Novak Balisstic 5.5T Crawler Motor

[Landcruiser 110]

hey guys was wondering how fast this motor will go in an all stock AX10 transmission with original gearing, this is for a friend, thanks in advance

[Twisted Nuts]

Well it wouldn't go very far, it will Destroy EVERY stock part in that truck!
Once you get everything updated it would probably run 23-25mph with the righ gearing.
Mine will run 16mph with a 13.5 Silvercan motor.

[benoj]

it would go very fast if anything didnt break right away, the motor also may not like it to much unless you gear down since that motor is meant for and onroad car or light offroad

[NovakTwo]

We have never offered Ballistic 5.5T Crawler motors; our Crawler winds start at 13.5T. What esc are you using? In order to access our crawling functions, you need to run a Novak Crawler BL esc (Goat 2S, Goat 3S, Timbuk2) with a Novak BL Crawler motor.

Originally Posted by Landcruiser 110

hey guys was wondering how fast this motor will go in an all stock AX10 transmission with original gearing, this is for a friend, thanks in advance

[Landcruiser 110]

ok i rea it wrong, it was a racing motor, thanks for your help, and i dont know what ESC it is, this thread was started for a frind of mie, thank you for your help

[benoj]

yea its a racing motor but technically you can make it act like a crawler motor if novak had a crawler esc capable of handling it by buyin the crawler motor sensor board and swaping them

[Olle P]

Originally Posted by benoj

... technically you can make it act like a crawler motor ... by buyin the crawler motor sensor board ...

Not to mention replacing the 12.3mm rotor with the 14.0mm used in the Ballistic Crawler motors.

[NovakTwo]

In order for our Crawler motors to function as Crawler motors, you must run them with a Novak crawler controller as mentioned above---our crawler BL system communicates through the blue sensor wire.

Our new Timbuk2 Crawler escs are designed/rated with a motor limit of 13.5T. So a 5.5T motor, even if updated with a crawler sensor board and 14mm rotor, would probably burn up the esc---it is much too hot to run as a crawler system. Our Goat 2S esc has a motor limit of 18.5T.

[Olle P]

Simply replacing the rotor (to make it run a bit slower at increased torque) and then use it with a "standard" ESC designed to handle the 5.5 motor should at least function properly, right?

[indiana mudcat]

Originally Posted by Olle P

Simply replacing the rotor (to make it run a bit slower at increased torque) and then use it with a "standard" ESC designed to handle the 5.5 motor should at least function properly, right?

No real need for the 14mm rotor, nothing crawler specific about it. Hook it up to a MMP or RS Pro and it'll work fine. Novak is the only one with the stupid design setup that forces you to buy thier motors.

[NovakTwo]

Originally Posted by indiana mudcat

No real need for the 14mm rotor, nothing crawler specific about it. Hook it up to a MMP or RS Pro and it'll work fine. Novak is the only one with the stupid design setup that forces you to buy thier motors.

Our Crawler items are "systems" designed to function as crawler electronics---communicating crawler-specific features though the sensor harness---blue wire. The sensor boards for our crawler motors are different, so if you use a crawler motor in a non-crawler application, you will probably damage your electronics.

When using a Novak Timbuk2 crawler esc with a standard motor, the esc reverts to a standard Edge 2S BL esc.

Timbuk2 customized,Crawler features:

Another sophisticated feature is the Novak-developed Rock Boost™. When the Timbuk2 reaches full speed for a fixed amount of time, Rock Boost engages and electronic timing advance is applied to the motor. This allows you to have ultra-fine low speed control, unstoppable torque, along with the top speed and higher RPMs of much faster motors. No need to use pricey 3S LiPo batteries for the speed you need.

The Timbuk2 also features completely updated braking adjustability with three distinct types of drag brakes. In addition to standard Hill/Drag brakes, and No Drag Brakes, the third braking style available is Novak’s exclusive Rock Crawling Hill/Hold Brakes for use with heavy rigs and serious rock crawling. This braking method applies stopping power to the motor to hold the rig in place.

[NovakTwo]

Originally Posted by Olle P

Simply replacing the rotor (to make it run a bit slower at increased torque) and then use it with a "standard" ESC designed to handle the 5.5 motor should at least function properly, right?

As long as the motor has the standard, non-crawling sensor board, it will operate as a standard modified motor.

~ A Ballistic 540 modified factory motor features our standard sensor board and a 12.3mm Neo rotor.

~ A Ballistic 540 Crawler factory motor (13.5T, or higher) features our crawler sensor board and our 14mm Neo rotor.

[Meatwad]

Guess the sticker is a truism, novak or nothing because it won't work with anything else. Too bad the components of the "system" aren't modular to allow more uses thus more sales.

[NovakTwo]

Originally Posted by Meatwad

Guess the sticker is a truism, novak or nothing because it won't work with anything else. Too bad the components of the "system" aren't modular to allow more uses thus more sales.

The Timbuk2, with a standard spec sensored motor reverts to an Edge 2S---so, two controllers in one.

We also have the Timbuk2 "Wraith Edition" customized for the Wraith:

TIMBUK2 / WRAITH EDITION
The Axial© Wraith™ 4WD Rock Racer has taken the trails by storm, and Novak has developed a brushless combo to bring out the full potential of this unique, rock-racing vehicle: the Timbuk2 Brushless System - Wraith Edition. This combo is especially suited for the Axial Wraith and other vehicles with a reverse-rotation drive train, and provides faster speeds, higher torque, and more control compared to a standard brushed system. With the Novak Timbuk2 Brushless System-Wraith Edition, there is no need to modify the vehicle’s drive train or program the speed control—simply install and enjoy its newfound power right out of the box!

WRAITH-SPECIFIC SOFTWARE
The Wraith-Edition Timbuk2 ESC has been given its own set of default parameters that are suited for the vehicle’s unique drive train. Not only will the ESC rotate the brushless motor in the correct clockwise rotation, but also includes Novak’s exclusive Rock-Boost™. When the vehicle reaches full speed, Rock-Boost™ engages and electronic timing advance is applied to the motor. The Timbuk2 is the first ESC to offer electronic motor timing in BOTH clockwise and counter-clockwise motor rotation modes-another Novak first!

[new2it]

NovakTwo - just tried to PM you but it said you don't accept them. Have a Q about an M2 ESC but don't want to hijack this thread. What's the best way to get a Q to you?

[Charlie-III]

Originally Posted by new2it

NovakTwo - just tried to PM you but it said you don't accept them. Have a Q about an M2 ESC but don't want to hijack this thread. What's the best way to get a Q to you?

If it's a specific set-up/operation question, you should PM Charlie (not me) direct, not NovakTwo.

[NovakTwo]

Originally Posted by new2it

NovakTwo - just tried to PM you but it said you don't accept them. Have a Q about an M2 ESC but don't want to hijack this thread. What's the best way to get a Q to you?

I refer all product/technical questions to Charlie, csuangka@teamnovak.com.