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01-22-2020, 04:43 PM | #1 |
Newbie Join Date: May 2014 Location: Sydney Australia
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| Fake holmes hobbies motors?
Hi guys, I purchased two hh trailmaster 550 sport motors off ebay. They look pretty legit however they don't seem to have a bearing in the output of the shaft. Looks like a bushing to me. The package also had dark green logo not black. Has any one heard of this before? And the packaging for the motor should have black printing yeah? |
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01-22-2020, 04:43 PM | #2 |
Newbie Join Date: May 2014 Location: Sydney Australia
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| Re: Fake holmes hobbies motors?
Wish i could upload a photo..
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01-22-2020, 05:42 PM | #3 |
Rock Crawler Join Date: Nov 2019 Location: Erie
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| Re: Fake holmes hobbies motors?
Should definitely have a bearing on the output side. I’d ask the question in the Holmes Hobbies section on this forum and see if John has an opinion. Definitely seems “odd”.
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01-22-2020, 06:32 PM | #4 |
Newbie Join Date: May 2014 Location: Sydney Australia
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| Re: Fake holmes hobbies motors?
Thanks 👍will do
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01-22-2020, 06:35 PM | #5 |
Newbie Join Date: May 2014 Location: Sydney Australia
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| Re: Fake holmes hobbies motors?
Can't seem to post in that section. No permission.. If somebody could past this thread in there that would be good. |
01-22-2020, 06:41 PM | #6 |
Pebble Pounder Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Here
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| Re: Fake holmes hobbies motors?
Which seller? Is that OK to say? I was about to buy one from eBay and wouldn't mind knowing which sellers to avoid.
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01-22-2020, 07:00 PM | #7 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Humboldt county
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| Re: Fake holmes hobbies motors?
You can post pictures using the tapatalk app for mobile or use a free photo hosting site like Imgur (you'd upload a picture then they give you a link that you then copy into the post here)
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01-22-2020, 07:00 PM | #8 |
Newbie Join Date: May 2014 Location: Sydney Australia
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| Re: Fake holmes hobbies motors?
I am in Australia And they are listed as an Australian seller But i don't thinks it legit aussie stock I havent heard back from the seller yet |
01-22-2020, 07:22 PM | #9 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Humboldt county
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| Re: Fake holmes hobbies motors?
You could try posting in this thread started by John Holmes, he checks in and answers questions from time to time Have tech questions? Will answer. Heck just email Holmes Hobbies and they'd probably be happy to help. |
01-23-2020, 12:53 AM | #10 |
Newbie Join Date: May 2014 Location: Sydney Australia
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| Re: Fake holmes hobbies motors?
Thanks mate i contacted the via email
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02-04-2020, 05:39 PM | #11 |
Pebble Pounder Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: New Zealand
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| Re: Fake holmes hobbies motors?
I've bought both fake and legit ones off Ali Express. The only discernible difference (without cutting them open) is that the real one has a bearing on the output shaft. The packaging and stickers were the same on both I received (black writing) Real one with a bearing on the output shaft Fake one with a bushing Packaging of the fake one which looks exactly like the real one I got |
02-04-2020, 05:41 PM | #12 |
Pebble Pounder Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: New Zealand
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| Re: Fake holmes hobbies motors?
The next thing I'll do is weigh them when I can be bothered pulling the real one out of my Enduro....
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02-04-2020, 06:07 PM | #13 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Humboldt county
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| Re: Fake holmes hobbies motors?
I can see these use different SKU's, the real one uses TRMSP or HHBTMSPT(55021) (last 5 digits are the motor size and # of turns) Fake one seems to use a different SKU, HO/1101000-46 Last edited by HumboldtEF; 02-04-2020 at 06:23 PM. |
02-04-2020, 06:18 PM | #14 |
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02-06-2020, 07:27 PM | #15 |
Newbie Join Date: Sep 2019 Location: Howell
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| Re: Fake holmes hobbies motors?
They are selling fakes on Amazon as well. Report them to eBay. Ebay should cover the purchase and make it right for you(I think, been awhile since I've bought on there).
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02-06-2020, 07:46 PM | #16 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Corruptifornia
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02-06-2020, 08:53 PM | #17 |
owner, Holmes Hobbies LLC Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Volt up! Gear down!
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| Re: Fake holmes hobbies motors?
Sorry to see this happening. We had a little rash of motors burning out and it turns out they are all fakes. Report them, file a claim, make the sellers eat the sale. Gonna be hard to stop them, but education and using trusted vendors is the best route.
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02-07-2020, 07:30 AM | #18 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: california under the rock im crawling on
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| Re: Fake holmes hobbies motors?
dose anyone know if this is the only model being copied i was looking at the 12t crawlmaster and just woundering if inneed to be on the look out for fake ones too
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02-07-2020, 08:45 AM | #19 | |
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| Re: Fake holmes hobbies motors? Quote:
I buy from eBay all the time, but I buy from places I've used in the past and trust or places that also have legitimate stores outside of eBay. | |
02-07-2020, 10:01 AM | #20 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Humboldt county
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| Re: Fake holmes hobbies motors? I dont know the answer to that but the Trailmaster fakes were using a different SKU so you might check and compare those.
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