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09-20-2010, 05:16 PM
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| I wanna be Dave  Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Campbell, CA 4 hrs 2Rubicon !
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|  How to decide 35t or 45 turn Motors BERG ?
Got some cash finally, So how do you figure which motor turn to run with ? I'll be running a berg on DUAL ESC and 3s and 4s |
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09-20-2010, 05:16 PM
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| owner, Holmes Hobbies LLC   Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Volt up! Gear down!
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Flip a coin. But I would recommend 45t if you plan to run 4s as well. 35s will take it, but your pocketbook may not like it. |
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09-20-2010, 05:29 PM
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| I wanna be Dave Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Campbell, CA 4 hrs 2Rubicon !
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hey John, thank u. ready to order now. What do you mean my pocketbook? will I be burning up 35t's on 4s ? also, your site says to enter the number of winds I want. what is it and how do I figure that out ? Last edited by toy4crawlin; 09-20-2010 at 05:47 PM. |
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09-20-2010, 06:00 PM
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| On the lookout for Rocks   Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Monroe, Louisiana
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09-20-2010, 06:16 PM
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| I wanna be Dave Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Campbell, CA 4 hrs 2Rubicon !
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I was asking why I would be spending money if I use 35t's on 4s ? | |
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09-20-2010, 06:25 PM
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| Rock Crawler Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Ontario Canada
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more winds = more torque less speed less winds = more speed less torque winds are just another term for turns. 35t is 35 turns/winds | |
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09-20-2010, 06:38 PM
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| I wanna be Dave Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Campbell, CA 4 hrs 2Rubicon !
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thanks, makes sense. How about timming ? If I go with a set of 35's do I loose throttle fineese/smoothness ? Also I plan on trimming weight off. | |
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09-20-2010, 07:18 PM
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| I wanna be Dave Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Where freedom is earned.
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I run a 35T in front, and a 45T in back. I run a Bully, but principle is the same. Keeps the front turning more than the rear, turns tighter. Plenty easy to control.
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09-20-2010, 07:23 PM
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| I wanna be Dave Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: I miss Rowdy
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35's will be smooth as long as you have the speedo set correctly and the motors are in good condition. My 35's are VERY smooth and low speed control and torque are great.
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09-20-2010, 07:24 PM
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| MODERHATER™  Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Colorado
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I run 35 turns-2 Mamba Maxs. I had 45's they were kick ass but the 35's are pretty much the same but more speed when I want it!!
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09-20-2010, 07:26 PM
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| owner, Holmes Hobbies LLC Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Volt up! Gear down!
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The 35 turns on 4s will wear out fast. You are also likely to break parts unless you drive carefully.
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09-20-2010, 07:29 PM
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| MODERHATER™ Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Colorado
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What wears out fast? The brushes, the comm? I run 35's in my clod super on 4 cell A123, so I am wondering, so far they have been amazing! | |
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09-20-2010, 07:41 PM
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| RCC Addict Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Token's life matters
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I ran 45t brood handwounds on 4s in my berg. Perfect setup, but very very hard on the 3rd gears. To the tune of 3 in less than 1 pack of hard running. The 35t with 3s would be the same. The shock loading of the 3rd gear with high wheelspeed eats them. Now that there are aftermarket 3rd gears that might be different, but you will probably still need to be carefull. The trend is going to more and more wheelspeed. Its more fun. I think if your going to run 3s and 4s the 45t would be best. Lots of wheelspeed on 4s if the 3s is not enough. With that being said, I am looking to pick up some 35t handwounds soon. But they will be run on 3s only. I like my 9 tooth pinions in my berg now, but with 45t on 3s there is just not enough wheelspeed for me. But I have become a wheelspeed freak. Here is my mini for what I want out of my Berg. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bqoYAr6PVY |
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09-20-2010, 08:49 PM
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| I wanna be Dave Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Campbell, CA 4 hrs 2Rubicon !
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Thanks all, I'll run 35's and a super light berg. Support Holmes, but always curious, is the CKRC twisters the same ? Last edited by toy4crawlin; 09-20-2010 at 08:52 PM. |
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09-21-2010, 04:42 PM
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| MODERATOR™  Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Ohio
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The more RPMs, the sooner things wear out, the sooner the end of its life cycle. You can change brushes, but the commutator has only so much copper on it. | |
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09-21-2010, 05:29 PM
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| owner, Holmes Hobbies LLC Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Volt up! Gear down!
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Some of the wear can be reduced by using softer springs, but then you sacrifice on throttle drag and torque. Spin em fast, expect to service them every 30 minutes or less. |
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09-21-2010, 08:42 PM
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| Pebble Pounder Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Colorado Springs
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What would you all recommended on 2s with a burg. will a Novak handle a 3s pack its only rated at 2s
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09-21-2010, 08:50 PM
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| I wanna be Dave Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: EvilCrawlerDesigns@comcast.net
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