More wheelspeed for my crawler king

[txtitan]

Hey guys i jus purchased the holmes hobbies waterproof brushed esc, and so far i dont see any difference than the stock esc besides the drag brak but the torque is still about the same and everything. Now my question is if i change the fireball 55t to a holmes hobbies 35t motor (dont kno which one yet) will i see way more performance out of the truck? I also need to switch to lipo but i want to get by with jus the motor swap.

[jeepster73]

The esc isn't going to give you more speed....the 35t will run a bit faster then a 55t though.

Running a lipo pack isnt determined by what motor you run only the number of cells is.....your esc has to be compatible....most of the newer ones are!

[txtitan]

Im looking for torque im not really looking for a whole lot of speed, I have a 55t and can barely turn the tires when in a lil bind. Im looking to make the truck a trail/mud truck.

[jeepster73]

A 55t usually has plenty of Torque....what batteries are you runing?

[txtitan]

venom 5000 mah nimh

[jeepster73]

So you are currently running that fireball thingy?

[txtitan]

yea its a fireball 55t brushed motor.

[jeepster73]

The HH 35T is a whole diffrent breed of animal then the one you are currently running.

[jeepster73]

My assumption is that its that motor....throw in a HH and you will see what I mean.

[txtitan]

seriously? U think the motor will give me alot more wheelspeed not really top speed. But im lookin for torque. i also plan to upgrade to lip when funds are available

[jeepster73]

That HH Torquemaster will give you plenty of both....if you want more grunt, then get a 55 or 65t

[Charlie-III]

Originally Posted by txtitan

seriously? U think the motor will give me alot more wheelspeed not really top speed. But I'm looking for torque. I also plan to upgrade to LiPO when funds are available

It's a combination of things:

ESC input voltage
ESC (can it handle more input voltage)
Motor (# of turns)
Batteries (voltage & "punch")
Gearing

With a lower turn motor (35T vs. 55T), you can get more speed, torque can be added (speed lost) by changing gearing. Go to a larger spur or smaller pinion.
Voltage, more volts + more power/speed. If you add volts, you change gearing, smaller pinion or larger spur (same as a lower turn motor).

[jeepster73]

I have personally have never ran a higher turn motor then a 35t.....a its always been plenty powerful for me.

[jeepster73]

Originally Posted by Charlie-III

It's a combination of things:

ESC input voltage
ESC (can it handle more input voltage)
Motor (# of turns)
Batteries (voltage & "punch")
Gearing

With a lower turn motor (35T vs. 55T), you can get more speed, torque can be added (speed lost) by changing gearing. Go to a larger spur or smaller pinion.
Voltage, more volts + more power/speed. If you add volts, you change gearing, smaller pinion or larger spur (same as a lower turn motor).

But that fireball will be a smokeball if he regears.

[txtitan]

thinking about jus buying another truck and putting a gear reduction on this one lol

[Charlie-III]

Originally Posted by jeepster73

But that fireball will be a smokeball if he regears.

Currently, he sounds like he is overgeared, thus smaller pinion or larger spur would likely help torque, but drop speed.

Going to a 35T really NEEDS to be regeared the same way, mostly due to the faster motor.

Any regearing I've suggested would help the current 55T as well as a 35T....I NEVER said to speed up the gearing (larger pinion or smaller spur).

[txtitan]

it may run about the most is 4mph if that

[jeepster73]

Originally Posted by Charlie-III

Currently, he sounds like he is overgeared, thus smaller pinion or larger spur would likely help torque, but drop speed.

Going to a 35T really NEEDS to be regeared the same way, mostly due to the faster motor.

Any regearing I've suggested would help the current 55T as well as a 35T....I NEVER said to speed up the gearing (larger pinion or smaller spur).

I know about gearing....been doing this for awhile now

[jeepster73]

Im saying that a HH 35t has more torque than his 55t fireball..

I wasnt even going to go into the subject gearing with the guy yet....i wasnt sure if he was familiar with motor basics yet....he has under 10 posts so I wanted to ease him into it.