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Old 07-25-2014, 08:29 PM   #1
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Default Sudden problem with wraith bind

RTR Wraith
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AR3 AX3

I tried to power the wraith up tonight and for some reason it seems like it lost bind. Been a few weeks since I last ran it, everything was fine. Now I'm having trouble getting it back in order. I have run through the bind plug procedure a whole bunch of times and I get nothing.

Plug in bind plug to ch3
Connect battery and I get flashing red from AR3, and I get rapid flashing red/green and beeps from AE2
Hold bind button, power on TX
I get solid red from AR3, pull bind plug.
Flashing green on transmitter, same rapid lights and beeps from AE2.
Power it all down and then back up again, Nothing.

I followed a video online from axial just to make sure I was doing it right.

Any tips or advice would be appreciated.
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Old 07-27-2014, 08:37 PM   #2
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Anybody have any suggestions? I'm going to have to just order a new ESC it looks like.

I get the solid red light from the RX after binding...but the ESC just keeps flashing and beeping. No response from throttle or steering. Leads me to believe the ESC is the problem.

On a side note...last time the truck was running it got pretty wet.... It ended up flipping on its top in a fairly deep puddle. Deep enough that the ESC may have gotten a good bath.
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Old 07-29-2014, 09:19 AM   #3
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Are you running a bec? If so it maybe it.
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Old 07-29-2014, 12:22 PM   #4
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Yea I have the CC Bec.
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Old 07-29-2014, 04:12 PM   #5
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Well the esc is probably bad..if you didn't waterproof it and it went into a puddle then it's the only thing to cause those issues. If the receiver is fine then..replace the esc and go from there.
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Old 07-29-2014, 04:16 PM   #6
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I doubt its a water issue in your esc. if its the stock esc is water proof. Also check the casing of your receiver I had some moisture in mine and it wouldn't work for a while till it dried out. No motor or servo. just flashing lights on my tekin rs. I have had this problem before where channel 2 was toast. Went through all the same trouble shooting as well. im currently having the same problem after toasting my 17.5 redline. Try another receiver if you have one. or another tx/rx combo and see if it works...willing to bet money it works. this is the 3rd axial receiver ive had this issue with.

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Old 07-29-2014, 04:27 PM   #7
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I doubt its a water issue in your esc. if its the stock esc is water proof. I bet you have steering but no motor? I have had this problem as well. Turned out channel 2 was not working. Went through all the same trouble shooting as well. im currently having the same problem after toasting my 17.5 redline. Try another receiver if you have one. or another tx/rx combo and see if it works...willing to bet money it works. this is the 3rd axial receiver ive had this issue with.
X2 on that.
If you get a new tx/RX then I'd say go with a Fly-Sky gt3b..there great and if you contact Losikid he can hack it for you. Or if you're not on a budget then you can try looking at a Futaba 4pls..good system (I'd stay clear from spektrum).
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Old 07-29-2014, 05:55 PM   #8
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Had the same problem with a Ridgecrest. It was the receiver.
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Old 07-29-2014, 06:49 PM   #9
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(I'd stay clear from spektrum).
Love my Spektrum stuff, some of the early systems gained their fair share of haters, but I've never had a problem in several years of using them. The new ones are uber reliable.
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Old 07-29-2014, 07:59 PM   #10
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I also had a BEC go bad and cause the same issue...try it without the BEC and see what happens
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Old 07-29-2014, 10:12 PM   #11
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Love my Spektrum stuff, some of the early systems gained their fair share of haters, but I've never had a problem in several years of using them. The new ones are uber reliable.
Well I have a cheapo spektrum system and it's okay I guess but I'm a Futaba guy so I'd never spend my money on spektrum..if you read reviews about some spektrum system..yes they do glitch and lose connection..nah, Futaba is the way to go..at least for me
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I doubt its a water issue in your esc. if its the stock esc is water proof.
I know for fact that my RTR AE-2 was not waterproof out the box.

water resistant maybe...
but even tall wet grass or a simple puddle splash could make for a bad day.

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edit for the OP

even if the ESC got wet...
it does not mean it is fried.

If it smells burnt... then it likely is.

but if it doesn't smell...

simply remove the components from their case...
then using lite air pressure, blow the moisture out.

Afterwards... bury the component in some raw (dry) rice
for maybe a day or two.
The rice will wick out any remaining moisture.
And hopefully be back up and running.

The rice works well for drying any wet electronic gizmo

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Old 08-14-2014, 07:33 PM   #13
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Ok so I had a few free minutes to play with it again. I tried disconnecting the BEC and got the same results. Flashing lights, beeping, and no response. Heres a quick video to show exactly what Im talking about...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzYSAAvsaDQ
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Old 08-17-2014, 06:35 PM   #14
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Are all the AE2's the same? If I got one from a scx10 it would work the same way correct?

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Old 08-17-2014, 10:41 PM   #15
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I wouldn't spend any more money on the same ESC, or rcvr that came with the RTR...you're just chasing your tail. Bite the bullet and spend some $ on a decent electronics set up. Even after you waterproof this new stuff, try not to submarine your electronics...at least don't hit the throttle while you're submerged.....

I've lost a Hitec 7955 and a Futaba rcvr in the river of shame...because I tried to drive it out....I thought I was waterproof...about a $200 mistake.

The dry rice works wonders if you do get your stuff wet. Taco Crawler is spot on there

Good luck KBR
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Old 08-18-2014, 12:14 AM   #16
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Sounds stupid but did the throttle on the radio get bumped? My 3pk will creap after time and throw calibration off.
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Old 08-19-2014, 07:34 PM   #17
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I already have a stock replacement on the way. I really can't bite the bullet at this moment. Besides I would like to go brushless eventually and rather spend good money on that down the road. For $40 this will hopefully get me running again while I save up for 1.9 conversion and brushless.

Fingers crossed that it works!
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