Fake holmes hobbies motors?

[Oh How Original]

I unfortunately ended up with a fake, wasn't cheap, wasn't from China either, reported the seller, they refunded me very quickly when I told them they are selling a fake and have been reported.
Cheeky [insert your own word here] even asked me to leave them positive feedback.... NOPE!

[Natedog]

Originally Posted by JohnRobHolmes

Sorry to see this happening. We had a little rash of motors burning out and it turns out they are all fakes. Report them, file a claim, make the sellers eat the sale. Gonna be hard to stop them, but education and using trusted vendors is the best route.

Agreed, always push it back to the vendor in case of fakes.

Originally Posted by JatoTheRipper

I don't know, but just buy from a reputable vendor and you'll get a real Holmes motor.

I buy from eBay all the time, but I buy from places I've used in the past and trust or places that also have legitimate stores outside of eBay.

X2, exactly why I'm very careful where I buy from, too many copies and unreliable sellers on Ebay, Amazon, etc. Don't just buy the cheapest, I've had missing parts, very slow shipping, pita returns etc, I'll pay a bit more to the sellers that always have good parts, fast shipping and easy to deal with in the event something is damaged or missing.

Originally Posted by Oh How Original

I unfortunately ended up with a fake, wasn't cheap, wasn't from China either, reported the seller, they refunded me very quickly when I told them they are selling a fake and have been reported.
Cheeky [insert your own word here] even asked me to leave them positive feedback.... NOPE!

Good for you, calling them and not leaving good feedback, helps everyone else. I've bought several NOS items from Ebay lately (sellers seemed good and had 100% feedback) but when arrived the items were fake or just plain piss poor condition, returned them all. One guy knew and immediately refunded, didn't even want the product back, course it would be returned on his dime.

[Voodoobrew]

Trailmasters should have green logos, Crawlmaster sports are black. Unless this was changed recently.

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[nzrc]

Originally Posted by Voodoobrew

Trailmasters should have green logos, Crawlmaster sports are black. Unless this was changed recently.

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Yeah, if someone could post a pic of the current legit packaging as well, that would be good. I don't have mine anymore.

[Voodoobrew]

Some time in boxes

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[JohnRobHolmes]

Originally Posted by nzrc

Yeah, if someone could post a pic of the current legit packaging as well, that would be good. I don't have mine anymore.

They have bumped up their game and done a great job of copying the packing, down to including stickers and everything.

The best bet is to just use known vendors and don't buy from china unless its direct from RCmart or asiatees. I assume they aren't the ones knocking us off, although the SKU on the fakes is what RC mart is using on theirs.

[JohnRobHolmes]

On the upside, at least they know we are so consistent with putting 2 stickers in every package that you still got two HH stickers with the fakes, lol!

[ferp420]

Originally Posted by JohnRobHolmes

On the upside, at least they know we are so consistent with putting 2 stickers in every package that you still got two HH stickers with the fakes, lol!

fake stickers too lol


i went to the rpp web site and there scew # was the 10110110101001100101010011010 # so i wasent sure rpp is reputable but the # looked like the number above on the fake unit so i went to holmes website and got it there i know i will get a legit unit there

[Voodoobrew]

Rpp has alwayse done me right.

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[Milby76]

Do any of the fakes have a bearing on the output at all or will they always have the bushing?

[HumboldtEF]

Originally Posted by ferp420

fake stickers too lol


i went to the rpp web site and there scew # was the 10110110101001100101010011010 # so i wasent sure rpp is reputable but the # looked like the number above on the fake unit so i went to holmes website and got it there i know i will get a legit unit there

Well maybe my idea to check SKU's is no good, sorry.

[nzrc]

Originally Posted by Milby76

Do any of the fakes have a bearing on the output at all or will they always have the bushing?

If it has a bearing, it's probably genuine but who knows what changes they'll make to appear more legit.

[Milby76]

I guess the next one Ill buy direct from HH so I dont have to worry about it. The one I have know does have the bearing though thanks goodness.

[ferp420]

Originally Posted by HumboldtEF

Well maybe my idea to check SKU's is no good, sorry.

no worries i know rpp has been around along time and i realy dought they would sell fakes

there wasent much of a price differance and i though maybe homes makes more $ from his site then theres and i know its real at that point



the recipt i got had the 11100010010010100 skw too so but it could be just a crawlmaster # applyed to the fake trailmaster or maybe they both models use that # i dont know

[JohnRobHolmes]

The 11011 type numbers are the real SKUs we use in warehousing. They dont show on the retail page

[Old-N-Grey]

A lot of people on Amazon have purchased fakes, by the reviews. The thieves in the world have no shame.


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[Nogman]

Ran out to the shop to check my 2 trailmaster 550s, both had bearings. Last crawlmaster 540 I got came from a main so I trusted it but checked it anyway. Got a crawlmaster 550 on the way from NZ hobbies on ebay, and I hope it's real. They had good feedback and a ton of orders. Fingers crossed.

[micro racer]

I know comes off as a bit of an ass-hat, but this is what happens when everybody tries to get the cheapest parts possible. Counterfeits start popping up and people wonder why their hot deal is cheap shit. Also, buy the damn motor from an LHS or reputable online establishment, support the companies in and around the hobby, and there won't be demand for counterfeits in the first place.

I'm not saying that people shouldn't shop around a little or whatnot, but I have to explain to far too many people why my store cannot price-match to Amazon and Ebay. (Current favorite is $85 for an Ebay Super Rock Rey)

[GA Dawg]

Originally Posted by Nogman

Ran out to the shop to check my 2 trailmaster 550s, both had bearings. Last crawlmaster 540 I got came from a main so I trusted it but checked it anyway. Got a crawlmaster 550 on the way from NZ hobbies on ebay, and I hope it's real. They had good feedback and a ton of orders. Fingers crossed.

NZ Hobbies is local to me. He's a good dude. He won't sell you counterfeit parts.

[ferp420]

Originally Posted by GA Dawg

NZ Hobbies is local to me. He's a good dude. He won't sell you counterfeit parts.

thanks yo thats good to know

they were my first choice cause of there dirt cheap ebay shipping

i checked a few other online shops ive used before also

the same number kept poping up i guess its legit atleast for this motor maybe not for the torque master though