Fake holmes hobbies motors?

[SlidePanda]

RPP seems to like to list the inside the fence SKUs on a bunch of their items, not just a manufacturers part number. Kind of some odd extra meta data they tend to capture and put out there

[HumboldtEF]

Originally Posted by micro racer

I know comes off as a bit of an ass-hat, but this is what happens when everybody tries to get the cheapest parts possible. Counterfeits start popping up and people wonder why their hot deal is cheap shit. Also, buy the damn motor from an LHS or reputable online establishment, support the companies in and around the hobby, and there won't be demand for counterfeits in the first place.

I'm not saying that people shouldn't shop around a little or whatnot, but I have to explain to far too many people why my store cannot price-match to Amazon and Ebay. (Current favorite is $85 for an Ebay Super Rock Rey)

I fully agree with this way of thinking, buy once cry once

[Natedog]

Originally Posted by Old-N-Grey

A lot of people on Amazon have purchased fakes, by the reviews. The thieves in the world have no shame.

Yep, Ebay and Amazon are full of fakes these days!

Originally Posted by micro racer

I know comes off as a bit of an ass-hat, but this is what happens when everybody tries to get the cheapest parts possible. Counterfeits start popping up and people wonder why their hot deal is cheap shit. Also, buy the damn motor from an LHS or reputable online establishment, support the companies in and around the hobby, and there won't be demand for counterfeits in the first place.

I'm not saying that people shouldn't shop around a little or whatnot, but I have to explain to far too many people why my store cannot price-match to Amazon and Ebay. (Current favorite is $85 for an Ebay Super Rock Rey)

Agreed!

[nzrc]

Finally stripped one of the my rigs down for a service so thought I'd dredge this thread up and compare the fake and real motors again.

First thing I did was weigh them and they're both exactly the same.

Fake with bushing on the left and real with bearing on the right



The only other thing that was different is the cover thing that has the sticker on is isn't glued down like the real one and can slide around



Like it's been mentioned, just purchase from a reputable buyer (or HH themselves if you're in the US) I'd say all the ones on Ali Express and Bangood etc are fakes at this point. eBay still has some legitimate suppliers based in the US. Do your research, ask for genuine photos etc and you'll be

[Thorsteenster]

Originally Posted by JohnRobHolmes

Sorry to see this happening. We had a little rash of motors burning out and it turns out they are all fakes. Report them, file a claim, make the sellers eat the sale. Gonna be hard to stop them, but education and using trusted vendors is the best route.

Don't fook around, avoid fakes, buy direct from the man himself!

[nzrc]

Originally Posted by Thorsteenster

Don't fook around, avoid fakes, buy direct from the man himself!

Not an option for those outside the US unfortunately due to shipping costs. Plenty of legit vendors like Amain, RPP and Asia Tees ship internationally at good rates. I've got my (legit) ones from Amain previously.

[Callelk]

I received a fake one from Amazon. Trying to send it back.

[calcagno45]

Originally Posted by nzrc

Not an option for those outside the US unfortunately due to shipping costs. Plenty of legit vendors like Amain, RPP and Asia Tees ship internationally at good rates. I've got my (legit) ones from Amain previously.

Exactly, either in CONUS or internationally, there's no excuse not to use a reputable vendors.

[JatoTheRipper]

Originally Posted by Callelk

I received a fake one from Amazon. Trying to send it back.

I'm not shocked at all. Amazon will probably make it right, but if not follow-up with bank, credit card, PayPal or however you paid.

[JohnRobHolmes]

Originally Posted by JatoTheRipper

I'm not shocked at all. Amazon will probably make it right, but if not follow-up with bank, credit card, PayPal or however you paid.

You know what Amazon wont do ? Stop the listings or do anything to the people selling them. Same for ebay. They want that cut and don't care if they are fake.

[BrickBait]

Does Rcmart Sell genuine HH Puller Pro V2 motors?

[yp.sebastian]

Surprised.

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[durok]

Originally Posted by BrickBait

Does Rcmart Sell genuine HH Puller Pro V2 motors?

Yes, it's my understanding that they are a licensed retailer:

https://www.rcmart.com/holmes-hobbies

[VR6 BeelzeDub]

Originally Posted by nzrc

The only other thing that was different is the cover thing that has the sticker on is isn't glued down like the real one and can slide around

Interesting... is this confirmed? I noticed on my first HH motor I didn’t know where to keep this sleeve... (apologies for the cheer-i-hole cleaning pics - they were taken as a joke months ago)






And at the back of the motor it looks like a bushing to me...



The sleeve on my Crawlmaster sport motor does not move


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[Kingmeow]

Originally Posted by VR6 BeelzeDub

And at the back of the motor it looks like a bushing to me...

The back is a bushing and not a bearing.

From Amian: "bronze bushing on end bell side"

[JohnRobHolmes]

so far im only aware of the 21t 550 being knocked off. The flux rings aren't glued down on any of them. maybe just really tight on some.

[Inspector86]

Originally Posted by micro racer

I know comes off as a bit of an ass-hat, but this is what happens when everybody tries to get the cheapest parts possible. Counterfeits start popping up and people wonder why their hot deal is cheap shit. Also, buy the damn motor from an LHS or reputable online establishment, support the companies in and around the hobby, and there won't be demand for counterfeits in the first place.

I'm not saying that people shouldn't shop around a little or whatnot, but I have to explain to far too many people why my store cannot price-match to Amazon and Ebay. (Current favorite is $85 for an Ebay Super Rock Rey)

No it does not come off a "ass-hat", it comes off as the truth. Far too many people look at the price and no further when buying and this allows counterfeiters to sell this junk. You MUST become an educated consumer if you don't want to get taken advantage of!



This problem is not limited to the RC hobby. A few years ago I was upgrading the ignition on my 68 Camaro and purchased an MSD 6AL ignition box which failed about 3 weeks later. I called MSD support and the first question he ask was where I purchased the unit. When I told him it came from Summit Racing there was no further question about warranty replacement. Later in the conversation I ask why he wanted to know where it came from he told me that they are seeing an increasing number of counterfeit parts flooding the market and they have started screening the calls by asking where the unit was purchased. The moral of the story is buy from a licensed dealer or a known reputable retailer. Become an educated consumer and don't just buy the cheapest price you see.