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05-10-2019, 09:27 AM | #1 |
Rock Stacker Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: Greece
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| Piece of connector strip to connect ESC and motor?
Would it be alright to use a connector strip piece to connect the ESC cables and the motor ones? Unfortunately I don't have access to that hot wire gun stuff |
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05-10-2019, 09:40 AM | #2 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Humboldt county
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| Re: Piece of connector strip to connect ESC and motor?
Yes crimping on a connector is fine. Crimping is considered the better way VS solder so long as the crimp is done correctly (using a crimping tool) and not just crushed with pliers. Soldering is just a bit more common when doing most RC wiring likely because is pretty convenient and crimp connectors for motor wires take up more space.
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05-10-2019, 09:51 AM | #3 | |
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05-10-2019, 10:32 AM | #5 | ||
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If you can't solder you should check these connectors out. Not only do they insulate the wires, but they also have a solder ball in the center that is easily melted by a heat gun. I recently had experience with these. They were included with a Yoshimura fender eliminator kit for my Grom. https://www.walmart.com/ip/Heat-Shri...duct/937874250 | ||
05-10-2019, 11:33 AM | #6 | |
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05-10-2019, 11:56 AM | #7 | |
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Yes, connectors vary by the gauge of the wire. | |
05-10-2019, 12:09 PM | #8 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: My mothers basement
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| Re: Piece of connector strip to connect ESC and motor?
Weller $20 soldering iron will save you money on unreliable connectors for the rest of your life. Trying to save hassle and money now is usualy a bad decision. Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk |
05-10-2019, 12:19 PM | #9 | |
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And no, I would not use that terminal strip, you have a good chance of melting it. | |
05-10-2019, 12:48 PM | #10 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: My mothers basement
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| Re: Piece of connector strip to connect ESC and motor?
Well your not going to have bad solder joints if you never try I guess. But it's not a complicated process, and why would you ever choose not to learn a new skill? Other then being too young there is no excuse not to learn how to solder in a hobby like this. Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk |
05-10-2019, 12:55 PM | #11 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Humboldt county
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| Re: Piece of connector strip to connect ESC and motor? In the Automotive industry this is the consensus, but I will still be soldering everything I do. Both methods need to be done properly and to do that both require specialized tools. So in the end you may just need to spend some money on one or the other. Yeah that connector looks like it might be one of those splice connectors that likes to cut through the wire, not good. |
05-10-2019, 12:55 PM | #12 |
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| Re: Piece of connector strip to connect ESC and motor?
Hmmm... I wouldn't recommend holding your soldering iron like the woman in the pic! |
05-10-2019, 01:04 PM | #13 |
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05-10-2019, 01:19 PM | #14 | |
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The ones I have aren't hard plastic if that's what you mean. The ones I have do have some flex to them. I don't see them causing any issues. I've done it. I was holding a connection together and blindly reached for the soldering iron thinking I knew exactly where it was and..."OUCH YOU MOTHER#$%^&Z*!!!" That's something you learn not to do again. Thankfully I realize it was hot before I got a good hold of it and wrapped my hand around it. | |
05-10-2019, 01:25 PM | #15 | |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Humboldt county
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I agree with you, I've heard the debates and I'm firmly in the solder camp. I was just regurgitating what I had heard in those debates. Namely a video from Holly performance. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faLn-SjVfwY I imagine for the auto industry they prefer crimping due to them being more flexible at the crimp (ie not creating brittle joints) but In RC I dont think we see as much movement in our wires to even worry about that. Last edited by HumboldtEF; 05-10-2019 at 01:31 PM. | |
05-10-2019, 01:35 PM | #16 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Tri-cities, WA
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| Re: Piece of connector strip to connect ESC and motor? Absolutely. There is no reason NOT to solder and do it right. It is a simple skill and easy to learn.
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05-10-2019, 01:43 PM | #17 | |
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I agree. I thought the flexibility would be advantageous in vehicles. Agreed. And it's a skill that comes in handy in other aspects of life. I've fixed toys for my friends' kids, fixed a tool for myself as well as a friend, etc. | |
05-10-2019, 02:14 PM | #18 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Detroit
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If my iron can reach it, it gets soldered.
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05-10-2019, 03:21 PM | #19 | ||
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Or do, but expect them to fail. They have an amp draw limit of 15Amps, your esc & motor combo is capable of delivering in excess of 100 or more. You'd be much better off to use an inline crimp connector. Like this: https://www.acklandsgrainger.com/en/...K/p/GRO84-2590 Or, from the site you used: https://www.toolstation.com/butt-connector/p95245 Heck, you'd be better off twisting the wires together and wrapping them with electrical tape than you would be to use one of the connectors you posted... (Don't actually do that, I'm joking around) | ||
05-10-2019, 07:55 PM | #20 |
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I think the crimp vs soldering trickles down from the electrical field. I used to work in high voltage and plant generation and the only form of acceptable "soldering" was thermite welding, expensive and time consuming and very application specific. Far cheaper, more reliable and only acceptable form of connection is compression for 99% of applications. For RC, I solder everything 100%, never felt a need to crimp anything in that case. |
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