Brushed motor ID help
 

I have a brushed motor that came in a lot of other stuff I purchased and was hopeing someone could help ID it or give me any info on it.

The can is painted pink and the endbell is also molded in pink nylon/plastic. The can has a green and yellow decal that says CAM Super Stock in black. Bottom of the decal in small print it says 1990-91 I.F.M.A.R. world champion. Ran it geard 80/20 in a 1.9 SCX10 scaler for about half a pack and the rig would fly but was afraid of screwing something up so I pulled it back out.
Anyone have any idea what this mystery motor is? Anyway to figure out the number of turns it mite be?

Thanks Bill

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maybe this one?
Tamiya America Item #53697 | RC Super Stock Motor RZ - Lay Down Brush

only other thing i found was this
Need help on finding the company that makes my motor! - Radio Control Zone

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Thanks
That second link helped a little. It does have the lay down brushes and EPIC cast into the endbell. Getting a little closer to figuring this out.

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Cam was an OEM.....pink sounds like one of the older speed gem motors. More than likely bought and relabled.

EPIC is trinity.

As for what are is in it, no positive, but if it says super stock, its probably a 27t of some sorts. Can you adjust the timing?

Just monitor the temps.....stay below 160 and you should be fine.

Later EddieO

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Got one like you describe. It's a Trinity Monster Horsepower Jr.. It's a 27 turn sealed can.

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It's not a seald can motor, it can be taken apart and rebuilt. The can and endbell have notches in them to change the timeing but there's also a couple tabs on the can that are bent over against the endbell so you would only be able to change the timeing by a few degrees.

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If you have to unbend tabs to remove the end of the motor, it's considered a "sealed can" motor.

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If it has bent over tabs like you describe, then its a sealed can. Yes, you can bend them back and open it up. You can't really adjust timing on them either, though you could try to shift it a few degrees.

From the sounds of it, it is a monster stock jr....fast in its day. Should work fine if geared right.

Later EddieO

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A pic would be super...

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Cool, I learnd something today. I'm use to the traxxas throwaway motors with there closed endbells where you can't change brushes and everything's seald up in the can.

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http://i851.photobucket.com/albums/a...OCKZ/003-6.jpg

http://i851.photobucket.com/albums/a...OCKZ/002-9.jpg

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Thats it, mine just has a different sticker on it.
Thanks for the help guys."thumbsup"

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I, personally, would not call that a "sealed can" since you can easily remove the brushes.

Others can agree/disagree with me.

It appears your motor is rather easily rebuild-able, so hang on to it."thumbsup"8)

Keep in mind, you may not be able to adjust motor timing, thus if you need a "reversed" motor you are SOL.:cry:

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yes a trinity motor
yes an older 27 turn if i remember correctly
yes its a sealed can

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The definition of a sealed can is that can is locked and not meant to be opened. The ability to change the brushes is not a factor, if you could not change them, that would be a sealed endbell...like a mabuchi or a johnson. These, along with every other stock motor from that period was considered a sealed can motor.

I would not call it easily rebuildable. Those little tabs can only take so many times being bent back and forth before they snap....he could find an old school stock motor dyno, which would cut the comm inside the can by removing the brush hood. They show up on ebay now and again.

Later EddieO

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A dude was just telling me about those things on Saturday, it was the first time I'd heard of it, and I was surprised there is such a thing. But now, I'm not so surprised because removing the brush hood makes it seem much more possible. I was like, how in the heck do they fit a bit in through the hood and make a full cut? It just didn't make sense. Maybe it was the beer, jaeger, and moonshine clouding my head a bit, but probably not.

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Oh, there was ones that went right through the brush hood too, but they sucked....even the remove the hood ones were not fun to use cause you can't really see anything....

Jaeger? Isn't that a girls drink?

Maybe we should change it from EeePee to Vajayjay.

Later EddieO

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I won't argue and am willing to refine my definitions.8)

To me, a "sealed can" motor was one that everything was inside the motor, the brushes & the "arms" that connected them to the ESC.
Sorta like the Traxxas 12T motors that came stock on the Slash.:roll:

To do anything with that motor, you have to bend the tabs. Yes, I agree, there was a finite number of times the tabs could be bent before failure."thumbsup""thumbsup"

As to cutting the comm on what EddieO calls a "sealed can" motor, yes, there are a couple of comm lathes that allow cutting comms through the brush hoods.
Sorta what I needed with an "epoxy sealed" 27T motor we used for our local carpet track.;-)
You could pull the brush hoods, but it was a PITA to cut comms.

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Sure, pick a fight with a mod........:lmao::lmao:

Just kidding........8);-)

[it's been one of those days.......]

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It's easy to open those motors. Just grab ahold of it pretty tight, and smack the shaft on something hard. The endbell will pop right off. Sometimes it takes a couple whacks.

Seriously. Done it a bunch. Never hurt anything.


Oh yeah, I know where one of those stock motor lathes are, if anyone is interested. The seller is pretty motivated. He keeps trying to sell it to me, and I've got 3 normal lathes at the moment.