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Old 04-24-2019, 05:27 PM   #1
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Is a 12t 550 motor 2 much for a scx10.2
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Old 04-24-2019, 05:34 PM   #2
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I'd say 12T is likely to be a bit much if thats a Traxxas 3 slot motor.

Whats the goal of the new motor? More wheelspeed? crawling?
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Old 04-25-2019, 06:32 AM   #3
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Is a 12t 550 motor 2 much for a scx10.2
Not really, you just have to look at the amount of room you have, that 550 can is significantly larger than a 540 motor.

Power-wise, it is the equivalent of a 21 turn (ish) 540 motor. If you gear it properly it should provide a good amount of torque with reasonable speed. If you don't gear it properly it will fry like this morning's bacon...

The Titan motors don't have the best reputation for reliability, but for a RTR motor, they really are not bad at all. With proper break in and maintenance you can get a good amount of life out of one. The biggest problem with them are people who read "waterproof", and think it means "maintenance-proof".
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Old 08-04-2019, 08:15 PM   #4
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Not really, you just have to look at the amount of room you have, that 550 can is significantly larger than a 540 motor.

Power-wise, it is the equivalent of a 21 turn (ish) 540 motor. If you gear it properly it should provide a good amount of torque with reasonable speed. If you don't gear it properly it will fry like this morning's bacon...

The Titan motors don't have the best reputation for reliability, but for a RTR motor, they really are not bad at all. With proper break in and maintenance you can get a good amount of life out of one. The biggest problem with them are people who read "waterproof", and think it means "maintenance-proof".
Old thread but what would you need to do to break in for the trx4 motor?

Ive wrecked 2 motors last week, mostly my fault going through thick soupy mud andwater.

Also how much can i drive in perfect clear spring water? Thats seems not to help eaither. Really enjoy running down a nice tiny little creek i find while out on the trails. Im guessing i have to stay on dry land to survive?


Any tricks for water proofing or maintenace of the stock motor to make it last longer?
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Old 08-04-2019, 09:34 PM   #5
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There is really no "break in" procedure necessary. Some people run them in a glass of water but I think that is just stupid. Just driving it will seat the brushes. As for wreaking motors, you're correct it is your fault. You drive in that crap you have to expect you will wreck stuff. I have two Traxxas Titan 550 21T motors both are over two years old with probably around 400 hours run time ea and both still run great, but they have never been run in water or mud and the bushings get lubed at regular intervals.
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There is really no "break in" procedure necessary. Some people run them in a glass of water but I think that is just stupid. Just driving it will seat the brushes. As for wreaking motors, you're correct it is your fault. You drive in that crap you have to expect you will wreck stuff. I have two Traxxas Titan 550 21T motors both are over two years old with probably around 400 hours run time ea and both still run great, but they have never been run in water or mud and the bushings get lubed at regular intervals.
Thats what i was thinking, really fun to play in the water and mud but it will cost ya!
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Old 08-05-2019, 10:58 AM   #7
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I've used a 12t 550 motor in my original SCX10 before but i had it geared really high for speed and ran it on 2s
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The SCX10.2 is lower geared than the original with the axles, so if it's geared low enough i think it'll be fine.
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Old 08-05-2019, 12:32 PM   #8
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Old thread but what would you need to do to break in for the trx4 motor?

Ive wrecked 2 motors last week, mostly my fault going through thick soupy mud andwater.

Also how much can i drive in perfect clear spring water? Thats seems not to help eaither. Really enjoy running down a nice tiny little creek i find while out on the trails. Im guessing i have to stay on dry land to survive?


Any tricks for water proofing or maintenace of the stock motor to make it last longer?
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There is really no "break in" procedure necessary. Some people run them in a glass of water but I think that is just stupid. Just driving it will seat the brushes. As for wreaking motors, you're correct it is your fault. You drive in that crap you have to expect you will wreck stuff. I have two Traxxas Titan 550 21T motors both are over two years old with probably around 400 hours run time ea and both still run great, but they have never been run in water or mud and the bushings get lubed at regular intervals.
Break-in is just seating the brushes properly. Normally this can be done by driving the truck around at about 1/4 - 1/2 power for about 10 minutes. This is a REALLY good idea in fast RCs, but marginal in crawler, and likely not needed at all.

The water break-in method is old-school. Racers would drop a new motor into a glass of water and run it for about 10 minutes. The water acts as an abrasive and cuts the brushes into their sweet spot very quickly. This also takes about 50% of the life of the motor away. But racers would only use the motors for a few races anyways, then they'd be rebuilt or just tossed. Absolutely do not recommend this for any brushed motor, crawler or fast RC, it is just not necessary.

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Thats what i was thinking, really fun to play in the water and mud but it will cost ya!
As long as you removed the motor, clean it and relubricate it right after you are done running for the day you should be fine. The #1 reason these motors fail is lack of maintenance. "Water-proof" and "Maintenance-proof" are not synonymous by any means.

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Break-in is just seating the brushes properly. Normally this can be done by driving the truck around at about 1/4 - 1/2 power for about 10 minutes. This is a REALLY good idea in fast RCs, but marginal in crawler, and likely not needed at all.

The water break-in method is old-school. Racers would drop a new motor into a glass of water and run it for about 10 minutes. The water acts as an abrasive and cuts the brushes into their sweet spot very quickly. This also takes about 50% of the life of the motor away. But racers would only use the motors for a few races anyways, then they'd be rebuilt or just tossed. Absolutely do not recommend this for any brushed motor, crawler or fast RC, it is just not necessary.



As long as you removed the motor, clean it and relubricate it right after you are done running for the day you should be fine. The #1 reason these motors fail is lack of maintenance. "Water-proof" and "Maintenance-proof" are not synonymous by any means.
What is the best way to clean it and relubricate it?
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Old 08-05-2019, 02:27 PM   #10
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What is the best way to clean it and relubricate it?
1. Remove the motor
2. Blow it out with compressed air
3. Spray electric motor cleaner through it until it runs clear.
4. Spray excess motor cleaner out with compressed air
5. Let the motor set overnight (an hour or two at least)
6. Put a drop of light machine oil on each bushing.
7. Give the motor a spin, make sure it spins smoothly (you'll feel the rotor pushing passed the stator).
8. Reinstall/test.

Generally it is good to do this about every 20 packs or so running in slightly dusty conditions. In more dusty conditions, after about 10 packs. If running in water, mud, and/or sand, after you get done running for the day.
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1. Remove the motor
2. Blow it out with compressed air
3. Spray electric motor cleaner through it until it runs clear.
4. Spray excess motor cleaner out with compressed air
5. Let the motor set overnight (an hour or two at least)
6. Put a drop of light machine oil on each bushing.
7. Give the motor a spin, make sure it spins smoothly (you'll feel the rotor pushing passed the stator).
8. Reinstall/test.

Generally it is good to do this about every 20 packs or so running in slightly dusty conditions. In more dusty conditions, after about 10 packs. If running in water, mud, and/or sand, after you get done running for the day.


Nice, i would drive it through mud water, get home take the hose to it and then let it sit in the sun, no wonder why they crap out after each week , i was doing everything wrong!

Is it ok to take water hose to it then motor cleaner if its packed with mud? Or just use the motor cleaner to get all the mud out.
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Is it ok to take water hose to it then motor cleaner if its packed with mud? Or just use the motor cleaner to get all the mud out.


Personally I'd say clean water is an okay method when the motor is already wet or muddy, just dont skip the drying out and re-lubing steps.
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Old 08-06-2019, 08:35 PM   #13
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Nice, i would drive it through mud water, get home take the hose to it and then let it sit in the sun, no wonder why they crap out after each week , i was doing everything wrong!

Is it ok to take water hose to it then motor cleaner if its packed with mud? Or just use the motor cleaner to get all the mud out.
Yup, just wash it out with water, you'll use less motor cleaner that way. After that, hit it with the motor cleaner, that will flush all of that water out and keep it from rusting up.
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After water you can rinse it wit alcohol to dry it faster. Then lube.

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Personally I'd say clean water is an okay method when the motor is already wet or muddy, just dont skip the drying out and re-lubing steps.
And I'd do 21 turn, not 12 turn....on 3S.
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3. Spray electric motor cleaner through it until it runs clear.
Is contact/electronic cleaner the same thing?
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Old 08-09-2019, 06:39 AM   #17
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Is contact/electronic cleaner the same thing?
I use Dynamite motor cleaner, but I think contact cleaner will do the same thing.
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I use Dynamite motor cleaner, but I think contact cleaner will do the same thing.
Sweet, got plenty of that stuff around. Thanks.
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