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01-30-2019, 10:01 PM | #1 |
Pebble Pounder Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Eastlake,OH
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| Recommend me a motor for a wraith?
I have a meetup in a month or so, and havent messes with my rc's in awhile and long story short, im gonna need a new motor. I currently have a CC older sidewinder like a V2,and a old titan traxxas motor. Sounds like the spot is mostly woods and trails and not so much technical crawling,So was looking to get it a bit faster,Thinking like a 17T? Im not opposed to a new esc/motor combo, Like the sound of the axe set up. Any suggestions is appreciated! |
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01-30-2019, 10:39 PM | #2 |
Rock Crawler Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: BC, Canada
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| Re: Recommend me a motor for a wraith?
Castle mamba x and your choice of a puller pro or a Revolver. Sent from my SM-G960W using Tapatalk |
01-31-2019, 11:07 AM | #3 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Medina
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| Re: Recommend me a motor for a wraith?
What's your budget? Do you want brushed or brushless? I'd 2nd MasteroFlego's choice. Mamba-X and a HH Puller Pro. I run the 3500KV and it's simply awesome. Great low speed crawling resolution (sensored), and phenomenal wheel speed. I also run a 1800KV Revolver in another Wraith Based Crawler I built. It's also a phenomenal motor with its own unique characteristics. As a "do all" set up, trailing, crawling, and overall wheelspeed, I'd give the nod to the Puller Pro. If I were more focused on Crawling, I'd give the nod to the Revolver. if you want to stay brushed, it's hard to beat a HH 13T Crawlmaster. It's a bit pricey for a brushed motor, but it's a damn good brushed motor. It will run through brushes fairly quickly though. For a more budget friendly brushed motor, I'd consider the HH Torquemaster series. The other thing to consider is your gear selection. Spur/Pinion. 5.2:1 to 6.0:1 seems to be the sweet spot for Wraiths IMHO. |
01-31-2019, 11:22 AM | #4 |
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01-31-2019, 11:35 AM | #5 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Tri-cities, WA
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What batteries do you use?
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01-31-2019, 12:40 PM | #6 |
Rock Crawler Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Land of burning couches
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01-31-2019, 01:11 PM | #7 |
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01-31-2019, 01:35 PM | #8 |
Pebble Pounder Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Eastlake,OH
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| Re: Recommend me a motor for a wraith?
I been running 3s packs in my wraith..Id like the sensored but afraid Id ruin it if I find the water. Mamba x still use that old style castle link system with the pc? Or they have a new way to program it?
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01-31-2019, 01:55 PM | #9 | |
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01-31-2019, 01:58 PM | #10 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Tri-cities, WA
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| Re: Recommend me a motor for a wraith?
X still uses the same link to program. The slate line of motors are fine in wet environments, I run a 2850 on an X and go snow bashing without issues |
02-05-2019, 05:53 PM | #11 |
Pebble Pounder Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Eastlake,OH
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| Re: Recommend me a motor for a wraith?
Im going to order the Mamba X,Was looking at motors and alot of them are like $150,,cant really go that much at the moment. Id like to have the esc and motor for $200 or less. Looks like the cheapest I seen the mamba x was $125,,So and good sensored motors for $75 or less? Im thinking I want like a 2800kv... Or am I just better off getting the mamba x combo with slate motor for $209? Also if you know of any good deals anywhere or coupons let me know,Thanks!
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02-05-2019, 06:05 PM | #12 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Austin
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| Re: Recommend me a motor for a wraith?
Right here: https://holmeshobbies.com/motors/bru...ler-motor.html 2700kv, waterproofed, ready to rock, race, & crawl... More than meets your budget, too! |
02-05-2019, 09:39 PM | #13 |
Pebble Pounder Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Eastlake,OH
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| Re: Recommend me a motor for a wraith?
Thats a good choice..I also see a hobbystar pro 4 that is four pole instead of two pole for the same price, Would you be able to tell a difference?
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02-05-2019, 09:45 PM | #14 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: My mothers basement
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| Re: Recommend me a motor for a wraith?
Nobody but the original poster has mentioned the axe set up, I have the hobbywing axe 2300 KV and love it, for crawling I wouldn't use it for racing or bashing though, it's not really a Punchy combo. For bashing a racing I would stick with the Mamba X and I'm partial to the puller Pro Motors.
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02-05-2019, 10:02 PM | #15 |
owner, Holmes Hobbies LLC Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Volt up! Gear down!
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I have used the trackstar crawler motors now out of curiosity. I cannot report "good" startup or cool running. It jumps to life and has a rather high idle current. They did seemingly nothing to refine the startup compared to the other trackstars. I developed the Puller PRo in the wraith. It's a powerful and cool running beast with extremely refined startup. The trailmaster also does extremely well for the price, starts smooth and runs cool. Smoother and cooler than the trackstar 4 poles, ha... |
02-09-2019, 03:00 PM | #16 |
Pebble Pounder Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Eastlake,OH
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| Re: Recommend me a motor for a wraith?
Well I pulled the trigger on a mamba x and HH Puller pro 2700kv...pretty sure im still running stock gearing 20/80. I run 3s..what gearing would you recommend..looking for decent speed and decent crawling..Thanks!
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02-09-2019, 03:10 PM | #17 |
owner, Holmes Hobbies LLC Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Volt up! Gear down!
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I run stock gearing on my personal rig with 3s and it’s a perfect mix of haul ass and crawling. You get the standard, not the Stubby? Thanks for the support, much appreciated! |
02-09-2019, 03:36 PM | #18 |
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02-25-2019, 02:07 AM | #19 |
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| Re: Recommend me a motor for a wraith? Do you think the 2700kv Stubby would be sufficent power for a Wraith that is spot on 8lbs? I'm using a Mamba Micro X ESC, 3s, and 51.4:1 overall gearing (58/11 spur/pinion, 2.6 trans, 3.75/ar44 rear axle) I've put a couple packs through my 1800kv Revolver now and while it drives well, I think I might be looking for something different. The temps of my motor and esc have not gone over 130° so I was hoping it could pull more gearing. Making the leap to a higher geared trans (1.8:1, for a final drive of 35.5) gave the top end I was after, but cogged more than I'd care for when crawling the technical stuff. I'm thinking that the 2700kv stubby would allow me to stay geared down, give a broader rpm range, without overwhelming my Micro X esc? How does start up compare between the 2700 PP stubby and the 1800 Revolver?
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02-25-2019, 09:19 AM | #20 |
owner, Holmes Hobbies LLC Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Volt up! Gear down!
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The stubby is just as smooth as the revolver. That sounds like a good choice for what you want. Just watch the heat on your eSC in particular.
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