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Old 05-24-2018, 08:09 PM   #141
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Yeah i'm a bit shocked by the price. The other hobbywing brushless lineup has been cheaper than the Mamba X combos.
You could get an XR8 plus G2 motor for cheap.

Hopefully the performance match the price tag...

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Old 05-24-2018, 09:19 PM   #142
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Yeah i'm a bit shocked by the price. The other hobbywing brushless lineup has been cheaper than the Mamba X combos.
You could get an XR8 plus G2 motor for cheap.

Hopefully the performance match the price tag...

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Just curious, what particular performances would make it a better choice for you? Seems castle has a lot of customizability, could even go with Holmes' castle variant for the "Holmes Hold"...
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Old 05-24-2018, 09:33 PM   #143
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I was just saying in general, higher price should mean better performance.

I really like the waterproof sensor cable and the Bluetooth.

Now that i think about it, that Bluetooth might be worth 50$ in itself...

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Old 05-24-2018, 11:32 PM   #144
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I certainly agree with sensor ports being terrible. I'm not a fan of hard wires coming out of the case with a plug in the middle, but at least they are trying something different. I've also been working on a new standard. The last decision is between a 6x1 or 3x2 plug body.

What is stopping yourself and the other motor/ESC manufacturers getting together and forming a working group to solve this? It's worked in other industries.
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Old 05-25-2018, 05:45 AM   #145
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What is stopping yourself and the other motor/ESC manufacturers getting together and forming a working group to solve this? It's worked in other industries.

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Old 05-25-2018, 06:26 AM   #146
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Everybody wants their own standard in this industry. Like trx plugs.
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Old 05-25-2018, 06:39 AM   #147
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Everybody wants their own standard in this industry. Like trx plugs.
Meanwhile China copies everyone and gets away with it!
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Old 05-25-2018, 07:22 AM   #148
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The price - people are hearing $250 will be the price and balking, but...

1. Where is this info? I haven't seen it stated, officially, by HobbyWing.
2. I assume that's retail and street price will be lower.
3. This is a new system with new to the crawler world features. Performance has yet to be determined. It might be worth $250 or maybe not. To be determined.
4. The motor is crawler specific for the AXE system and has features your run of the mill motor doesn't. I don't think you can fairly compare this motor directly to your favorite, inexpensive motor. More features usually mean a higher price.
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Old 05-25-2018, 07:27 AM   #149
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I was just saying in general, higher price should mean better performance.

I really like the waterproof sensor cable and the Bluetooth.

Now that i think about it, that Bluetooth might be worth 50$ in itself...

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Castle thinks it is, and they decided to release it only having support for Crapple first.
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Old 05-25-2018, 07:29 AM   #150
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Castle thinks it is, and they decided to release it only having support for Crapple first.
More people in America have apple phones over other brands so its an obvious decision.
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Old 05-25-2018, 07:31 AM   #151
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The price - people are hearing $250 will be the price and balking, but...

1. Where is this info? I haven't seen it stated, officially, by HobbyWing.
2. I assume that's retail and street price will be lower.
3. This is a new system with new to the crawler world features. Performance has yet to be determined. It might be worth $250 or maybe not. To be determined.
4. The motor is crawler specific for the AXE system and has features your run of the mill motor doesn't. I don't think you can fairly compare this motor directly to your favorite, inexpensive motor. More features usually mean a higher price.
No one is comparing it to favorite inexpensive motors tho; the comparisons I drew were to castles premier and holmes premier crawling offerings that are at the same price point. The point I was making is hobbywing is seen as a budget brand but this controller doesnt seem to embody that ideal.
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Old 05-25-2018, 07:34 AM   #152
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More people in America have apple phones over other brands so its an obvious decision.
Not true. More people use Android in the US.

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No one is comparing it to favorite inexpensive motors tho; the comparisons I drew were to castles premier and holmes premier crawling offerings that are at the same price point. The point I was making is hobbywing is seen as a budget brand but this controller doesnt seem to embody that ideal.
HobbyWing isn't a budget brand. You, personally, may see them as a budget brand, but they aren't. They make world-class racing systems.
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Old 05-25-2018, 07:35 AM   #153
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More people in America have apple phones over other brands so its an obvious decision.
Since when? I have been out of the phone game for a while, but figured I would have heard when Crapple overtook Android as top seller.
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The point I was making is hobbywing is seen as a budget brand but this controller doesnt seem to embody that ideal.
I would suggest you take a look at a racing forum and see how big Hobbywing is in the racing world.
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Old 05-25-2018, 07:41 AM   #155
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I would suggest you take a look at a racing forum and see how big Hobbywing is in the racing world.
Crawling isnt racing though lol. In my personal research into the brand its always been budget chinese stuff.
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Not true. More people use Android in the US.



HobbyWing isn't a budget brand. You, personally, may see them as a budget brand, but they aren't. They make world-class racing systems.
https://www.comscore.com/Insights/Ra...r-Market-Share

Ok, its a 57/43 split in androids favor. Still, as a developer, I can see the appeal of Apples quality control system over Androids. Its just easier to develop for Apple since there arent a myriad of different devices to tailor the experience too.
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https://www.comscore.com/Insights/Ra...r-Market-Share

Ok, its a 57/43 split in androids favor. Still, as a developer, I can see the appeal of Apples quality control system over Androids. Its just easier to develop for Apple since there arent a myriad of different devices to tailor the experience too.
And you have no idea what you are talking about. different devices, yes. Still the same OS but with different skins. Android is Android. Different versions can present difficulty, that's why Android stops supporting older versions of it's OS.

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Old 05-25-2018, 07:55 AM   #158
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You guys need to learn to multi quote. It prevents a lot of clutter...

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Crawling isnt racing though lol. In my personal research into the brand its always been budget chinese stuff.
Maybe you're thinking HobbyKing.

HobbyWing does offer some budget electronics, but, as I said, they make world class products. Even their "budget" WP 1080 is an amazing ESC.

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https://www.comscore.com/Insights/Ra...r-Market-Share

Ok, its a 57/43 split in androids favor. Still, as a developer, I can see the appeal of Apples quality control system over Androids. Its just easier to develop for Apple since there arent a myriad of different devices to tailor the experience too.
Easier, yes.
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You guys need to learn to multi quote. It prevents a lot of clutter...
Different thoughts, different posts.
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The price - people are hearing $250 will be the price and balking, but...

1. Where is this info? I haven't seen it stated, officially, by HobbyWing.
2. I assume that's retail and street price will be lower.
$250 street price.

https://www.hobbywingdirect.com/coll...=9275304214643

The prices on Hobbywing's website are pretty much the same as any shop that I have used for HW stuff.
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