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11-06-2009, 06:03 PM
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| Newbie Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Crawlerboro
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|  All I'm asking for is some brakes
All I want out of life right now, is a speedo that will hold my crawler on the downhills. I'm not hard to please. The Sidewinder or 'nobraker' speedo ain't cuttin it. All I want is a sure one time deal only speedo,that will hold a crawler on down hills.I don't want to download the new stuff castle has for their speedo's.I want a new speedo. Please tell me The Holmes, is sure thing when talking drag brakes. If it does its all mine. I do not see how anyone could possbly compete without good strong drag brakes.It takes all the fun out of crawling ,to me anyway. Last edited by Kamikaze; 11-06-2009 at 06:37 PM. Reason: This is not the wanted section |
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11-06-2009, 06:08 PM
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| Quarry Creeper  Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Casper
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Honestly I run ALOT of Sidewinder esc's in my stuff and I just downloded the new update last week. All I can say is I am very happy with the drag brake settings now!!  |
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11-06-2009, 06:26 PM
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| Quarry Creeper Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Southwest VA
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11-06-2009, 06:35 PM
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| I wanna be Dave Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Columbia TN
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What motor are you running? That has just as much to do with it as the esc. Also what truck and gearing? Last edited by Kamikaze; 11-06-2009 at 06:38 PM. | |
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11-06-2009, 07:12 PM
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| I wanna be Dave Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Centered
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The Holmes TM-BR will be programable with the updated Castle firmware and from what I hear, the drag has been significantly improved. Add to that the specific features and crazy limits that John put into it, and you've got a bad ass speedo. From a personal use standpoint, the Tekin FX-R has insane drag hold and great adjustability with the latest Hot Wire firmware. Some drivers have had issues with the Tekin, but the one I have in my Eclipse has been solid since day one. |
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11-07-2009, 05:45 AM
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| I wanna be Dave Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: 20 miles southeeast of downtown Sacramento
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The fxr has a great drag brake, but I'd sure try the sidewinder download before getting a new esc. A better motor may also help. I hated my sidewinder drag until I put puller on my rig.  |
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11-07-2009, 07:22 AM
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| I wanna be Dave Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: spring hill TN
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The motor has just as much to do with it as the ESC. My wifes Berg with cheap lathe motors and a sidewinder does not hold that well but the new Castle download helped. My rig with Holmes handwounds and a Sidewinder will stop on a dime. | |
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11-07-2009, 07:25 AM
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| I wanna be Dave Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Golden
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I had a similar problem with stock 55t axial motors, the sidewinder wouldn't stop it from rolling down the hill because the motor was the problem. Now even with a cheapo 45T integy, it holds a lot better with the new software. To the point that I no longer wish to get a new ESC. Try the update, and look at getting a better motor, or maybe just new springs for the motor. |
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11-07-2009, 08:41 AM
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| Quarry Creeper Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Near my tools
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Now new castlelink 3.19 has drag brake at 128% for sidewinder I'm just using at 50% though and it's enough for me. Maybe I give a try at 128% tomorrow. hopefully it doesn't flip when i let off my throttle lol |
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11-07-2009, 08:46 AM
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| RCC Addict Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Token's life matters
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| FXR Done deal. If you want it to hold on a hill there is only one FXR If you want one that even at 128% does not hold as well as the fxr at 40% then try something else. Otherwise FXR |
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11-07-2009, 09:24 AM
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| I wanna be Dave Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Columbia TN
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If you want to let out the magic smoke! | |
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11-07-2009, 09:31 AM
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| RCC Addict Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Mount Juliet
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The Sidewinder v3.19 upgrade seems to be the ticket that so many of us have been waiting for. I have been testing on the incline board here and really like the improvement that the 128% drag brake is providing. NEXT weekend I have a local comp, and will put it to the test on the rocks. That all being said, the Sidewinders have been SOLID performers in my rigs, and have had no real issues. They just perform, and do not have the "magic smoke" issues. I just had a pal PM & Call me last night regarding his FXR issues (burned up)....I will keep my Sidewinders that Castle just keeps on supporting/improving. EDIT: IF I had to buy a new ESC today, it would be the Holmes ESC. From the COST perspective, the Holmes at <$100 is so close in price to a Sidewinder ($70) and BEC ($20) that the added benfits of the Holmes ESC makes up the $10 difference EASILY. (Castle Link Compatability, High Amperage, 6cell support, Internal STRONG BEC). Last edited by xirtic; 11-07-2009 at 09:40 AM. |
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11-07-2009, 09:49 AM
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| Rock Crawler Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: CoMo...Kickin it with Holmes Hobbies
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go to Holmes Hobbies buy the BR-XL(currently out of stock but will be avalible shortly) and a new torque master motor!!!!! you wont be disappointed |
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11-07-2009, 12:59 PM
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| RCC Addict Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: BV
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If all you want is a strong drag brake, get a brushless outrunner motor and hook it up to your sidewinder. The drag brake on those things is very, very strong and they sound like R2-D2 with a cold! Or get a rooster crawler and enjoy the smooth start up (about the same as the outrunner) Or you could just install the new software on the sidewinder. All a really strong drag brake is gonna do is to make your truck flip over when you try to stop going down a hill. |
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11-07-2009, 01:18 PM
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| I wanna be Dave Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: EvilCrawlerDesigns@comcast.net
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If you get a good motor, the drag brake will come...even with the old software on the Sidewinder. When I still ran an Axial, I went from barely being able to hold on a hill with a 45t lathe to having to be easy when releasing the throttle with a HH crawlmaster brushless, to just about flipping over frontward on level ground with a 10t Cobalt Puller motor. Now I run dual FXR's (due to the small size) on Tekin Handwound 35t motors, and it never lets go on drag. |
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11-07-2009, 01:28 PM
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| TEAM MODERATOR   Join Date: May 2004 Location: Tennessee
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I never understood the need in having a brake that locks the tires down. Watch the lines and prepare for them. Also,front dig can be used for things besides turning around.  Front dig going down hill works amazingly well for a brake.Cheap lathe motors will have a considerably weaker brake than GOOD handwounds. The new Holmes ESC is great. A Castle ESC with the newest update will be great as well. I really don't see what all the fuss is about though,The Mamba Max I run in my Berg hasn't been updated in 2 years and the brakes work just fine. | |
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11-07-2009, 04:59 PM
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| I wanna be Dave Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: EvilCrawlerDesigns@comcast.net
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I also really dislike using dig for going down hill. It's just personal preference, but a good drag brake & 4wd works better (for me) than trying to pull the rear down hill in dig. | |
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11-07-2009, 05:49 PM
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| TEAM MODERATOR Join Date: May 2004 Location: Tennessee
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Going up hill,instead of letting off,learn to feather the throttle. Feathering the throttle can help in more ways than just going up hill as well. Using front dig going down hill will help in 2 ways. The rear tires are slowing you down for one. Also,like any other time you use dig,it pulls the truck lower to the ground. Being lower to the ground going down hill,your less likely to flip. Not arguing,just a few reasons why I feel a lighter brake can be very effective in many ways. | |
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11-08-2009, 08:27 PM
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| Newbie Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Crawlerboro
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ok ok ok, so my ass was working in conjunction with my brain, the day I started this thread.  mrgreen:I found a 19T motor I had from my old pancar racing days with really strong magnets in it.I cut the com, soldered up some soft compound brushes,and installed some purple springs, and put the 55T arm in the 19t can. The Sidewinder now has drag brakes.What a difference.When I download the new stuff into it,I think I will be all grins n giggles  ...Sorry Castle for ranting ...Your products are worth every penny... My next purchase will prolly be the, Holmes 55T handwound,as soon as I can pry my foot out of my mouth.. jimmy.p. 'just living and learning' |
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11-09-2009, 12:06 AM
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| RCC Addict Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: BV
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Good to hear there are still "build it" newbs around. The tinkering/building aspect of crawling is the best part As for the drag brake, it's a toss up. I've had weak brakes, strong brakes and it all really comes down to finding a spot that works for you and getting used to it. If you have strong brakes you have to adjust your driving style and let off the throttle easy to prevent rollovers, if you have weak brakes you need to feather the throttle to compensate. Not switching back and forth is the best advise I can give. | |
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