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Stray 02-26-2018 02:58 AM

is a 2 pole sensored motor ok for crawling?
 
Hi Guys,
Im looking at a cheap sensored set up for crawling, (its a personal challenge)

I have access to a new 1750kv 2 pole sensored motor for 20usd,

I believe the more poles the more torque and smoother operation?

but will this matter if its sensored?

keen to hear your thoughts!

thanks!!

OSRC 02-26-2018 05:49 AM

Re: is a 2 pole sensored motor ok for crawling?
 
I run 2 pole 17.5 motors and they do just fine for trail running.

Ninomaniac 02-26-2018 06:18 AM

Re: is a 2 pole sensored motor ok for crawling?
 
should be fine if its not geared too high or in a 20lb rig

Crawler Cads 02-26-2018 07:01 AM

Re: is a 2 pole sensored motor ok for crawling?
 
I'm keen to learn if this is correct, "I believe the more poles the more torque and smoother operation?" Any clever people out there able to confirm?
Thanks in advance.

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JatoTheRipper 02-26-2018 07:26 AM

Re: is a 2 pole sensored motor ok for crawling?
 
2 poles will be fine in light rigs. Try it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crawler Cads (Post 5805062)
I'm keen to learn if this is correct, "I believe the more poles the more torque and smoother operation?" Any clever people out there able to confirm?
Thanks in advance.

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John covers a lot of stuff in this video. Check it out.

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mewalsh100 02-26-2018 11:40 AM

Re: is a 2 pole sensored motor ok for crawling?
 
2 pole will be fine. Gear it properly. 4 pole would be better. 4 pole would provide more torque, with all other things being equal.

Hydrocarbon92 02-27-2018 03:53 PM

Re: is a 2 pole sensored motor ok for crawling?
 
Just watch the heat if you gear it high. A weaker motor will struggle more, and even 40A motors can cook themselves.

Stray 11-01-2018 10:31 PM

Re: is a 2 pole sensored motor ok for crawling?
 
Are there any 2 pole motors that are nice and smooth, that someone can recommend?

Voodoobrew 11-01-2018 10:47 PM

Re: is a 2 pole sensored motor ok for crawling?
 
If your buying a motor for crawling specifically, why get a 2-pole motor that's just OK. Get a Puller pro that's 4-pole and awesome.

Motors are designed to preform certain ways. A race motor can be 2 pole or 6 pole and still be bad at crawling because it lacks a smoother startup. The Puller pro stubby and regular motors are designed to give good low end for crawling. There is more to it then pole count alone.

Stray 11-01-2018 11:01 PM

Re: is a 2 pole sensored motor ok for crawling?
 
I have a couple of Tekin 4 pole sensored motors, several 42mm 4 pole sensored motors, and even a couple of 550 4 pole sensored motors. Just none spare or in the KV range I am after for a low (ish) cost project I have.

Problem is, the holmes motors are about $200 bucks delivered with tax to Australia, and im sure they are worth that, just too rich for what im working on.

I would get a castle slate motor, but the world seems sold out.

Essentially I am looking to get something that is nice and smooth around 2500kv and under $100aud.

If you know if anything please let me know.

Voodoobrew 11-01-2018 11:33 PM

Re: is a 2 pole sensored motor ok for crawling?
 
Why does it need to be brushless, I love my 550 brushed $20 motors.

Stray 11-02-2018 12:03 AM

Re: is a 2 pole sensored motor ok for crawling?
 
Thanks for the info,

After any recommendation on a 2pole sensored brushless motor, that is nice and smooth,

I understand there are many other motor options out there that, but for this, I am after 2pole sensored brushless. Around 2500kv - 2700kv

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Voodoobrew 11-02-2018 12:24 AM

Re: is a 2 pole sensored motor ok for crawling?
 
Look at hobbywing reviews as an option.

svt923 11-02-2018 06:16 AM

Re: is a 2 pole sensored motor ok for crawling?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stray (Post 5881402)
Problem is, the holmes motors are about $200 bucks delivered with tax to Australia, and im sure they are worth that, just too rich for what im working on.

How is the shipping and tax from China to Australia?

RCMart carries Holmes motors and a 2700kv TrailMaster Pro motor seems to fit your needs and price point.

Holmes Hobbies TrailMaster Pro 540 2700kV Brushless Waterproof Rock Crawler Motor #120100035,

JohnRobHolmes 11-02-2018 08:47 AM

Re: is a 2 pole sensored motor ok for crawling?
 
Two poles can work. Race stators and 12.5mm rotors get by, race stators with 14mm rotors are the typical "rock tuned" faire that have terrible startup and run hot. I don't know why that was the direction the market went, besides those companies having zero experience on the rocks.


Of course, Holmes to the rescue with the TrailMaster Pro. A unique stator and rotor, it has very smooth startup and runs cool. In the world of two pole motors, I've yet to find another that works as well. Customers frequently tell us that it drives like a 4 pole.

Voodoobrew 11-02-2018 09:38 AM

Re: is a 2 pole sensored motor ok for crawling?
 
Did you look at priceing for shipping for homes hobbies from Asiatees is that any cheaper?

Ninomaniac 11-02-2018 01:24 PM

Re: is a 2 pole sensored motor ok for crawling?
 
amain has 2$ shipping on most stuff to Europe, so check them out too.

JatoTheRipper 11-02-2018 01:26 PM

Re: is a 2 pole sensored motor ok for crawling?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ninomaniac (Post 5881562)
amain has 2$ shipping on most stuff to Europe, so check them out too.

What the? :shock: It costs more to ship to me and I'm in the US!

svt923 11-02-2018 01:50 PM

Re: is a 2 pole sensored motor ok for crawling?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JatoTheRipper (Post 5881563)
What the? :shock: It costs more to ship to me and I'm in the US!

Amain has $1.99 shipping on lots of smaller things. The cutoff seems to be things that are bigger than a pair of packaged 4.75 tires.

Didn't realize that extended to international shipments also.

JatoTheRipper 11-02-2018 01:55 PM

Re: is a 2 pole sensored motor ok for crawling?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by svt923 (Post 5881577)
Amain has $1.99 shipping on lots of smaller things. The cutoff seems to be things that are bigger than a pair of packaged 4.75 tires.

Didn't realize that extended to international shipments also.

Is that a new policy? Whenever I ordered from AMain's site the shipping was way more than that. That's why I started ordering from their eBay store which was always cheaper for some odd reason.


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