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Old 09-14-2011, 01:38 PM   #1
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I have a pile of low turn brushed motors, and I don't have a real need for any fast brushed motors. I'm wondering if they are worth anything to sell, or how to tell if the cans and end bells would be of any value for me to use with one of our vendors crawler/scaler specific hand wound armatures.

Here's a couple pics. What I know about them, from top left to bottom right:

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P94 9x2
P94 10x1
P94 9x2
p94 6x1
Orion revolution unknown turns
Orion Julia steenari 10x1
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You could certainly add a proper turn armature in them and get the speed you want. Those are all good teardowns.
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Are you selling your new crawlmaster pro armatures? I see the torquemaster pro's on your site. How involved is slapping a different armature in one of these? I assume there's be some shimming involved, and I'd also probably want heavier springs that what these likely have.
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Also, is there any possible way to guess how many turns an armature is by looking at it? I ask mostly because I have a handfull of integy motors with the labels scraped off. You probably need a dyno to see what rpm they turn at a given voltage to even guess.
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How involved is slapping a different armature in one of these?
thats easy

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I'll give you $5 shipped priority with tracking for the whole lot
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I'll give you $5 shipped priority with tracking for the whole lot
C'mon now. That's far too generous. I wouldn't know what to do with a whole 5 dollars.
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C'mon now. That's far too generous. I wouldn't know what to do with a whole 5 dollars.
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Are you selling your new crawlmaster pro armatures? I see the torquemaster pro's on your site. How involved is slapping a different armature in one of these? I assume there's be some shimming involved, and I'd also probably want heavier springs that what these likely have.
just shimming them, new brushes, springs, and break them in and they'd be awesome motors!
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Good stuff...pretty much all of them have fb9 magnets, though the speedgems I think are an fb5....

Looks like someone swapped the v2 endbell for a KR endbell on one...

As for arms, pretty any 7.5mm 3 segment is gonna fit. 9mm comm stuff will fit in a few of them. 10mm comm will be not likely on most....

The 5 segment arms will work in some, though I don't recommend them in anything with a laydown, p94 or checkpoint brush. While there is clearance initially for the p94 and cp, as the comm gets smaller yer gonna get overlap that hits 3 comm segments at once....bad news on a 5 segment unless you like a toasty armature.

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After 45 min of googling, I'm gonna go with the 10x2 Orion as having a KR vs a V2 endbell. Pass or fail??

So of all these, is there one motor or combo of can/endbells that one would pick to use with a good scaler hand wound armature?

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I would stick with a stand-up hood 1st, laydown hood 2nd, CP hood (oval brush on an angle) 3rd.

My opinion, YMMV.
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I would stick with a stand-up hood 1st, laydown hood 2nd, CP hood (oval brush on an angle) 3rd.

My opinion, YMMV.
Am I correct that all above motors are lay down brushes, except the V2's? What about that funky cobalt with oval brushes that aren't at an angle?

Found this speedworks green machine pro, too. Stand up brushes, right?

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That's a laydown hood.

62 watts... pfffff
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Yeah, I was just reading my post and realize I had them backwards
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CP brushes are not at an angle. The cobalt 2 uses the oval elipse brush.

62 watts for a green machine is pretty normal.....thats on a fantom. Translates to about 122 or so on a turbo dyno at 7 volts.

Green machine would work fine in a scaler or shafty....

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