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04-06-2013, 10:10 PM | #1 |
Rock Crawler Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Roxborough, CO
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| Updated - CC Known Issue - Sidewinder v3 surging throttle
Edit: fixed! See post #19 below! Howdy, I read a few threads here and other places of people having the exact same issue I am having with a brand new sv3. Essentially, at above roughly 3/4 throttle it starts to surge - almost as if I was rapidly going full throttle then almost no throttle manually 2-3 times per second. All of this system (CC bec, HH 27 pro, as-3 servo) works perfect with both a rooster crawler, an ae-2 axial, or a couple of other non-crawler esc's. I read this exact same issue here and some other places, but never saw what anyone had found as to what the solution was. Due to that - asking here to see if there was a firmware I could get or anything short of having to send in a brand new esc. Thanks for any help! Last edited by B94Cast; 05-03-2013 at 06:22 PM. Reason: update from CC directly |
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04-07-2013, 07:39 PM | #2 |
Quarry Creeper Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Coupeville, WA.
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| Re: Sidewinder v3 surging throttle
My SV3 has done the same thing since I got it a couple months ago. I would also like an answer to this problem.
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04-08-2013, 08:38 AM | #3 |
Rock Crawler Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Roxborough, CO
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| Re: Sidewinder v3 surging throttle
Well - apparently this is a KNOWN ISSUE. Just got off the phone with Castle Creations - they said essentially "Yup - we know brushed motors dont work. This is a problem with all SV3. Nothing I can do for you. Anything else I can help you with?" |
04-08-2013, 08:56 AM | #4 |
Rock Crawler Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Roxborough, CO
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| Re: Sidewinder v3 surging throttle
Ok - now that I am a little less ticked - ;) It is a known issue - supposedly going to be fixed by a firmware update at some point in the future. No known dates, nothing as far as "will definitely be fixed". What was definite - Brushed and the v3 according to them will all have same issue I was listing above. No known fix, and they will not do anything about it. So if you have one - its a paperweight or go brushless. So... I ordered a HH BRXL - and I have a nice expensive paperweight unless they actually do release a fix... but for the time being - Dont get the V3 if you are wanting brushed! |
04-08-2013, 08:59 AM | #5 |
Pebble Pounder Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Oveido, Florida
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| Re: Sidewinder v3 surging throttle
you wanna sell that sv3
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04-08-2013, 10:25 PM | #6 |
Rock Crawler Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Roxborough, CO
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| Re: Sidewinder v3 surging throttle Since its new and never used - want what I spent for it, so wouldn't make sense to sell it since you would want a deal... As I would as well. Will keep it for my on road cars maybe, or hope that they actually release a firmware update to make brushed usable. Still though - it would take 30 seconds for them to post that this was an issue, rather than try and hide it or not care, whichever the case may be. Since it is a known issue as they told me on the phone today, this seems only reasonable. |
04-09-2013, 08:29 AM | #7 |
Pebble Pounder Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Oveido, Florida
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| Re: Sidewinder v3 surging throttle
How much did you pay for it.
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04-09-2013, 03:44 PM | #8 |
RCC Addict Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Land of 10,000 Lakes
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| Re: Sidewinder v3 surging throttle
I had the same prob with my sv2. I called castle and the guy I talked to gave me a manual fix (with the throttle on my tx) and I brought the surging wwwwwwwwwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy down (a lot less notifiable) then we talked motors and then we just had a little convo. I don't remeber his name, but i think it might be ryan on tech support. Really like the customer support there!
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04-09-2013, 04:01 PM | #9 |
Pebble Pounder Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Oveido, Florida
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| Re: Sidewinder v3 surging throttle
Yeah you have to calibrate the tx/rx to the esc
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04-09-2013, 04:21 PM | #10 |
Rock Crawler Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Roxborough, CO
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| Re: Sidewinder v3 surging throttle
Nothing like what you are describing - but thanks for the input! CC said its a known firmware problem, nothing to do with the basics like calibrating etc... |
04-09-2013, 04:31 PM | #11 |
Quarry Creeper Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Coupeville, WA.
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| Re: Sidewinder v3 surging throttle
I can see it is causing a problem but it is far from a paperweight and not worth ordering a hundred plus dollar replacement. I do not even notice when it is powering the truck. I definitely notice with the wheels off the ground though. But it is not so bad. I am pleased to hear they are working on it though.
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04-09-2013, 04:53 PM | #12 |
Rock Crawler Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Roxborough, CO
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| Re: Sidewinder v3 surging throttle
Its unusable in current form - heres a video, perhaps that will make more sense once you see it. |
04-09-2013, 05:10 PM | #13 |
Quarry Creeper Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Coupeville, WA.
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| Re: Sidewinder v3 surging throttle
Mine is exactly the same, and I guess it is what you expect out of it. I am not running full throttle or even 3/4 throttle most of of the time because I do a lot of crawling. But when I ask it to have wheel speed and climb steep hills, it does the job. To each their own. I just do not want this thread to turn someone away from what is a good ESC IMO. $70 bucks for a fully submersible water proof ESC. Good Luck with the new one. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6HEDGI3ZMs Last edited by Valreesio; 04-09-2013 at 05:12 PM. Reason: wrong video... |
04-09-2013, 05:13 PM | #14 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: 07456 N. NJ USofA
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| Re: Sidewinder v3 surging throttle
Is there a way to "back date" the firmware to an earlier "good crawler" version"? I would have to check on what I run..... |
04-09-2013, 05:21 PM | #15 | |
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04-09-2013, 05:24 PM | #16 | |
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If they do actually fix this, and it does what an esc is supposed to do will happily revise my view of these - but right now anything is better than this. | |
04-09-2013, 05:30 PM | #17 |
Quarry Creeper Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: chicago
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| Re: Sidewinder v3 surging throttle
I have a sv3 running a hh35t. Seems ok. I noticed last Sunday that it does surge in reverse. But only when I hold the truck in the air does not seem to do it on the ground and I've never had it happen in forward progress. I love this esc. I want to get a brxl but only so I can run a puller on 6s. Then the sv3 will go in the drift car brushless I would still reccomend this esc to anyone. Can't beat it for the money |
04-09-2013, 05:38 PM | #18 | |
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05-03-2013, 06:20 PM | #19 |
Rock Crawler Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Roxborough, CO
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| Re: Sidewinder v3 surging throttle
Howdy I just wanted to report that after a lengthy interaction with CC, and finally Mr. Castillo, that the issue is fixed! There was a new firmware/software update that was released today that fixed ALL the issues I (and most other sv3 owners running brushed) were having! Go grab the update here: update And update the firmware on your sv3 - the re-upload your settings, and it's all how it should be! |
05-03-2013, 07:23 PM | #20 |
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Done and done...wooohoooo!! No more issues with mine..the pulsing throttle issues are gone! Thanks castle creations...and thanks for posting that they fixed it.. -sent from my smarter than me phone |
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