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09-21-2011, 12:29 PM | #1 |
Newbie Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: douglasville
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| Holmes hobbies for speed
Which HH motor would be the best for high dirt slinging wheel speed for off road trails and hill climbing? Low speed rock climbing isn't a issue. I use a 2 cell 25c 5000kv lipo honcho kit.
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09-21-2011, 09:23 PM | #2 |
Pebble Pounder Join Date: May 2009 Location: Northern Virginia, USA
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I would go with a brushless motor. Even one of those finned 380 hobbywing motors will give you quite a bit of power. A high powered brushed motor is going to require alot of maintenance. I ran the 3000kv version in my honcho for abit, and it had really nice wheel speed, and was more torque-y than my 35t brushed motor on 3s. Only problem is you can't crawl slowly, which was getting really annoying so i switched it out. |
09-21-2011, 09:38 PM | #3 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: four o six
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PM the man himself...he is a really cool guy and will help you out in any electrical situation
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09-22-2011, 12:04 PM | #4 | |
Newbie Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: douglasville
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I just don't know, there are so many options to go with and ill start to like a setup then ill read somewhere on the forums that they had problems with that setup then I change my mind and it never ends I just can't make up my mind on what to get. First i wanted the velineon 3500 setup then I started reading that a lot of peoples esc got fried, so I changed my mind. Then I was going to get the novak goat but read you need a battery higher than 25c. The only battery I got is a 25c 2c lipo, and there esc can't take any kind of damp water or condensation so I change my mind again. My budget is around $165 for a esc motor combo. So now I'm on HH system. | |
09-22-2011, 12:17 PM | #5 |
Suck it up! Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Arkansas
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If you just want to go fast, brushless is the way to go, especially if you're going to go fast and get dirty/muddy/sandy. You can go fast and get dirty with brushed, but it'll require more attention on your part to keep the motor clean and healthy. Brushless motors are more or less sealed from the elements, brushed are not. |
09-22-2011, 04:56 PM | #6 |
owner, Holmes Hobbies LLC Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Volt up! Gear down!
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There is no perfect system. What rig is it, and do you want to crawl?
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09-22-2011, 05:11 PM | #7 |
TN State Champ 11,12,13 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: KTM Talk.com
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I have a question for you John? I'm looking for a esc/motor combo for the wraith. I currently have the stock motor with a Tekin rs on a 3s. The speed is great but, there is no drag brake with the rs. I'm sure the stock motor is going to burn out soon on 3s. I've been checking out options on your site. Would the rock racer combo with a 21 turn motor on your site give me the wheel speed of the stock motor on 3s? What would the difference be if I went with the crawl master 16t and brxl? Will you have more crawl masters in stock soon? Thanks for your advice |
09-22-2011, 05:25 PM | #8 |
dnf Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Under a big fkn rock.
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keeping a brushed motor cleaned really isnt all that hard,and is worth learning IMO. also IMO brushed is better for an alla round trail truck. I would consider one of the 27t machine wound motors john has....they wont last long though at the selling price. |
09-22-2011, 05:58 PM | #9 |
Rock Crawler Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: tri cities
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| You could go with a mamba max pro combo. They have up to 9000kv area. I've seen the 7700kv in a foff rig and it halls a$$ for a scx. The mamba isn't waterproof but he's splashed water on it and hasn't went out yet (not recomending doin this) the combos you can pick up all day long for $180 and sometimes you can get a sale on the for $160 just keep looking. I haven't had the honors to run the br-xl yet in one of his awesome motors but, from what I've heard and seen, HH would be the way to go. Can be waterproofed from him, 6s lipo, no motor limit (single) and has a great bec all for $98 non waterproof and $108 waterproofed. I myself need to learn brushed motor cleaning and fixing better.
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09-22-2011, 06:53 PM | #10 |
Quarry Creeper Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Kailua
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I'm running a 14t HH Cobalt Puller/BR-XL combo on 6s. The rig is an 8 1/2 pound EB. On 2.2's running Pro Line TSL's the truck pulls the front wheels off the ground and the wheel speed is pretty darn fast! Had to switch to Rok-Lox tires as the TSL's ripped at the bead. All that and this combo can crawl!!! I'm sure John can hook u up with something that will help you go fast and crawl in one rig. Only thing is, gotta beef up the trans and axles, but that's the price we pay to have fun. |
09-22-2011, 08:02 PM | #11 |
Newbie Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: douglasville
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| It will be for the scx10 honcho i got the MIP driveshaft and Robinson gears. I'm going to use the rig for trails and some hill climbing, not so much slow crawling. I just don't want the rig to be slow but I don't expect it to go crazy fast cause its just not built for that.
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09-23-2011, 08:57 AM | #12 |
owner, Holmes Hobbies LLC Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Volt up! Gear down!
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A good starting point would be a 27t TorqueMaster or 13t Crawlmaster. That will be plenty of speed for the rig. If you want more drag brake and off the line punch choose the torquemaster, if you want more low speed control and fine throttle feel use the crawlmaster.
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09-23-2011, 09:27 PM | #13 |
Rock Crawler Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Las Vegas/671
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I just received my HH torque master pro 20T,on 3s this motor is fast enough.Big difference from stock 20t on 2s. overall very happy with the motor! |
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