6 Cell Ni-MH to 7 Cell Ni-MH and get a little more wheel speed but not much. Maybe the combination of 7 Cells with the JP Customs Warrior II or the higher wheel speed Warrior R would be the solution.

[crawlman]

Originally Posted by xerocomm

This is a great idea and is very common in the Crawling world IF your ESC can handle the additional cells. I think it has not been mentioned since Novak makes great ESC's but they have a known limitation: Input Voltage Maximum: 7 Cell Ni-CD/Ni-MH (1.2 Volt Cell) or 2 Cell Li-Poly: http://www.teamnovak.com/products/es...ler/index.html
So if he runs 12v to the Rooster, smoke will be a common outcome - please correct me if I am wrong, I am not someone who knows it all. He may be able to increase from 6 Cell Ni-MH to 7 Cell Ni-MH and get a little more wheel speed but not much. Maybe the combination of 7 Cells with the JP Customs Warrior II or the higher wheel speed Warrior R would be the solution.

Yes you are right 8.4 volts max on rooster... Heres what I did for now Because the 35t motors wont be avalible for a week or so. I went and got a 7 cell 8.4 volt batt. The stock pinion on the X crawler is a 9 tooth I changed it to a 11 tooth. Now I have the burst I need to get me up and over those little hook ups. thanks guys

[xerocomm]

Originally Posted by crawlman

Yes you are right 8.4 volts max on rooster... Heres what I did for now Because the 35t motors wont be avalible for a week or so. I went and got a 7 cell 8.4 volt batt. The stock pinion on the X crawler is a 9 tooth I changed it to a 11 tooth. Now I have the burst I need to get me up and over those little hook ups. thanks guys

I love creativity! Let us know if you decide to swap the motors, if you do which one you decided to use and the results.