Novak M2 Dig ESC Combo
 

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The M2 Dig ESC Combo (#1845) is one highly programmable, inexpensive package that will revolutionize the crawling industry. This first-of-its-kind, dual-motor compatible speed control – the M2 Dig Dual Brush ESC (#1846) – is combined with two Terra Claw Crawling Brush Motors – 55T (#3556) and independently controls the motors to perform dig maneuvers. In addition to standard digs, the M2 sports independent biasing of the front and rear motors to allow for precise maneuverability through tricky terrain, and exceptional control on steep inclines and downhill descents. Additionally, the M2 Dig ESC can be fine tuned via Novak’s fully adjustable PC interface, the NovaLink™ (#5440).

I just read the PDF D.L. Sounds like it has some sweet motor mixing in it so you can dial out the clod stall. Super Cool.

I'm going to Chicago for the I Hobby Expo in a couple weeks and will be trying to bring one of those bad boys home with me. WOot WOot.

Charlie, we will try to get you a pre-production unit ASAP. So when you are in Chicago, you can answer all the M2 Dig questions.....:mrgreen:

Also, any more questions from forum members, use this thread as the "Official" M2 Dig comment thread.

Will it take 3s lipos?
When will it be released?
What will be the cost W/O motors, W/motors?
Does it have and internal BEC, if so what’s the voltage?
How big is it?
What turn motor will it accept 55t to ???

Still only 2 cell. Nice try but ill stick with my Holmes hobbies BR-XL with 2-6 cell capability. Need to do more R&D because who will use dual motors with a 2 cell? Its 3 cell and up man

how about the novalink? will it work on other esc's (goat)

Some of your questions are answered in our Press Release PDF linked from this page:

Novak's New M2 Dig System

When will it be released?
~ November
What will be the cost W/O motors, W/motors?
~ System "street price" 159.99
~ Dual ESC "street price" 149.99
Does it have and internal BEC, if so what’s the voltage?
~ 6 Volts/5 Amps
How big is it?
~ 1.16” x 1.47” (29.5 x 37.3 mm)
What turn motor will it accept 55t to ???
~ 27 T (540 size)

The M2Dig is the first of our upcoming controllers to offer the new NovaLink.

Sweet!

so can i hope for a 4s goat that has a drag brake at part throttle then? or continue to debate between a rx8 and mm pro

You can continue to debate for a while longer.....

I'm guessing it controls front and rear dig on the third/aux channel, But what does "independent biasing of the front and rear motors" mean? How does it work? There was some strange wording on proportional control your dig unit but it really is just a on/off dig switch. Is the same true here?

I will ask one of our tech guys to offer a clearer description. I forwarded your question and I will post the response when I receive it.

I would buy one in a second but its only 2 cell lipo bump up to a 3cell and have a sale. I will stick with my mamba max until you can give the customer what they want.:-(

From Steve:

The M2 Dig has two modes:

Mode 1 is a traditional on/off dig where power is removed completely from the
rear or front end wheels to effect the handling of the vehicle.

There are three states: Full time 4WD, 2WD Front/Rear Dig, 2WD Rear/Front Dig

Mode 2 is a pro proportional dig where the amount of power being applied to one
end or the other can be changed. You can still achieve full dig on either front
or rear axle, but you can get varying degrees of power applied to the front or
rear axle depending on the position of the auxiliary knob on the radio.

so you need something With a knob on it like flap control on a stick radio or the dial on a 3PK? I guess it could be done with another programmable step control?

any chance of it surviving 3s lipo with an external BEC like the rooster kinda does?

Great idea. I have bean anticipating such a device. But it needs to handle 3s. I would have purchased one instantly if were 3s. I will stick with my punk dig for now. I will stay tuned.

These would have sold like crazy........if you could run it on 3s. :|


Come on Novak, get with it. Its almost 2010. ESC's have been able to handle 2s for a long time. If you want to make your big jump into the crawling world, now is the time. "thumbsup" Would be even better if it would handle at least 4s. :mrgreen:

Here's what I'm thinking. Since their website says this,

What about putting two really nice ~30 turn motors in a Berg with a nice 2S lipo.

No external BEC, no dig switches, a small lipo...

Looks good in my head. Light weight. Should be quick enough.

I think I'm gonna try it.

Try it and see. I just remember what it was like when we were running 2s. Just didnt seem to be enough juice to jump up ledges or enough wheel speed. I do think we were running 45 and 55t motors.....I still dont think it will have enough umph.

Yup, plus Novaks no hassle warranty im in...

However 3-6s would be a nice touch and pretty much corner esc's for a while...

Well that would be the HH new ESC"thumbsup"

We have tested the M2 on 3S and it worked fine. We will do some additional testing and update the specs with our findings.

What is the ETA? I see Amainhobbies posted it up on their site.

You get a response on on the "400" sized lower turn motors on 2 cell? I might go 3 cell and some 35t 540 sized.
Just have to see what shakes out with the specs. Cause I don't want to blow one up on 3s if the spec says 2cell and then not get it warrantied.

Shane I emailed the link to Bob, but he was not able to access the site. I will check again later today.

If we change the M2 spec to 3S, it will be "official" and the M2s would be covered by our warranty. We will be shipping the controller/system in November.

If this happens, then I think you have covered everything that somebody could want in an MOA ESC. "thumbsup"

except a decent drag brake and not just hold.

Website says 10 settings.

http://www.teamnovak.com/products/m2_combo/index.html

i assume thats really hold brake not drag brake, just like a my goat has 10 settings for drag brake but has none only hold. maybe i'm wrong, maybe they figured out we drive these things downhill to.

If these will do 3s, I might have to try one on my next rebuild. "thumbsup"

Got me interested for sure..

On a side note..I started a Novak social group..Come join up guys if you run novak products..Here's the link..
http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/group.php

Why only 55T motors in the combo kit? Or will there be other motors later on?

Having this, the rx, and a battery on the skid is just awesome...

I like the idea but novak needs to catch up. No one is running 2cells and 55t anymore. Minimum is 3cell, 45t and I'm thinking 5 cell, 20t isn't too far off:twisted:.

At this time, the system will be offered with 55T motors only. We also sell 45T motors separately.

We are testing the M2 on 3S packs. I will post updates here as available.

Cool thanks "thumbsup"

I may just buy it separate and then just pick up some new 35T motors...

Howdy Folks,

I had a chance to operate the M2Dig for 4 whole days while I was working the Novak Booth ath the I Hobby Expo last week.

While I didn't have a chance to get out on the rocks with it, here's how it works, and works well in my opinion.

You can use it just like an ESC/Dig Switch combo. So you have Front Rear Dig from a 3pos switch.

OR, you can use it to have F/R Dig, PLUS motor Biasing. You setup your radio with one 3Pos Switch to do the dig, and ONE switch as a Linear Trim Pot on the Aux Channel.

So you can Dial in more Clod Stall (IE Free Wheel), or Dial out Clod Stall completely while you drive. Basically, as you're driving you can tap the Linear Adjust switch to reduce power to F/R motor. If you loose count of how many "clicks" you put in, Simply DIg that same side On/Off and everything is back to normal again. It really is super easy to use.

Novak Two- I'm patiently waiting my very own M2Dig......

I like the sound of that, only thing holding me back right now it the 3S thing, other than that I am in... Did I miss it? Is there an internal BEC or external?

Novak just cannot see that most like 3S or some even 4S. This system sounds interesting and I would be interested in trying it out but not if I have to back down to 2S. I'll stick with Castle.

After reading all the specs. and seeing the video of it working at the hobbie show am really impressed with this new Novak Product, Being a Novak fan for over 5 years all my cars run on Novak. My only question is after looking at the specs I have the same question as pretty much everyone on here is this going to be a 2S or 3S system? I see no sence in only making it it 2S when you guys have already brought out a 2S-3S ESC. Here are specs for anyone that has not seen them and a Video of the system working on a Rig Enjoy.




Here is the Video Link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkXu5kVoTUI

3s for me here also. If you wanna sell it give us what we want"thumbsup"