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alexchen86 · 06-30-2011, 06:10 AM

Okay...I think I've given up on my Spektrum DX3s. Its seen better days. I'll keep it for my bashers where I don't have to constantly adjust settings.

All my rigs run off Spektrum RX's....in the future I'm going MOA obivously so the first thing I'm going to do is invest in a high quality transmitter.

Seems like most people in my club recommend a DX3R...how does that stack up against the new DX3R Pro? Same 3 position 3rd channel?

Stormin2u · 06-30-2011, 07:42 AM

I've been a DX3R user for a long time and like you have all my stuff set up with Spektrum receivers. The game changed for me when I was the lucky winner of a TEDROCKZ 4PL giveaway, Thanks again Steve.

The 4PL IMO is heads and shoulders better than the DX3R, it has a better agronomic feel in the hand, switches are more convenient, it's easier to use and set up but here's real the killer, it just works better, it seems smother with more control. You can find them on line for $199 and at that price it's a real deal.

I'll have my DX3R and recievers for sale soon.

bpd964 · 06-30-2011, 08:42 AM

4PK or 4PL.. has many functions that are "crawler" friendly..

jeepcj776 · 06-30-2011, 09:26 AM

4pl

Tommy R · 06-30-2011, 09:44 AM

4PL. It's a pricey transition when you consider all the receivers you may need to fully convert over, but it's worth it to me. I really like the idea of 4 channels for scalers, too.

greencrawler · 06-30-2011, 07:26 PM

I am also looking into new radio options. I currently running a DX3R and it has given me good service but I feel thats its time for a better radio with more moa options and the 4pl is what I have been looking at, I was told this radio is very user friendly.

TexasSP · 06-30-2011, 08:32 PM

Alex, it's worth getting the 4PL and it's what I use on my XR. The best thing about it for MOA is it does servo mixing and Harley makes it so easy anyone can do it. None of the spektrums to my knowledge can do what the 4PL can especially for the price. Get you another TX on the cheap to run your other stuff and the 4PL for the comp rig. You won't regret it.

losikid · 06-30-2011, 10:17 PM

If you have a tight budget in mind. A Fkysky GT3B with a new firmware can do dual esc's very easily and alot more. Its not as friendly as the 4pl to program, or as comfortable radio, but a gt3b and my kit cost less than $70 and additional rx's only cost like $10 each at hobbypartz. And you don't have to be afraid to hand someone your radio because its not expensive to replace if they go oops...only have to buy the programming kit once...

But yea dual esc's, 4ws, up to 8 channels, there's (2) 3 pos switches, and (2) 3 pos type switches (two push buttons) then the single 2 pos buttons can be programmed for multi positions up to 8 positions, all channels have trim, epa's etc.

This radio is very capable, and if it can't do something, well if you ask and give it some time chances are it'll be able to do it with a firmware change.

Don't get me wrong the 4pl is a great radio, and since its came out its been the choice for dual esc crowd because its one of the cheaper radios thats capable to do it and harley gives great support. But i have quite abit of time and money into flysky stuff (ct6 (a and b), 9x, and now the gt3b. I've put quite abit of time into getting the code developer for it to get dual esc integrated nicely into the radio, along with 3 pos capabilities and its turning out real nice, and i'm hoping it'll give the 4pl a run for its money.

alexchen86 · 07-01-2011, 06:41 AM

Wow the 4PL sure is at a pretty price sitting around $200 versus the DX3R Pro at another $100 more.

Yeah Tommy I agree 4 channels is bad ass especially running other stuff on scalers.

Well think I know my next purchase then!

Harley · 07-01-2011, 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexchen86

Wow the 4PL sure is at a pretty price sitting around $200 versus the DX3R Pro at another $100 more.

Yeah Tommy I agree 4 channels is bad ass especially running other stuff on scalers.

Well think I know my next purchase then!

If you need any help with anything on it just post up in my 4PL thread and I'll be happy to help you out

Frozen W. · 07-01-2011, 08:44 AM

dx3R(also the pro,is practically the same radio,with the drop down and the light on the display,3 position 3rd ch)
or the Dx3C

AreCee · 07-01-2011, 10:03 AM

I was going to use my DX3R with my MOA until I found out that you can't mix the throttle and auxillary channels.

You can get an adapter from Losikid but that wasn't a good answer.

Luckily I still have my Futaba 3PKS with the Spektrum Module. It controls everything like the 4PL does and allows me to use all my Spektrum receivers (I have a dozen of them). It is just missing the fourth channel.

I'm sure that you can get one at a very reasonable price (about $100).

TexasSP · 07-01-2011, 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexchen86

Wow the 4PL sure is at a pretty price sitting around $200 versus the DX3R Pro at another $100 more.

Yeah Tommy I agree 4 channels is bad ass especially running other stuff on scalers.

Well think I know my next purchase then!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harley

If you need any help with anything on it just post up in my 4PL thread and I'll be happy to help you out

See, you can't go wrong. Harley can probably even tell you how to get it to cook dinner for you if you ask nicely.

The flysky GT3B is a decent radio for the price but I would not use it as my main comp radio at all. To me it's more of a budget scaler type radio that you carry and don't freak out if something happens to it. It is also not going to be as smooth as the 4PL.

losikid · 07-01-2011, 08:09 PM

I don't think the actual smoothness/resolution of the channels is noticeable in a crawler, unless throttle curves or expo is heavily used...unless your talking about the actual movement of the st wheel and trigger. If you are then its real easy to add bearings.

But yes i do agree it is a budget radio, as in the quality of parts used, but capability wise, it can do just about anything you want it to. If someone already has a 4pl or a 4pk, i wouldn't suggest selling it for a gt3b, unless they need more ch's. But for anyone getting into the hobby, or has alot of rc cars the gt3b is a real cheap alternative compared to the futabas, tx and rx wise and it doesn't suffer in the ability todo stuff...it just lacks comfort and ease of use features.

I'm not trying to push the gt3b, but its been out for awhile now so i'm trying to bring to light how it can easily be converted to be able to do anything you want it to do...my only complaint about the radio is the trigger is like a 80/20 setup so reverse is abit touchy.

MarkXV · 07-03-2011, 12:26 AM

I'm currently also choosing a new radio and i' m tempted by the sanwa/airtronics mt-4. It is probably in the same league with the 4pl. I like the design a lot better with the integrated antenna ( seams difficult to break). It has specific crawler modes in programming for 4ws or moa.
Unfortunatelly i haven't found much information on it. Maybe there is someone who can comment why it is so seldom used?

Rok Krawl · 07-03-2011, 02:29 AM

I eventually need to get a new 4 channel radio for crawling. Since I have run airtronics I would love to stick with it and get the M11 4 channel version if it works with MOA crawlers.

If not then I too would get the 4PL.

TexasSP · 07-03-2011, 09:09 AM

I haven't seen much on the MT-4 but being airtronics I am sure it is fine. I looked at them along with the 4PL and went with the 4PL since it was so user friendly and had some features the MT-4 did not. I do not recall what all those were at this point though. The second factor helping me decide was the massive thread Harley has on the 4PL and how much support it get's here on RCC.

Charlie-III · 07-03-2011, 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkXV

I'm currently also choosing a new radio and I'm tempted by the Sanwa/Airtronics MT-4. It is probably in the same league with the 4pl. I like the design a lot better with the integrated antenna (seems difficult to break). It also has specific crawler modes in programming for 4ws or moa.
Unfortunatelly I haven't found much information on it. Maybe there is someone who can comment why it is so seldom used?

I know a guy in our club went to the MT-4 over the 4PL because he has smallish hands. The MT-4 just fits him better. Otherwise, he seems happy with it.
We are a Futaba household here, I run a 3PM-x & my son runs a 4PL. We both have 2.2 Bullys with dual ESC's (I use a WannAmix on my 3 channel).

tanner331 · 08-07-2011, 12:38 PM

I use a airitronics MX-sport 3. It is a great radio. Have you considered a radio like the Airtronics MX-3X. Here is their site http://www.airtronics.net/
I like them because they are good radios and are a lot lower cost then other companies. And some of the Airtronics have over a 1000ft range.
Tanner

06-30-2011, 06:10 AM	#1
alexchen86 I wanna be Dave Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Houston Posts: 2,004	Looking for a New Radio! Okay...I think I've given up on my Spektrum DX3s. Its seen better days. I'll keep it for my bashers where I don't have to constantly adjust settings. All my rigs run off Spektrum RX's....in the future I'm going MOA obivously so the first thing I'm going to do is invest in a high quality transmitter. Seems like most people in my club recommend a DX3R...how does that stack up against the new DX3R Pro? Same 3 position 3rd channel?

07-01-2011, 10:03 AM	#12
AreCee RCC Addict Join Date: May 2008 Location: Chicago/Bloomington Posts: 1,505	I was going to use my DX3R with my MOA until I found out that you can't mix the throttle and auxillary channels. You can get an adapter from Losikid but that wasn't a good answer. Luckily I still have my Futaba 3PKS with the Spektrum Module. It controls everything like the 4PL does and allows me to use all my Spektrum receivers (I have a dozen of them). It is just missing the fourth channel. I'm sure that you can get one at a very reasonable price (about $100). Last edited by AreCee; 07-01-2011 at 11:03 AM.

07-03-2011, 12:26 AM	#15
MarkXV Newbie Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Germany Posts: 4	Mt-4 I'm currently also choosing a new radio and i' m tempted by the sanwa/airtronics mt-4. It is probably in the same league with the 4pl. I like the design a lot better with the integrated antenna ( seams difficult to break). It has specific crawler modes in programming for 4ws or moa. Unfortunatelly i haven't found much information on it. Maybe there is someone who can comment why it is so seldom used?

06-30-2011, 07:42 AM	#2
Stormin2u I wanna be Dave Join Date: May 2007 Location: Taylors Falls just hanging with the MNRCRC crew. Posts: 7,843	I've been a DX3R user for a long time and like you have all my stuff set up with Spektrum receivers. The game changed for me when I was the lucky winner of a TEDROCKZ 4PL giveaway, Thanks again Steve. The 4PL IMO is heads and shoulders better than the DX3R, it has a better agronomic feel in the hand, switches are more convenient, it's easier to use and set up but here's real the killer, it just works better, it seems smother with more control. You can find them on line for $199 and at that price it's a real deal. I'll have my DX3R and recievers for sale soon.

06-30-2011, 08:42 AM	#3
bpd964 Quarry Creeper Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Bridgeport, CT Posts: 280	4PK or 4PL.. has many functions that are "crawler" friendly..

06-30-2011, 09:26 AM	#4
jeepcj776 Pebble Pounder Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Belle Fourche Posts: 172	4pl

06-30-2011, 09:44 AM	#5
Tommy R I wanna be Dave Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Austin, TX, USA Posts: 4,273	4PL. It's a pricey transition when you consider all the receivers you may need to fully convert over, but it's worth it to me. I really like the idea of 4 channels for scalers, too.

06-30-2011, 07:26 PM	#6
greencrawler Rock Crawler Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Etowah Posts: 668	I am also looking into new radio options. I currently running a DX3R and it has given me good service but I feel thats its time for a better radio with more moa options and the 4pl is what I have been looking at, I was told this radio is very user friendly.

06-30-2011, 08:32 PM	#7
TexasSP RCC Addict Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Tyler, TX Posts: 1,619	Alex, it's worth getting the 4PL and it's what I use on my XR. The best thing about it for MOA is it does servo mixing and Harley makes it so easy anyone can do it. None of the spektrums to my knowledge can do what the 4PL can especially for the price. Get you another TX on the cheap to run your other stuff and the 4PL for the comp rig. You won't regret it.

06-30-2011, 10:17 PM	#8
losikid Got Worms? Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Golden, CO Posts: 6,116	If you have a tight budget in mind. A Fkysky GT3B with a new firmware can do dual esc's very easily and alot more. Its not as friendly as the 4pl to program, or as comfortable radio, but a gt3b and my kit cost less than $70 and additional rx's only cost like $10 each at hobbypartz. And you don't have to be afraid to hand someone your radio because its not expensive to replace if they go oops...only have to buy the programming kit once... But yea dual esc's, 4ws, up to 8 channels, there's (2) 3 pos switches, and (2) 3 pos type switches (two push buttons) then the single 2 pos buttons can be programmed for multi positions up to 8 positions, all channels have trim, epa's etc. This radio is very capable, and if it can't do something, well if you ask and give it some time chances are it'll be able to do it with a firmware change. Don't get me wrong the 4pl is a great radio, and since its came out its been the choice for dual esc crowd because its one of the cheaper radios thats capable to do it and harley gives great support. But i have quite abit of time and money into flysky stuff (ct6 (a and b), 9x, and now the gt3b. I've put quite abit of time into getting the code developer for it to get dual esc integrated nicely into the radio, along with 3 pos capabilities and its turning out real nice, and i'm hoping it'll give the 4pl a run for its money.

07-01-2011, 06:41 AM	#9
alexchen86 I wanna be Dave Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Houston Posts: 2,004	Wow the 4PL sure is at a pretty price sitting around $200 versus the DX3R Pro at another $100 more. Yeah Tommy I agree 4 channels is bad ass especially running other stuff on scalers. Well think I know my next purchase then!

07-01-2011, 08:44 AM	#11
Frozen W. Rock Stacker Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Rome,Italy Posts: 90	dx3R(also the pro,is practically the same radio,with the drop down and the light on the display,3 position 3rd ch) or the Dx3C

07-01-2011, 08:09 PM	#14
losikid Got Worms? Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Golden, CO Posts: 6,116	I don't think the actual smoothness/resolution of the channels is noticeable in a crawler, unless throttle curves or expo is heavily used...unless your talking about the actual movement of the st wheel and trigger. If you are then its real easy to add bearings. But yes i do agree it is a budget radio, as in the quality of parts used, but capability wise, it can do just about anything you want it to. If someone already has a 4pl or a 4pk, i wouldn't suggest selling it for a gt3b, unless they need more ch's. But for anyone getting into the hobby, or has alot of rc cars the gt3b is a real cheap alternative compared to the futabas, tx and rx wise and it doesn't suffer in the ability todo stuff...it just lacks comfort and ease of use features. I'm not trying to push the gt3b, but its been out for awhile now so i'm trying to bring to light how it can easily be converted to be able to do anything you want it to do...my only complaint about the radio is the trigger is like a 80/20 setup so reverse is abit touchy.

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07-03-2011, 02:29 AM	#16
Rok Krawl Pebble Pounder Join Date: May 2011 Location: Spring Posts: 117	I eventually need to get a new 4 channel radio for crawling. Since I have run airtronics I would love to stick with it and get the M11 4 channel version if it works with MOA crawlers. If not then I too would get the 4PL.

07-03-2011, 09:09 AM	#17
TexasSP RCC Addict Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Tyler, TX Posts: 1,619	I haven't seen much on the MT-4 but being airtronics I am sure it is fine. I looked at them along with the 4PL and went with the 4PL since it was so user friendly and had some features the MT-4 did not. I do not recall what all those were at this point though. The second factor helping me decide was the massive thread Harley has on the 4PL and how much support it get's here on RCC.

08-07-2011, 12:38 PM	#19
tanner331 Newbie Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Kenai Posts: 3	I use a airitronics MX-sport 3. It is a great radio. Have you considered a radio like the Airtronics MX-3X. Here is their site http://www.airtronics.net/ I like them because they are good radios and are a lot lower cost then other companies. And some of the Airtronics have over a 1000ft range. Tanner

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