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Mnster · 08-14-2006, 11:50 PM

Ok, what is out there? In order for me to buy a servo it has to meet a few strict requirements.

High torque (111oz or higher)
Full metal gears (Hitec and other brands put one plastic gear in the box, it sometimes strips that sucks.)
Horns no servos savers (They have no place on my crawlers I want to turn not load up a spring.)
Replacement parts (gear sets and spares are nice on those far from home runs as long as they don't out weigh the cost of a new servo.)
Long lasting (I'm flat out tired of buying servos every month I need servos that last)
Run time (I don't want a servo sucking down all of my battery juice)
Standard size (enough said)
Price (under $100 I'm not made of money)

Stuff I have been using

8 GWS SO6 at $18 each The cheap price and solid unbreakable gear train is a major plus. However, the case and torque is just not up to super class crawling duty and cracks. Also the centering device goes out after a while leaving the servo hunting.

2 Skylon Cen servos $32, seemed good at first, good torque, cheap price, very strong case. After a while one of them lost all of its power and it was weak. I chipped off some of the gear teeth in the other servo i had.

Hitec digital 5545MG or something like that, Free I won it in a giveaway. Longest lasting servo thus far. However, it is currently has issues going full strokes. It just kind of pulses when it turns. I like it though, the torque output is good (165oz) it could always use more. But, I'm guessing with a wheel adaptor change I bet it would be about right. Anyone know how to send in a hitec servo for repair?

I'm looking for a solid servo that can steer my Clod stick crawler around. With this latest comp craze here in the midwest crappy servos just don't cut it. I'm currently running 40 series Moabs with the Thundertech adaptors. However, I plan to go to Thundertech CVD's and Rcguy adaptors sometime later on. I'm using the super rooster to power the setup. Really just looking for the last servo I will ever have to buy.

A few other questions about servo power.

How long do your reciever packs last on a full charge? How many main packs do you run though before you change your RX pack? Do you gain noticeable runtime for the main pack?

Would I see any real power gain if I decided to tap 5 of the cells from the 6cell stick pack used for main power? Verses if I used the Super rooster to power the servos.

FrankyRizzo · 08-15-2006, 08:08 AM

I run Hitec 5645's on my NN now and I ran them also on my stick chassis. I have never had a problem with them.

dieselfuel · 08-15-2006, 09:08 AM

i can attest to that i ran his NN clod around on sunday and never had a problem with them... ill be putting them on my clod when i get one.

cartronicshn · 08-15-2006, 09:43 AM

^^i'll take your word for it, i had bought the 645, and didn't quite cut it so i'am getting a couple for one of my clods

Mnster · 08-15-2006, 12:45 PM

Thats what I think I'll do then. Pick up another hitec 5645 to match the front. Since I will have all the warrenty info from that new servo I can send back my old hitec 5645 in for repair.

wyattburp · 08-15-2006, 01:08 PM

I'm a huge fan of Airtronics servos and I run the 94359's. For your price range, go with the 94358. It's essentially the same servo as the 359, but has a plastic first gear (and no heatsink like the 359). You can always replace the plastic gear with a metal one as they have a kit for it.

The 358/359 have more torque (200 oz) and are much faster (.10 sec) than the hitecs mentioned..though more expensive, it's worth it IMO. You can grab the 358 for $99 at Tower, perhaps cheaper elsewhere.

Bad_Habit · 08-15-2006, 07:26 PM

Servo Torque Chart

microgoat · 08-16-2006, 06:15 AM

The 5-cell tap isn't the best idea, as I've found out the hard way. It introduces a potential voltage that wants to fulfill itself by shorting out across your ESC's receiver leads. You'll probably be okay as long as you only run 6 cells, but any more than that and you're gonna smoke something. Do the receiver pack or run off the BEC.

eric113 · 08-16-2006, 06:42 AM

I found this on servocity.com thought it might or might not be helpful, Which this be a good way to figure what servo's would be good for your truck.

Torque - This is the maximum power the servo can produce. It is normally rated in inch-ounces. This means that the servo can move this set amount with a 1” arm attached to the output shaft or spline. Example: A servo with a torque rating of 130 in.-oz. can move that amount with a 1 inch arm or slightly over 8 lbs. To convert in-oz. to pounds of force, divide this rating by 16. Example: 130/16=8.125 which is in pounds.

TwistedXT · 09-01-2006, 03:52 PM

um... was just at Hitec RCD's website and didnt see a 5545mg? can you check which one you are running?

Reflection · 09-01-2006, 04:21 PM

Airtronics 94359Z,the best servo I've ever run. Against my 1/4 scales,333 oz. digi's.....I'll take these anyday. Heres where I bought mine....Crispy Critters Hobby Shop

Cole82 · 09-02-2006, 01:31 PM

Ben you can also do a clamp style servo mount like I did on my clod. No more broken ears.

slobin3d · 09-02-2006, 01:37 PM

my personal favorite servo of all time JR's 9000t 330oz tourqe .15sec metal gear of course and not but a few bucks more than a digital hitec or aitronics http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...dID=JRPSZ9000T

Cole82 · 09-02-2006, 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slobin3d

my personal favorite servo of all time JR's 9000t 330oz tourqe .15sec metal gear of course and not but a few bucks more than a digital hitec or aitronics http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...dID=JRPSZ9000T

I'll second this. This is the one I was telling you about but didn't remember the #

dezfan · 09-02-2006, 02:54 PM

I've had extremely good luck w the Tower Pro MG 955's off the bay. Under $20.00 a piece, 200 oz's of torque, and so far the only loss has been a broken ear on one of my Supers.

cartronicshn · 09-02-2006, 03:15 PM

dez how about a link? i looked and only found the micro ones

, i will agree i have one on my NN for the rear steer and one 645mg on the front and the difference is unbeliavable much more steering power from the tower pro.

dezfan · 09-02-2006, 03:36 PM

Here is one for $4.99 and it ends in 5 hours!

http://cgi.ebay.com/MG995-Metal-Gear...QQcmdZViewItem

Unholy · 09-02-2006, 03:39 PM

I too have had good luck with the ones Dez listed.
The specs also said they could handle 7 volts...
I have run a BEC tap straight off a 6 cell pack to power them and not had a flame out yet.

Mnster · 09-04-2006, 02:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwistedXT

um... was just at Hitec RCD's website and didnt see a 5545mg? can you check which one you are running?

Actually its a 5645mg

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cole82

Ben you can also do a clamp style servo mount like I did on my clod. No more broken ears.

Internal case breakage the gears pivots get all wollerd out or the output to the case cracks.

I also have to add that Futaba 3305 servos suck. I picked up two thinking that name brand servos are good. They glitch like mad they flutter under high torque. Every once in a while they freak out and do there own thing till they find center again. Worst of all the servo lead was all of 8". I had to buy extensions just to put them in.

I just can't get myself to blow $125 on a servo just yet that "might" hold up better then what I have been using. I'll just have to raid the for sale sections of racer sites till I find what I need I guess.

Towerpro's look to have that same crappy case as the GWS servos that I had, not going down that road again. I've heard mixed reviews, just look in the Towerpro thread.

FrankyRizzo · 09-04-2006, 07:37 AM

I have used the 3305 for years in many rigs and never had a problem. IMO it is a really great servo.

08-14-2006, 11:50 PM	#1
Mnster MWRCA'er Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Machesney Park IL Posts: 3,995	Lets talk servos and servo power Ok, what is out there? In order for me to buy a servo it has to meet a few strict requirements. High torque (111oz or higher) Full metal gears (Hitec and other brands put one plastic gear in the box, it sometimes strips that sucks.) Horns no servos savers (They have no place on my crawlers I want to turn not load up a spring.) Replacement parts (gear sets and spares are nice on those far from home runs as long as they don't out weigh the cost of a new servo.) Long lasting (I'm flat out tired of buying servos every month I need servos that last) Run time (I don't want a servo sucking down all of my battery juice) Standard size (enough said) Price (under $100 I'm not made of money) Stuff I have been using 8 GWS SO6 at $18 each The cheap price and solid unbreakable gear train is a major plus. However, the case and torque is just not up to super class crawling duty and cracks. Also the centering device goes out after a while leaving the servo hunting. 2 Skylon Cen servos $32, seemed good at first, good torque, cheap price, very strong case. After a while one of them lost all of its power and it was weak. I chipped off some of the gear teeth in the other servo i had. Hitec digital 5545MG or something like that, Free I won it in a giveaway. Longest lasting servo thus far. However, it is currently has issues going full strokes. It just kind of pulses when it turns. I like it though, the torque output is good (165oz) it could always use more. But, I'm guessing with a wheel adaptor change I bet it would be about right. Anyone know how to send in a hitec servo for repair? I'm looking for a solid servo that can steer my Clod stick crawler around. With this latest comp craze here in the midwest crappy servos just don't cut it. I'm currently running 40 series Moabs with the Thundertech adaptors. However, I plan to go to Thundertech CVD's and Rcguy adaptors sometime later on. I'm using the super rooster to power the setup. Really just looking for the last servo I will ever have to buy. A few other questions about servo power. How long do your reciever packs last on a full charge? How many main packs do you run though before you change your RX pack? Do you gain noticeable runtime for the main pack? Would I see any real power gain if I decided to tap 5 of the cells from the 6cell stick pack used for main power? Verses if I used the Super rooster to power the servos.

08-15-2006, 08:08 AM	#2
FrankyRizzo I wanna be Dave Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Vegas Posts: 7,172	I run Hitec 5645's on my NN now and I ran them also on my stick chassis. I have never had a problem with them.

08-15-2006, 09:08 AM	#3
dieselfuel I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Henderson/Las Vegas, NV Posts: 5,032	i can attest to that i ran his NN clod around on sunday and never had a problem with them... ill be putting them on my clod when i get one.

08-15-2006, 09:43 AM	#4
cartronicshn I wanna be Dave Join Date: May 2006 Location: HONDURAS...ROCK HEAVEN Posts: 5,076	^^i'll take your word for it, i had bought the 645, and didn't quite cut it so i'am getting a couple for one of my clods

08-15-2006, 12:45 PM	#5
Mnster MWRCA'er Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Machesney Park IL Posts: 3,995	Thats what I think I'll do then. Pick up another hitec 5645 to match the front. Since I will have all the warrenty info from that new servo I can send back my old hitec 5645 in for repair.

08-15-2006, 01:08 PM	#6
wyattburp Quarry Creeper Join Date: May 2006 Location: Oregon Posts: 218	I'm a huge fan of Airtronics servos and I run the 94359's. For your price range, go with the 94358. It's essentially the same servo as the 359, but has a plastic first gear (and no heatsink like the 359). You can always replace the plastic gear with a metal one as they have a kit for it. The 358/359 have more torque (200 oz) and are much faster (.10 sec) than the hitecs mentioned..though more expensive, it's worth it IMO. You can grab the 358 for $99 at Tower, perhaps cheaper elsewhere.

08-15-2006, 07:26 PM	#7
Bad_Habit Newbie Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Redmond Oregon (High Desert) Posts: 31	Servo Torque Chart

08-16-2006, 06:15 AM	#8
microgoat I wanna be Dave Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cleveland, OH Posts: 8,009	The 5-cell tap isn't the best idea, as I've found out the hard way. It introduces a potential voltage that wants to fulfill itself by shorting out across your ESC's receiver leads. You'll probably be okay as long as you only run 6 cells, but any more than that and you're gonna smoke something. Do the receiver pack or run off the BEC.

08-16-2006, 06:42 AM	#9
eric113 Moderator Rule Breaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Austin, Tx Posts: 5,970	I found this on servocity.com thought it might or might not be helpful, Which this be a good way to figure what servo's would be good for your truck. Torque - This is the maximum power the servo can produce. It is normally rated in inch-ounces. This means that the servo can move this set amount with a 1” arm attached to the output shaft or spline. Example: A servo with a torque rating of 130 in.-oz. can move that amount with a 1 inch arm or slightly over 8 lbs. To convert in-oz. to pounds of force, divide this rating by 16. Example: 130/16=8.125 which is in pounds.

09-01-2006, 03:52 PM	#10
TwistedXT Powered by Awesome Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Parker, Colorado Posts: 3,622	um... was just at Hitec RCD's website and didnt see a 5545mg? can you check which one you are running?

09-01-2006, 04:21 PM	#11
Reflection TEAM MODERATOR Join Date: May 2004 Location: Tennessee Posts: 10,855	Airtronics 94359Z,the best servo I've ever run. Against my 1/4 scales,333 oz. digi's.....I'll take these anyday. Heres where I bought mine....Crispy Critters Hobby Shop

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09-02-2006, 01:31 PM	#12
Cole82 I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Cedar Rapids Posts: 2,028	Ben you can also do a clamp style servo mount like I did on my clod. No more broken ears.

09-02-2006, 01:37 PM	#13
slobin3d I'm a stupid C U N T! Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In the Garage! Posts: 4,307	my personal favorite servo of all time JR's 9000t 330oz tourqe .15sec metal gear of course and not but a few bucks more than a digital hitec or aitronics http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...dID=JRPSZ9000T

09-02-2006, 02:54 PM	#15
dezfan I wanna be Dave Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Happiness is a warm AK. Posts: 12,563	I've had extremely good luck w the Tower Pro MG 955's off the bay. Under $20.00 a piece, 200 oz's of torque, and so far the only loss has been a broken ear on one of my Supers.

09-02-2006, 03:15 PM	#16
cartronicshn I wanna be Dave Join Date: May 2006 Location: HONDURAS...ROCK HEAVEN Posts: 5,076	dez how about a link? i looked and only found the micro ones , i will agree i have one on my NN for the rear steer and one 645mg on the front and the difference is unbeliavable much more steering power from the tower pro.

09-02-2006, 03:36 PM	#17
dezfan I wanna be Dave Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Happiness is a warm AK. Posts: 12,563	Here is one for $4.99 and it ends in 5 hours! http://cgi.ebay.com/MG995-Metal-Gear...QQcmdZViewItem

09-02-2006, 03:39 PM	#18
Unholy I wanna be Dave Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: One Legend. Posts: 2,134	I too have had good luck with the ones Dez listed. The specs also said they could handle 7 volts... I have run a BEC tap straight off a 6 cell pack to power them and not had a flame out yet.

09-04-2006, 07:37 AM	#20
FrankyRizzo I wanna be Dave Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Vegas Posts: 7,172	I have used the 3305 for years in many rigs and never had a problem. IMO it is a really great servo.

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