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Xtant3150c 10-09-2009 11:04 PM

Novak M2 Dig ESC Combo
 
http://www.teamnovak.com/

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The M2 Dig ESC Combo (#1845) is one highly programmable, inexpensive package that will revolutionize the crawling industry. This first-of-its-kind, dual-motor compatible speed control – the M2 Dig Dual Brush ESC (#1846) – is combined with two Terra Claw Crawling Brush Motors – 55T (#3556) and independently controls the motors to perform dig maneuvers. In addition to standard digs, the M2 sports independent biasing of the front and rear motors to allow for precise maneuverability through tricky terrain, and exceptional control on steep inclines and downhill descents. Additionally, the M2 Dig ESC can be fine tuned via Novak’s fully adjustable PC interface, the NovaLink™ (#5440).

Charlie 10-10-2009 12:40 AM

I just read the PDF D.L. Sounds like it has some sweet motor mixing in it so you can dial out the clod stall. Super Cool.

I'm going to Chicago for the I Hobby Expo in a couple weeks and will be trying to bring one of those bad boys home with me. WOot WOot.

NovakTwo 10-10-2009 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlie (Post 2038368)
I just read the PDF D.L. Sounds like it has some sweet motor mixing in it so you can dial out the clod stall. Super Cool.

I'm going to Chicago for the I Hobby Expo in a couple weeks and will be trying to bring one of those bad boys home with me. WOot WOot.

Charlie, we will try to get you a pre-production unit ASAP. So when you are in Chicago, you can answer all the M2 Dig questions.....:mrgreen:

Also, any more questions from forum members, use this thread as the "Official" M2 Dig comment thread.

docfire 10-10-2009 10:17 AM

Will it take 3s lipos?
When will it be released?
What will be the cost W/O motors, W/motors?
Does it have and internal BEC, if so what’s the voltage?
How big is it?
What turn motor will it accept 55t to ???

Flyin Hawaiian 10-10-2009 10:25 AM

Still only 2 cell. Nice try but ill stick with my Holmes hobbies BR-XL with 2-6 cell capability. Need to do more R&D because who will use dual motors with a 2 cell? Its 3 cell and up man

indiana mudcat 10-10-2009 02:15 PM

how about the novalink? will it work on other esc's (goat)

NovakTwo 10-11-2009 10:52 AM

Some of your questions are answered in our Press Release PDF linked from this page:

Novak's New M2 Dig System

When will it be released?
~ November
What will be the cost W/O motors, W/motors?
~ System "street price" 159.99
~ Dual ESC "street price" 149.99

Does it have and internal BEC, if so what’s the voltage?
~ 6 Volts/5 Amps
How big is it?
~ 1.16” x 1.47” (29.5 x 37.3 mm)
What turn motor will it accept 55t to ???
~ 27 T (540 size)

Quote:

Originally Posted by docfire (Post 2038720)
Will it take 3s lipos?
When will it be released?
What will be the cost W/O motors, W/motors?
Does it have and internal BEC, if so what’s the voltage?
How big is it?
What turn motor will it accept 55t to ???


NovakTwo 10-11-2009 10:57 AM

The M2Dig is the first of our upcoming controllers to offer the new NovaLink.

Quote:

Originally Posted by indiana mudcat (Post 2038974)
how about the novalink? will it work on other esc's (goat)


Charlie 10-11-2009 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NovakTwo (Post 2038543)
Charlie, we will try to get you a pre-production unit ASAP. So when you are in Chicago, you can answer all the M2 Dig questions.....:mrgreen:

Sweet!

indiana mudcat 10-11-2009 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NovakTwo (Post 2040209)
The M2Dig is the first of our upcoming controllers to offer the new NovaLink.

so can i hope for a 4s goat that has a drag brake at part throttle then? or continue to debate between a rx8 and mm pro

NovakTwo 10-11-2009 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by indiana mudcat (Post 2040312)
so can i hope for a 4s goat that has a drag brake at part throttle then? or continue to debate between a rx8 and mm pro

You can continue to debate for a while longer.....

oldhippie 10-11-2009 02:04 PM

I'm guessing it controls front and rear dig on the third/aux channel, But what does "independent biasing of the front and rear motors" mean? How does it work? There was some strange wording on proportional control your dig unit but it really is just a on/off dig switch. Is the same true here?

NovakTwo 10-11-2009 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldhippie (Post 2040427)
I'm guessing it controls front and rear dig on the third/aux channel, But what does "independent biasing of the front and rear motors" mean? How does it work? There was some strange wording on proportional control your dig unit but it really is just a on/off dig switch. Is the same true here?

I will ask one of our tech guys to offer a clearer description. I forwarded your question and I will post the response when I receive it.

Quote:

Dig Mode, which uses drag brake to create dig, and the completely original Proportional Dig Mode. Using the third channel on a three-channel surface receiver, Novak’s patent-pending proportional dig software allows drivers to fine tune the amount of power supplied to the individual motors. This innovative feature provides seemingly endless mixing between the vehicle’s two motors.

paintballer9876 10-11-2009 03:59 PM

I would buy one in a second but its only 2 cell lipo bump up to a 3cell and have a sale. I will stick with my mamba max until you can give the customer what they want.:-(

NovakTwo 10-12-2009 10:31 AM

From Steve:

The M2 Dig has two modes:

Mode 1 is a traditional on/off dig where power is removed completely from the
rear or front end wheels to effect the handling of the vehicle.

There are three states: Full time 4WD, 2WD Front/Rear Dig, 2WD Rear/Front Dig

Mode 2 is a pro proportional dig where the amount of power being applied to one
end or the other can be changed. You can still achieve full dig on either front
or rear axle, but you can get varying degrees of power applied to the front or
rear axle depending on the position of the auxiliary knob on the radio.



Quote:

Originally Posted by oldhippie (Post 2040427)
I'm guessing it controls front and rear dig on the third/aux channel, But what does "independent biasing of the front and rear motors" mean? How does it work? There was some strange wording on proportional control your dig unit but it really is just a on/off dig switch. Is the same true here?


hairba11 10-17-2009 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NovakTwo (Post 2041683)
From Steve:
but you can get varying degrees of power applied to the front or
rear axle depending on the position of the auxiliary knob on the radio.

so you need something With a knob on it like flap control on a stick radio or the dial on a 3PK? I guess it could be done with another programmable step control?

any chance of it surviving 3s lipo with an external BEC like the rooster kinda does?

droogin 10-17-2009 11:37 AM

Great idea. I have bean anticipating such a device. But it needs to handle 3s. I would have purchased one instantly if were 3s. I will stick with my punk dig for now. I will stay tuned.

Rockcrawler 10-17-2009 03:50 PM

These would have sold like crazy........if you could run it on 3s. :|


Come on Novak, get with it. Its almost 2010. ESC's have been able to handle 2s for a long time. If you want to make your big jump into the crawling world, now is the time. "thumbsup" Would be even better if it would handle at least 4s. :mrgreen:

EeePee 10-17-2009 03:55 PM

Here's what I'm thinking. Since their website says this,

Quote:

Motor Limit: 27-turn 540-sized dual brushed motors
What about putting two really nice ~30 turn motors in a Berg with a nice 2S lipo.

No external BEC, no dig switches, a small lipo...

Looks good in my head. Light weight. Should be quick enough.

I think I'm gonna try it.

Rockcrawler 10-17-2009 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EeePee (Post 2051356)
Here's what I'm thinking. Since their website says this,



What about putting two really nice ~30 turn motors in a Berg with a nice 2S lipo.

No external BEC, no dig switches, a small lipo...

Looks good in my head. Light weight. Should be quick enough.

I think I'm gonna try it.


Try it and see. I just remember what it was like when we were running 2s. Just didnt seem to be enough juice to jump up ledges or enough wheel speed. I do think we were running 45 and 55t motors.....I still dont think it will have enough umph.


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