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Old 01-28-2023, 11:54 AM   #1
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Anyone has experience with more affordable outrunner options like the 9imod, Surpass or Rhinoesc? They are 35mm diameter and the specs seem good



If I get anyone of those, there's any chance of running it with a Hobbywing 1080?

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Old 01-28-2023, 04:03 PM   #2
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Those are brushless motors. Hobbywing 1080 is for brushed motors.
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Old 01-28-2023, 06:37 PM   #3
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Anyone has experience with more affordable outrunner options like the 9imod, Surpass or Rhinoesc? They are 35mm diameter and the specs seem good
I'm running several Flash Hobby outunners, which are properly economical, as the most expensive one was about $30. I'm running a 1700kv 3530 in one rig, and that one was $21.


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If I get anyone of those, there's any chance of running it with a Hobbywing 1080?
The chance of that is zero. Any brushless ESC will manage it, and sound absolutely horrific. You want a dedicated outrunner ESC, like a AG Innovations Ninja, or any of the other flashed AM32s.
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Old 01-28-2023, 08:16 PM   #4
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i have a few of the 9imod crawler outrunneres the 3542 in2250kv there really nice if your gearing is low enuff and tge noise isent to bad with a cheap chinese eac i also have several gold can outrunners is different sizes and other than all the work that goes in to them to make them work in a crawler there nice too

i have a 1450kv gold can outrunner in my trx4 2 speed on a 10 tooth pinion and i really like it but at some point it got hot and the glue holding the magnets in let go so i reglued them in and used opsickle sticks soaked in superglue to hold the magnets in place then sanded the rotor smooth and now it works great lol
the start up is good and the sound isent bad ether
the sound issue is mostly with castle escs there anoying on any brushless motor in my opinion anyway
i have outrunner + cheap esc combos that are silent and have good start up
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Old 01-29-2023, 05:20 AM   #5
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i have a few of the 9imod crawler outrunneres the 3542 in2250kv there really nice if your gearing is low enuff and tge noise isent to bad with a cheap chinese eac i also have several gold can outrunners is different sizes and other than all the work that goes in to them to make them work in a crawler there nice too

i have a 1450kv gold can outrunner in my trx4 2 speed on a 10 tooth pinion and i really like it but at some point it got hot and the glue holding the magnets in let go so i reglued them in and used opsickle sticks soaked in superglue to hold the magnets in place then sanded the rotor smooth and now it works great lol
the start up is good and the sound isent bad ether
the sound issue is mostly with castle escs there anoying on any brushless motor in my opinion anyway
i have outrunner + cheap esc combos that are silent and have good start up

Can you provide links for those gold can outrunners and ESCs?
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Old 01-29-2023, 06:37 AM   #6
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Anyone has experience with more affordable outrunner options like the 9imod, Surpass or Rhinoesc? They are 35mm diameter and the specs seem good
They are all the same


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If I get anyone of those, there's any chance of running it with a Hobbywing 1080?
You really have to ask this ??
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Old 01-29-2023, 07:07 AM   #7
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They are all the same



You really have to ask this ??
Yes... I'll have to ask because I don't know.... I already have a 1080. I was hoping to use it because it has many parameters to adjust
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Old 01-29-2023, 07:51 AM   #8
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the gold can motors are alot of work to go from drone motor to crawler motor there sold under about 20 different names or no brand at all
for the price differance your better off going with the unit already set up for crawling

but ill post a link

here are 1 of the escs i have been using i have alot of these escs they seem to work really good on outrunners
the start up isent as good as with castle but vary close and dosent sound like a alian space ship taking off
US $6.90 | Waterproof 45A 60A 80A 120A Brushless ESC Electric Speed Controller Dust-proof for 1/8 1/10 1/12 RC Car Crawler RC Boat Part rc
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mKBufTG

rinorc i have one on order but it hasent got here yet i figured i would give it a try
US $29.39 36%OFF | RHINOESC EXPLORER 3542 1400KV/1850KV/2250KV Crawler Outrunner Brushless Motor 1/10 1/12 for RC Crawler Car Axial SCX10 Traxxas
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mKltdzY

ive got a bunch of these i really like them
US $29.99 20%OFF | 9imod Outrunner Brushless Motor 3542 3532 Crawler Motor for 1/10 1/12 RC Crawler Car Axial SCX10 Traxxas TRX-4 TRX-6 Tamiya
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mr6WaN8

heres a link to a hole bunch of the gold can motors
US $12.24 21%OFF | 9imod Brushless Motor 2-3/4/5S D2830 D2826 D3548 D3542 D3536 D3530 For RC Mini Multicopters Plane Fixed-wing Aircraft VS DYS
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mLBytEK

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Old 01-29-2023, 03:17 PM   #9
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Those last motors confuse me a bit. The shaft seem held on the part with the mounting holes
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Old 01-29-2023, 03:30 PM   #10
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Those last motors confuse me a bit. The shaft seem held on the part with the mounting holes
ya there kinda confusing for sure lol they need to be converted to work on a crawler its not hard but you need to have a idea of what your working with i have screwed up a few while learning my self but i learned on $6 motors so no big deal but it is posable to ruin one

i prefer the crawler versions that are already to go and have a 3mm shaft not 5mm and the crawler versions have more kv options available
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Old 01-30-2023, 04:19 PM   #11
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ya there kinda confusing for sure lol they need to be converted to work on a crawler its not hard but you need to have a idea of what your working with i have screwed up a few while learning my self but i learned on $6 motors so no big deal but it is posable to ruin one

i prefer the crawler versions that are already to go and have a 3mm shaft not 5mm and the crawler versions have more kv options available

I'm afraid of making an expensive paperweight... I'm a machinist by trade. Does would help?
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Old 01-30-2023, 07:14 PM   #12
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I'm afraid of making an expensive paperweight... I'm a machinist by trade. Does would help?
that dose would help but check these out there almost to cheap not to buy 1 or 2 at that price



US $18.60 40%OFF | 9imod 3542 3532 Crawler Outrunner Brushless Motor 1/10 1/12 for RC Crawler Car Axial SCX10 Traxxas TRX-4 TRX-6 Tamiya
https://a.aliexpress.com/_m0JjmDU
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Old 02-12-2023, 01:18 PM   #13
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Ferp420, About the 45A ESC you got: Did you also get the programming card?
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Old 02-12-2023, 05:32 PM   #14
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Ferp420, About the 45A ESC you got: Did you also get the programming card?
it used the same card as all my other escs
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Old 02-18-2023, 06:52 PM   #15
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it used the same card as all my other escs

Another thing: what ESC you've got? 45,60 and 120 are all the same price...


I always prefer more power....
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Old 02-18-2023, 10:02 PM   #16
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on my small outrunners i have been using a surpass hobby 35a esc
the big ones i use the 120 amp version the 9imod crawler motors say they pull around 100 amps but when i was data loging the amp draw i was seeing 30 amps
i guess it could draw more but thats what the esc sead it was putting out
the data loging is another nice thing about the castle escs that the cheap ones dont have
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Old 02-19-2023, 04:03 AM   #17
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on my small outrunners i have been using a surpass hobby 35a esc
the big ones i use the 120 amp version the 9imod crawler motors say they pull around 100 amps but when i was data loging the amp draw i was seeing 30 amps
i guess it could draw more but thats what the esc sead it was putting out
the data loging is another nice thing about the castle escs that the cheap ones dont have
I'm going for the 120a,then...it doesn't hurt to have more amps if it costs the same.
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Old 03-30-2023, 02:06 PM   #18
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Finally got the outrunner. Got a 3536 1000kv and the 120a esc. Can you list your ESC settings? I'm yet to mount the motor but in the hand seems to not have drag brake. It offers little to no resistance to movement. I think I have the brake settings right but I could be wrong

Edit: tried an old ezrun 25a esc and works slightly better than this 120a esc

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Old 09-14-2023, 04:13 PM   #19
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Ferp420, can you help with the question above? please
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Old 09-14-2023, 07:22 PM   #20
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What's question lol
What did you end up getting and what did it go into pics are always helpful
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