Go Back   RCCrawler Forums > RCCrawler General Tech > Electronics
Loading

Notices

Thread: I'm pulling my hair out at this point! Help

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 12-15-2011, 06:27 PM   #1
Rock Stacker
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Claremore
Posts: 51
Default I'm pulling my hair out at this point! Help

Okay guys, I'm no newby to RC. I've raced competitively for several years. I recently got into rock crawlers. I'm having a heck of a time with the electronics in my recently built Wraith kit. Here's the run down.

Tekin RS Pro (sensored mode)
Trinity Duo 3 25.5 crawler motor
Castle BEC set @ 6 volts
JR9100T steering servo
Red wire cut from esc to rx
BEC plugged to rx battery slot
BEC +/- wired to deans esc lead
26/80 48p gearing
2.2 tires
212 software in ESC
Two caps soldered onto esc

The truck will run just okay for 10-15 feet. If you're more than 1/4 throttle and try to steer, it browns out. Steering stalls, esc loses power, the whole nine yards. I've never had a bit of trouble with Tekin products. The Trinity motor is brand spankin' new. BEC was brand new. Esc had a few races on it. Brand new sensor wire, A B C correctly oriented with one another, etc.. I've went through the simple stuff a million times and double/triple checked. I finally changed to a BRAND new RS Pro (my back up) and I get identical symptoms. Anybody out there have a suggestion for me?
HurricaneSpike is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Old 12-15-2011, 07:27 PM   #2
I wanna be Dave
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: 07456 N. NJ USofA
Posts: 8,314
Default Re: I'm pulling my hair out at this point! Help

What kind of battery (chemistry & cell count...)
Is the LVC set on the ESC, if so, what is it set to??
Did you try a different battery?

SInce the ESC dies, sounds like a battery/ESC issue, but more likely battery.
Also, check your power connections, specifically the solder joints.
Charlie-III is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2011, 09:41 PM   #3
I wanna be Dave
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: San Francisco
Posts: 2,236
Default Re: I'm pulling my hair out at this point! Help

Hmm this is an interesting one as it seems like you have done everything you should have done to avoid this exact problem.

I would have to say it seems like the BEC is the cause. Is this a Castle BEC? I would suggest trying it without the BEC plugged in and with the ESC providing power to the RX. Report back your findings after doing that.

Also you could try running the BEC directly to the servo and use the ESC's BEC to power the RX. That is my preferred way to use the BEC.
SMR 510RR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2011, 10:31 PM   #4
I wanna be Dave
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Lost in Oregon
Posts: 4,450
Default Re: I'm pulling my hair out at this point! Help

I've had a FXR take out my BEC ....try changing that...if that doesn't change things try the battery...got to be one or the other

Good luck fellow crawler
Postclanker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2011, 10:40 PM   #5
Quarry Creeper
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Back from vacation!!!
Posts: 356
Default Re: I'm pulling my hair out at this point! Help

Man, That's why I like the stock-stuff.......27T, AE-1, NiMh..........I run all day..............

Sorry I'm old-school. If it ain't broke...........
ridepate is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-16-2011, 05:39 AM   #6
Rock Stacker
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Claremore
Posts: 51
Default

Thanks guys. I'll try it minus the BEC first. It's a Castle 10 amp model. If that solves the trouble, I can live with a little bit less steering torque, as the servo had plenty before. The only reason I used one is from reading and studying people's setups on these forums. I'll report back. I appreciate the responses!
HurricaneSpike is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-16-2011, 05:54 AM   #7
I wanna be Dave
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: 07456 N. NJ USofA
Posts: 8,314
Default Re: I'm pulling my hair out at this point! Help

Quote:
Originally Posted by HurricaneSpike View Post
Thanks guys. I'll try it minus the BEC first. It's a Castle 10 amp model. If that solves the trouble, I can live with a little bit less steering torque, as the servo had plenty before. The only reason I used one is from reading and studying people's setups on these forums. I'll report back. I appreciate the responses!
If it works, try running the BEC direct to the servo. You will need the signal wire from the servo to go to the RX, you may/may not need the black wire to go to the RX as well.
Charlie-III is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-16-2011, 06:14 AM   #8
I wanna be Dave
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Houston
Posts: 2,004
Default Re: I'm pulling my hair out at this point! Help

Castle's BEC's have been known to have issues every now and then. Like everyone said just test w/o the BEC first. Lucky for me all 5 of mine never gave me any issues (knock on wood). There's a thread on here about the CC BEC issue if you do a quick search.

Good luck!
alexchen86 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-16-2011, 11:52 AM   #9
Rock Stacker
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Claremore
Posts: 51
Default

I've got the exact same esc, servo, wiring schematic in a brand new scx10 truck with a 13.5 Duo 3 and it works like a champ. So I'm almost certain it's the BEC giving me fits. I'll test after work this evening, thanks a lot guys. Maybe I'll be able to help somebody out on here one day.
HurricaneSpike is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-16-2011, 12:26 PM   #10
Quarry Creeper
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Colorado springs
Posts: 209
Default Re: I'm pulling my hair out at this point! Help

Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie-III View Post
What kind of battery (chemistry & cell count...)
Is the LVC set on the ESC, if so, what is it set to??
Did you try a different battery?

SInce the ESC dies, sounds like a battery/ESC issue, but more likely battery.
Also, check your power connections, specifically the solder joints.
^^^ check this, it might just be a bad batt
dblrnut is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-16-2011, 12:43 PM   #11
Rock Stacker
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Claremore
Posts: 51
Default

All of my batteries are fresh. I check them with a Hyperion Lipo gauge. They're all balanced very close and generally show between 95%-98% capacity after a balance charge.
HurricaneSpike is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-16-2011, 01:01 PM   #12
PapaGriz Yo
 
Grizzly4x4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: In the garage building the wife a crawler
Posts: 13,137
Default Re: I'm pulling my hair out at this point! Help

You pulled the red wire from the ESC connector to the RX right?
You set the BEC to 6V via the Castle link right?

Otherwise I agree, it could be the BEC. Have you checked the output voltage of the BEC with a volt meter?

I run setups like this with the BEC powering the servo through the RX with no problems too.
Grizzly4x4 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-16-2011, 01:25 PM   #13
Rock Stacker
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Claremore
Posts: 51
Default

Yes, the red wire is cut just before the esc lead that plus into the rx and heatshrunk out of harms way. I set the BEC output voltage to 6.0 volts via castle link on my pc.
HurricaneSpike is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-16-2011, 06:05 PM   #14
I wanna be Dave
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: San Francisco
Posts: 2,236
Default Re: I'm pulling my hair out at this point! Help

Quote:
Originally Posted by HurricaneSpike View Post
Yes, the red wire is cut just before the esc lead that plus into the rx and heatshrunk out of harms way. I set the BEC output voltage to 6.0 volts via castle link on my pc.
What are you still doing on here? Get to work and test it out! Haha
SMR 510RR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-16-2011, 06:50 PM   #15
I wanna be Dave
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: 07456 N. NJ USofA
Posts: 8,314
Default Re: I'm pulling my hair out at this point! Help

Quote:
Originally Posted by SMR 510RR View Post
What are you still doing on here? Get to work and test it out! Haha
Pushy bugger aren't you..........
Charlie-III is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-17-2011, 03:48 PM   #16
Rock Stacker
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Claremore
Posts: 51
Default

Lol. I simply unplugged the BEC from the rx, soldered the red wire back together on my esc lead, and the truck works awesome. I guess I got a bad BEC. Thanks for all of the tips/info guys, much appreciated!
HurricaneSpike is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-17-2011, 11:17 PM   #17
I wanna be Dave
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: San Francisco
Posts: 2,236
Default Re: I'm pulling my hair out at this point! Help

Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie-III View Post
Pushy bugger aren't you..........
Yea yea I know!

Quote:
Originally Posted by HurricaneSpike View Post
Lol. I simply unplugged the BEC from the rx, soldered the red wire back together on my esc lead, and the truck works awesome. I guess I got a bad BEC. Thanks for all of the tips/info guys, much appreciated!
Castle's warranty is very good I'm sure they will hook you up with a new one if you contact them.
SMR 510RR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-18-2011, 12:18 AM   #18
Pebble Pounder
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Elk Grove
Posts: 130
Default Re: I'm pulling my hair out at this point! Help

Try directly wiring the BEC to the servo first before calling for warranty. Im not sure what kind of reciever you have, but maybe the reciever was being overvolted (I know its only 6 volts, but it couldnt hurt to try )
Man of 5lay is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-18-2011, 02:16 PM   #19
I wanna be Dave
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: 07456 N. NJ USofA
Posts: 8,314
Default Re: I'm pulling my hair out at this point! Help

The CC warranty on a 10A BEC (that you've had for a while) is: send it in with $10 and get a new one.

Check your output voltage compared to what is programmed in. Some of mine have failed to "full battery pack voltage" and may have caused Servo's to fry.
Charlie-III is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply



I'm pulling my hair out at this point! Help - Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Pulling my hair out DuraJeep Electronics 5 09-23-2009 12:58 AM
Pulling my hair out with TQ twist w/ rcbros chassis kikcaffine Losi Mini-Rock Crawler 10 03-20-2009 05:08 PM
What a hair cut Mechanicalbob Chit Chat 8 10-13-2006 09:03 PM
Butt hair Mnster Chit Chat 16 04-23-2005 07:48 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 06:21 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO ©2011, Crawlability, Inc.
Copyright 2004-2014 RCCrawler.com