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Old 09-17-2011, 05:31 PM   #1
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Will a good radio(4PK,4PKS,Etc..) control Drag brake or is it ESC programming/Specific? Thanks. Just trying to figure out what to get for a XR10 build without braking the bank...
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Old 09-17-2011, 05:54 PM   #2
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You might consider looking at the 4pl, it's half the price and will probally do what you want. And as for the drag brake, that is ussually in the esc setup on most good esc's.
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I'm actually planning on losikids hacked gt3b radio. Can't beat the price and read good things. Just wondering if I can skimp a little on the escs. But probably not.

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No, the esc is responsible for the drag brake...

Most ESC's have this feature unless its a plane or heli esc.
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No, the esc is responsible for the drag brake...

Most ESC's have this feature unless its a plane or heli esc.
+1, drag brake is mostly a ESC function, pinion mesh and/or brush spring tension is the rest.
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will any crawler ESC work? I understand everyone has there opinion on which they like. But technically any crawler ESC should work in a dual setup? obviously has to match the motors(brushed/brushless) i know ive been asking a lot of questions, just want to get it right the first time. not like i did on my first crawler which i hated. always fixing something cause of cheap parts. thanks alot for your help...

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Old 09-18-2011, 01:17 AM   #7
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As long as the ESC is up to running whatever motor you are going to be using then you are good. ESC's often have a limit on what turn motor they will run but that typically isnt an issue with crawlers as we tend to run higher tun motors than everyone else (For example if the limit is 19t then it will run a 19T and higher motor).

I would recommend staying with one of the major manufactures, you will end up with a better ESC and if anything goes wrong with it you will get better support.

You say motors are you running a MOA rig or just a single motor rig?
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Old 09-18-2011, 07:31 AM   #8
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As long as the ESC is up to running whatever motor you are going to be using then you are good. ESC's often have a limit on what turn motor they will run but that typically isnt an issue with crawlers as we tend to run higher tun motors than everyone else (For example if the limit is 19t then it will run a 19T and higher motor).

I would recommend staying with one of the major manufactures, you will end up with a better ESC and if anything goes wrong with it you will get better support.

You say motors are you running a MOA rig or just a single motor rig?
+1, you need to match the ESC to motor type (brushed vs. brushless), size of the motor (turns or KV) as well as maximum cell count/voltage for battery pack (if you want to run a 3S LiPO pack, make sure the ESC can handle it).

Sticking to a major vendor usually means better support and more of us here know about it.
If you try something "new & different", nobody may be able to really help you out with any issues.
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Going to run dual motors. rc4wd 45t. in another post someone said get a tekin b1r. It's for 1/18. Specs say motor limit 55t limit 540 size. I'm assuming that means 45t motors won't work.

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Going to run dual motors. rc4wd 45t. in another post someone said get a tekin b1r. It's for 1/18. Specs say motor limit 55t limit 540 size. I'm assuming that means 45t motors won't work.

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correct the 45t's wont work.

but the rc4wd esc's aren't the best for anything.

I'd suggest a HH tourqe master BR-XL esc and a single esc would be able to power both motor's and 1 of them is the cost of 1 B1R.
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The B1R will work. KC_JoNeS, Krakker and webster420 are a few on this site that run them with 3s lipos and 35 turn motors in the XR10. I think I even have seen one of the Team Tekin drivers using them.
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1 BR-XL is the cost of 2 B1r's...

OP what is the rig you are building? Are you trying to take advantage of proportional dig? What radio gear are you thinking of using?
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Going to build xr10, dual escs(possibly m2 dig), rc4wd 45t motors, losikids gt3b hacked radio. Just trying to keep the price down a bit without buying crap. EscS are obviously the expensive part. If b1r will work with 45t motors, that might be my route as the price might be right. I dont comp at all either, so 2s doesn't bother me too much.

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If you can help it avoid the M2, too many issues to be worth the money.

You will want to run 3s, 2s just doesnt cut it on a MOA in my opinion.

I have never ran a B1r but it seems like it is accepted that it works fine on a crawler.

You are going to have a radio capable of dual esc mixing, might as well take advantage of it!
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If you can help it avoid the M2, too many issues to be worth the money.

You will want to run 3s, 2s just doesnt cut it on a MOA in my opinion.

I have never ran a B1r but it seems like it is accepted that it works fine on a crawler.

You are going to have a radio capable of dual esc mixing, might as well take advantage of it!
+1.
I ran a CC MM with a servo-dig on a 2.2 MOA.
I later changed to a WannAmix in place of the servo dig.
Big/positive difference.
The Novak (I'm a huge Novak fan, but the M2 seems to be lacking) may not be the best choice.
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