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10-20-2020, 11:30 AM | #41 | |||
Quarry Creeper Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: The Garden State, North of I-80
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I also want to make you aware of something else that *may* further limit you due to your charger's specification. Hopefully this won't confuse you more. All chargers have a max not only in power (watts) but in current (amps). For example your AC6 is 50 watts max. But it may also have a max current, let's just say 6A. You may reach one or the other first and it will reduce your charge rate, resulting in increase charge time. Let's take your 2S 1700 mAh pack as an example. Charging four will need 50 watts, which your AC6 can handle since it's 50 watts max. BUT, your charging current needed is 4 x 1.7A = 6.8A. And assuming your max current is 6A, the charger will scale back to 6A since you reached that limit and not the 50 watts limit first. You need to check the spec of your AC6. For my Revolectrix GT1000, it's 1000 watts with a max charge current of 40A. Yeah, it can charge big packs in parallel with no problem. EDIT: Looks like the AC6 can only do max 5A. So since your really need 6.8A in the above example to charge at 1C, you will charge at a lesser current of 5A, less than 1C, thus your charge time will take longer. BUT, it will still be quicker than if you charge one pack at a time. https://www.hobbypartz.com/thac6smbachw.html | |||
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10-20-2020, 11:36 AM | #42 | |
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https://traxxas.com/products/parts/c...-live-12amp-id | |
10-20-2020, 01:00 PM | #43 | |
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@Kingmeow You rock, man! Thanks for all of that. I can't believe I keep typo-ing my my mAh amounts. lol | |
10-20-2020, 01:48 PM | #44 | |
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@Kingmeow Which do you think sounds like a better deal; the one quoted above or this one?... https://hobbyking.com/en_us/0620-20a...version-2.html This Reaktor states 300W and 20A, but I'd also need the parallel board for two at once. Ultimately, I'd like to be able to charge (2) 5000+ mAh 2s packs at the same time. Maybe some day I'll try a 3s, so I'd like the option of two 3s packs, too. | |
10-20-2020, 06:22 PM | #45 | |
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That’s a dc only charger. Not sure if you’re aware of that. | |
10-21-2020, 07:33 AM | #46 |
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What Benp ^ said. If you could survive on DC only, which means you have to factor in an additional $25-$30 for the power supply, the 300W is definitely better. Always go with more power. However, if you want AC/DC then the earlier one I quoted is the one to go. A lot of the airplane guys have the 300W one. Can do 20A! (Tim the Tool Man grunt) More power! I wouldn't worry about 1 port vs. 2 ports as with 300W just slap a paraboard on it and you're golden! It's all about the power. You can buy a 4 port charger but if it maxes out at 50W (as an example), you're never going to use all 4 ports at once unless you are charging 2S 400 mAh packs! Last edited by Kingmeow; 10-21-2020 at 07:35 AM. |
10-21-2020, 08:37 AM | #47 | |
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Thanks for the links to Hobbyking and the Turnigy chargers!!!! I am really digging that Touch 300!!!! https://hobbyking.com/en_us/turnigy-...___store=pt_pt If my Hota gives up the ghost that’s what is replacing it. Last edited by Benp; 10-21-2020 at 08:50 AM. | |
10-21-2020, 08:55 AM | #48 | |
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10-21-2020, 12:05 PM | #49 |
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10-21-2020, 04:30 PM | #50 | |
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The link I gave above with the $25 server power supply from Ready Made RC would fit this perfectly. | |
10-22-2020, 05:32 AM | #51 |
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10-23-2020, 08:30 AM | #52 |
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@Kingmeow I need to check out my old computer power supply and see what kind of output it has. What sort of numbers should I be looking for if I want to power a 300W charger? I assume I'd need the power supply to provide MORE watts and amps than the charger...? As a novice, I might be better off just buying an AC/DC charger, but I do like fiddling with electronics. |
10-23-2020, 04:52 PM | #53 | |
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Watts = volts x amps Watts =12 x ? Yes, a little bit of a head room is better (due to inefficiency, heat, etc.) but 300 watts is a lot of power! As an example, a 2S (7.4V) pack would be 40,000 mAh to be 300 watts! How many 2S packs do you have that would add up to 40,000 mAh? You'll run out of connections on the parallel board. Even if you use 3S (11.1V), that's still 27,000 mAh. | |
11-16-2020, 01:08 PM | #54 |
Quarry Creeper Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: The Garden State, North of I-80
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| Re: Reccomend a dual charger?
For those who are stilling thinking about this and needing a power supply, ReadyMadeRC is having a Black Friday sale going on now for their 24V (TWENTY-FOUR volts) 400W power supply with XT60 connector for $19. That's an amazing price for something you don't have to fiddle with. Just plug and go! https://www.readymaderc.com/products...er-supply-xt60 |
11-28-2020, 01:12 AM | #55 |
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| Re: Reccomend a dual charger?
Glad I ran across this thread. I'm in the process of upgrading to LiPos and have a choice of connectors. Everything is currently Tamiya NiMH. It seem that Deans (T style) connectors are very popular. However, from what I read the XT60 or IC3 seem a bit more robust. I'm sure Traxxas won't change anytime soon and Axial looks like they are leaning on IC3 on the SCX10 III. I'm leaning towards the XT60 my self. I know I can change them on the battery and/or charger, but is there a trend happening? Like - "Oh no, don't us the XT60. No one uses that!" or "Yeh everyone uses Deans". Also it doesn't look like the chargers come with all the connector options, which is annoying. Do they typically include them or do I need to buy them are they all 4mm bullets? The documentation sort of sucks on the chargers. Thoughts? |
11-28-2020, 05:57 AM | #56 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Deep in the Everglades
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| Reccomend a dual charger?
Trend was everyone used Deans, back a couple of years, all switched to XT60, because they are easier to solder and grip to separate. I’ve found all the leads with banana plugs available easily, XT, Deans, Traxxas, Futaba (life) Hang up and Drive |
11-28-2020, 06:43 AM | #57 |
Quarry Creeper Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: The Garden State, North of I-80
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To this day there is still no standard. The big three are (in no specific order) XT60/90, EC3/5, Deans. Pick one you like and stick with it for all your stuff. Arguing over which one is better is like asking "Which is the best crawler?" Good only if you are doing life imprisonment with your cell mate and have plenty of time. And if you are concerned about playing nice with your friends' stuff you can always make or buy adapters. |
11-28-2020, 07:25 AM | #58 |
Quarry Creeper Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: East otis
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| Re: Reccomend a dual charger?
The deans aren't rated for as many amps as the xt60s, and they tend to wear out faster. They are ok for low amp draw brushed crawlers, but don't hold up well in brushless applications. So if all you will ever own is brushed crawlers, deans are ok, but if you have other 1/10 vehicles running brushless systems, you'll want something better like the xt60s on all your vehicles so you only have 1 connector to deal with. Sent from my SM-G970U using Tapatalk |
11-28-2020, 08:25 AM | #59 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Raleigh-ish vicinity
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| Re: Reccomend a dual charger?
Deans are popular with the people that haven’t bothered changing out their connectors for whatever reason, XT60s are a popular choice for anyone who has picked up the hobby in the last 5-7 years or gave up on Deans, EC3s and EC5s are the standard of Horizon RTR vehicles and will only become more popular. There is also a strange bit of regionalism going on with connector choice as the connector that every one uses by you may be rarely used the next state over. I try to keep it simple and run XT60s on everything but my 1/8 scale 4S+ trucks which get EC5s. |
11-28-2020, 08:48 AM | #60 |
Quarry Creeper Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: The Garden State, North of I-80
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One more thing. The EC3/5 connectors are use once and discard. The bullet connectors snap into the house and you can't remove them without damage.
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