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Motorider 07-06-2017 09:17 PM

Dropping 1 volt?
 
I'm looking to get a pro modeler 470 for my wraith. I have a mamba x and I want to run the BEC at 8.4v. The problem is my airtronics 371wr will only go up to 7.6v. Could I just put a small resistor in line to drop 1 volt? I run 3s batteries. Thanks for the advice.

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Ninomaniac 07-06-2017 09:48 PM

Re: Dropping 1 volt?
 
Doesn't really work like that. Your resulting V would depend on the current (load). You could use a Zener diode, methinks.
Or a string of regular rectifier diodes (a la 1N400x) but the voltage drop would vary a bit.

Maybe best to get a separate small cheapo BEC @6V. :)

snapon boy 07-06-2017 09:53 PM

Re: Dropping 1 volt?
 
Just get the Holmes hobbies bypass and your good

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Motorider 07-07-2017 05:06 AM

Re: Dropping 1 volt?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by snapon boy (Post 5725415)
Just get the Holmes hobbies bypass and your good

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bypass? what would I be bypassing? please explain.

mikemcE 07-07-2017 05:23 AM

Dropping 1 volt?
 
Power direct to servo, internal bec only powers rx
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...03ba940608.jpg
You still need an external bec though


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Motorider 07-07-2017 05:33 AM

Re: Dropping 1 volt?
 
So I cant just set mamba x BEC to 8.4V and bypass power wire directly to the servo? This is the first RX I have had that can not handle 8.4V. The BEC will then also supply 8.4V to power the RX on a seperate lead to the servo. Maybe I will use my rx462 or rx471. They can supposedly handle the 8.4V from the mamba x BEC. Again I am not running the power to the servo through the RX. I just want to prevent using another device on my toy.

Motorider 07-07-2017 05:35 AM

Re: Dropping 1 volt?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mikemcE (Post 5725476)
Power direct to servo, internal bec only powers rx
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...03ba940608.jpg
You still need an external bec though


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that is a nice little harness. Keeps things clean and plug and play. Me likey. Now if I can hit the RX with 8.4V to save my Castle external BEC for a rainy day."thumbsup"

svt923 07-07-2017 05:51 AM

Re: Dropping 1 volt?
 
While the full 470 oz of torque is wonderful, 440 at 7.4V is plenty and requires little more than setting the Mamba X's BEC and plugging it in.

Motorider 07-07-2017 06:08 AM

Re: Dropping 1 volt?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ninomaniac (Post 5725413)
Doesn't really work like that. Your resulting V would depend on the current (load). You could use a Zener diode, methinks.
Or a string of regular rectifier diodes (a la 1N400x) but the voltage drop would vary a bit.

Maybe best to get a separate small cheapo BEC @6V. :)

The load in this case should be very stable and mostly unchanging. The only thing being powered in this case is the RX. It will only be providing signal to the ESC and the Servo. A diode is a great idea, why did I not think of that? simple .7v drop per diode.

mikemcE 07-07-2017 06:09 AM

Re: Dropping 1 volt?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by svt923 (Post 5725484)
While the full 470 oz of torque is wonderful, 440 at 7.4V is plenty and requires little more than setting the Mamba X's BEC and plugging it in.



True, my Wraith needed all 470 as I run soft foams up front


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Ninomaniac 07-07-2017 07:40 AM

Re: Dropping 1 volt?
 
Bypass means 3s direct to servo, no?

binaryterror 07-07-2017 07:51 AM

Re: Dropping 1 volt?
 
You need to power all servos and the receiver.

You can power everything from the external BEC or the Internal ESC BEC. This means 1 voltage to all servos and receiver. In this case you'd get whatever the BEC is set to. This might be fine for your Steering Servo, but small servos or winches might have issues with that - as might some receivers.

A Bypass will power one (or more depending on the bypass) item at the External BEC settings. So lets say you have a HV servo capable of 8.4v but your receiver or other servos only handle 6v. The bypass would be wired to send the BEC's 8.4v to the HV servo only and the remaining items could be powered by the ESC's internal BEC.

Motorider 07-07-2017 10:22 AM

Re: Dropping 1 volt?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ninomaniac (Post 5725512)
Bypass means 3s direct to servo, no?

not in this case. I would be bypassing the RX from the BEC built into the ESC."thumbsup"

Jandys 09-26-2017 03:43 AM

Re: Dropping 1 volt?
 
Yes, rectifier diode will be good for you. Just look at definition of it and you will have your voltage drop

nedmo 09-26-2017 04:17 AM

Re: Dropping 1 volt?
 
you could also use a cheap hobbywing ubec to drop down to 6v

Hydrocarbon92 09-26-2017 10:30 AM

Re: Dropping 1 volt?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Motorider (Post 5725479)
So I cant just set mamba x BEC to 8.4V and bypass power wire directly to the servo?

Yes, but you need power for the receiver now. If you string 2-3 1n4001 diodes in series on the 8.4v power wire from ESC to receiver it should drop it 1.3-2.7v. A typical 1n4000 series drops 0.65v at zero load and 0.9v at 1 amp, roughly. The receiver shouldn't use much power nor will it spike, so voltage won't fluctuate much. They aren't rated above 1A continuous FYI.

You could also get a really cheap hobbywing BEC clone that gets power from either battery or MMP BEC power and drop that to a safe 5-6v for just the receiver. Both solutions above feed MMP BEC 8.4v direct to the servo.

Motorider 09-26-2017 10:43 AM

Re: Dropping 1 volt?
 
First, mamba x will only go up to 8.0v. Didn't know that. Next, my rx seems to be ok with 8.0v. Now my problem is I need a servo for my dig unit. Finding a cheap servo to do this that can handle the 8.0v is tough. Thinking about a small 2s 350ma battery to handle this workload. I know John recommends only using a battery and to always forgo the BEC of any sorts. The battery will be a much cleaner power source. I should have just put an shv500 on it. Direct to 3s and I could have set my BEC to any voltage.

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