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Harley · 10-27-2010, 02:22 PM

Finally, after so many months of development it finally arrived today.

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I will be using this thread to help you all get the most out of the new addition from Futaba. I will be posting step by step instructions including video guides as well as wiring help to get your crawlers running with the new system.

Differences between the 4PL and 4PK

The digs are actuated different (with or without an update).
Response time on the FHSS system is slower than the FASST system.
4PL only has one program mix (not including the 4WS or Dual ESC).
Wheel and buttons are non-adjustable and you can't use a drop down like the 4PK.
4PL uses 4AA's as opposed to the 4PK requiring 5 cells.
RX cost is about half the cost for the 4PL.

Links to Important Posts:
Video Showing Basics of the 4PL
4PL Dual ESC Programming <--Updated 12/09/2010
How to program a 3 position switch
Super Class Crawler
Compatible RX's and Voltages
Picture comparison of RX's
Differences in compatible RX's
How to have your radio updated - For those who do not have the latest dual ESC programming
Range Comparison test by Killer RC

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73bronco · 10-27-2010, 04:17 PM

Awesome! My XR just showed up today....When will this be shipping?!?!?

run2jeepn · 10-27-2010, 04:26 PM

Can we get a list of RX that work with the 4PL?

SMR 510RR · 10-27-2010, 04:43 PM

Full list of features?

Krakker · 10-27-2010, 04:45 PM

I like that my 3PK's can work with a spectrum module. It would be great if these would too.
Look forward to the write up on this one Josh, I"ve been wanting a new system that'll run the crawlers AND the summit with some more control.

sim · 10-27-2010, 06:12 PM

The 4PL doesn't use modules.

Harley · 10-27-2010, 06:36 PM

Rootar · 10-27-2010, 08:15 PM

if they would make a 4pk or 4pl that took a module i think alot of guys who have say 10+ specktrum rxs like me in all their cars would snatch up a new TX in a heartbeat .

but i gotta say that 4pl looks good!

KBrog · 10-27-2010, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Harley0706

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strawb · 10-27-2010, 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rootar

if they would make a 4pk or 4pl that took a module i think alot of guys who have say 10+ specktrum rxs like me in all their cars would snatch up a new TX in a heartbeat .

but i gotta say that 4pl looks good!

same reason why im still keeping my 3pk .... maybe someday

Harley · 10-27-2010, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Rootar

if they would make a 4pk or 4pl that took a module i think alot of guys who have say 10+ specktrum rxs like me in all their cars would snatch up a new TX in a heartbeat .

but i gotta say that 4pl looks good!

I have never had problems with losing bind on a Futaba RX and had it happen countless times with the spektrum stuff. I know lots of drivers that switched for that reason alone. There is never a single thing I miss about running Spektrum

Harley · 10-27-2010, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by KBrog

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How about this one

dragrcr · 10-28-2010, 12:22 AM

Yes! When will they hit the shelves, my money is literally leaping out of my wallet in anticipation...

boosted4lyf · 10-28-2010, 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Harley0706

How about this one

Lucky bastard

Those ssz-9's look sick Harley seriously wanting this tx

DeweyCJ5 · 10-28-2010, 02:34 AM

guess its time for my boy to get my old radio

jdawg53 · 10-28-2010, 08:42 AM

The receiver that comes with the 4PL is a "high voltage" receiver. It will safely handle up to 8.5V.
J

Aussie Nerd · 10-28-2010, 04:45 PM

Just a few question, if you answer yes to all 3 of these futaba will be getting my business.

1. Please, please futaba fix the dig switch bug

2. Harley, can you adjust the mix percentage for dual ESC with out going into the menu, like on a rocker switch or dial or something?

3. Can you have dual ESC AND rear steer mixes activated at the same time (super?)?

Thanks

Kieren

Harley · 10-28-2010, 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aussie Nerd

Just a few question, if you answer yes to all 3 of these futaba will be getting my business.

1. Please, please futaba fix the dig switch bug

2. Harley, can you adjust the mix percentage for dual ESC with out going into the menu, like on a rocker switch or dial or something?

3. Can you have dual ESC AND rear steer mixes activated at the same time (super?)?

Thanks

Kieren

#1 - I hope so too.

#2 - Yes you can assign any DT button to adjust the percentage. You can even set the amount you want it to adjust per click, any where from 2%-20% (or more but any more adjustment at a time then that is way too much).

#3 - You can't use the Futaba 4WS mixing but most people that run a super want independant control of the rear which this is still capable of doing (exactly like a 4PK).

Aussie Nerd · 10-28-2010, 04:56 PM

1. Awesome

2. Even more Awesome

3. Sounds good, just how do you control it though, is it on a rocker switch somewhere? And can you set it in steps?

Thanks

Kieren

EvilTwin v2 · 10-28-2010, 04:59 PM

Yeah, I've been competing in Super for 3 years now, and early on, when I thought I needed steering mix, all it ever did was screw me on the course. Rear steer mix is totally unnecessary.

My question. Does it use seperate dig switches like the 4pk or is it a single switch? I thought I saw something about a single button that toggles through. I'm curious how effective that would be. I can see that it would be simple, but not sure if it would get confusing or be really really easy to use.

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10-27-2010, 02:22 PM	#1
Harley 20K Club Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Sending illegals home one Hayabusa at a time. Posts: 22,981	Futaba 4PL Setup, Tips, Tricks & Help Finally, after so many months of development it finally arrived today. I will be using this thread to help you all get the most out of the new addition from Futaba. I will be posting step by step instructions including video guides as well as wiring help to get your crawlers running with the new system. Differences between the 4PL and 4PK The digs are actuated different (with or without an update). Response time on the FHSS system is slower than the FASST system. 4PL only has one program mix (not including the 4WS or Dual ESC). Wheel and buttons are non-adjustable and you can't use a drop down like the 4PK. 4PL uses 4AA's as opposed to the 4PK requiring 5 cells. RX cost is about half the cost for the 4PL. Links to Important Posts: Video Showing Basics of the 4PL 4PL Dual ESC Programming <--Updated 12/09/2010 How to program a 3 position switch Super Class Crawler Compatible RX's and Voltages Picture comparison of RX's Differences in compatible RX's How to have your radio updated - For those who do not have the latest dual ESC programming Range Comparison test by Killer RC . Last edited by Harley; 08-08-2011 at 07:50 AM.

10-27-2010, 04:17 PM	#2
73bronco Pebble Pounder Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Arvada Posts: 185	Awesome! My XR just showed up today....When will this be shipping?!?!?

10-27-2010, 04:26 PM	#3
run2jeepn I wanna be Dave Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: USA Posts: 11,196	Can we get a list of RX that work with the 4PL?

10-27-2010, 04:43 PM	#4
SMR 510RR I wanna be Dave Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: San Francisco Posts: 2,236	Full list of features?

10-27-2010, 04:45 PM	#5
Krakker I wanna be Dave Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Where freedom is earned. Posts: 2,011	I like that my 3PK's can work with a spectrum module. It would be great if these would too. Look forward to the write up on this one Josh, I"ve been wanting a new system that'll run the crawlers AND the summit with some more control.

10-27-2010, 06:12 PM	#6
sim Quarry Creeper Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Malaysia Posts: 374	The 4PL doesn't use modules.

10-27-2010, 06:36 PM	#7
Harley 20K Club Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Sending illegals home one Hayabusa at a time. Posts: 22,981

10-27-2010, 08:15 PM	#8
Rootar Rock Crawler Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Little Rock, AR Posts: 596	if they would make a 4pk or 4pl that took a module i think alot of guys who have say 10+ specktrum rxs like me in all their cars would snatch up a new TX in a heartbeat . but i gotta say that 4pl looks good!

10-28-2010, 12:22 AM	#13
dragrcr Quarry Creeper Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: GV Posts: 286	Yes! When will they hit the shelves, my money is literally leaping out of my wallet in anticipation...

10-28-2010, 02:34 AM	#15
DeweyCJ5 Rock Crawler Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy Posts: 901	guess its time for my boy to get my old radio

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10-28-2010, 08:42 AM	#16
jdawg53 Rock Crawler Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 809	The receiver that comes with the 4PL is a "high voltage" receiver. It will safely handle up to 8.5V. J

10-28-2010, 04:45 PM	#17
Aussie Nerd RCC Addict Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: QLD, Australia Posts: 1,512	Just a few question, if you answer yes to all 3 of these futaba will be getting my business. 1. Please, please futaba fix the dig switch bug 2. Harley, can you adjust the mix percentage for dual ESC with out going into the menu, like on a rocker switch or dial or something? 3. Can you have dual ESC AND rear steer mixes activated at the same time (super?)? Thanks Kieren

10-28-2010, 04:56 PM	#19
Aussie Nerd RCC Addict Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: QLD, Australia Posts: 1,512	1. Awesome 2. Even more Awesome 3. Sounds good, just how do you control it though, is it on a rocker switch somewhere? And can you set it in steps? Thanks Kieren

10-28-2010, 04:59 PM	#20
EvilTwin v2 I wanna be Dave Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: EvilCrawlerDesigns@comcast.net Posts: 3,510	Yeah, I've been competing in Super for 3 years now, and early on, when I thought I needed steering mix, all it ever did was screw me on the course. Rear steer mix is totally unnecessary. My question. Does it use seperate dig switches like the 4pk or is it a single switch? I thought I saw something about a single button that toggles through. I'm curious how effective that would be. I can see that it would be simple, but not sure if it would get confusing or be really really easy to use.

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