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JohnRobHolmes 06-27-2019 01:55 PM

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I picked up an Enduro today from Meadow Ridge Trains and Hobbies in Taos Missouri. So far, the box looks cool :ror:


It comes with a 16t five slot motor. Now there is a lot of people just finding out that 5 slot motors are a thing. Only been handwinding them for 8 years now :lmao: But who are we kidding, crawling is just a fad, right? I'll be releasing $15 and $20 5 slot motors later this year to fill out the price points in the CrawlMaster lineup.


First impressions, this rig is going to be in the top 3 RTR rigs if there isn't some unforseen problem. As to drivetrain, I've heard John Schultz has been brushless beating on one for over 6 months now.

Old n ratty 06-27-2019 02:00 PM

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Good to hear leading lights rating the rig. Loving mine so far. Yes the motor is a revelation to me, but, I've only been crawling here in the UK for a couple of years.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...eb6f4ea3_b.jpg64744715_2349091961976213_8254465390978007040_n by Peter Rathbone, on Flickr

DukeMinnix 06-27-2019 02:00 PM

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like like and more like. Keep the motors coming.

rkj__ 06-27-2019 02:03 PM

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I'm fairly new to RC. What is special about a "5 slot motor" and why should I care?

HumboldtEF 06-27-2019 02:06 PM

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I look forward to seeing your video review!

Shinchu 06-27-2019 02:15 PM

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oh this is gonna be good...

rkj to answer your question: basically its a much smoother motor with more "pick-up points" for spinning the magnets. think of an axle with 2 flaps, and bushes that would charge +/- to "turn" the axle. the more flaps, the easier and smoother it would be, right? most motors have 4. the new AE radon has 5, as well as the ones John here has been building (excellently, i might add!).
https://www.associatedelectrics.com/...crawler_motors

Voodoobrew 06-27-2019 02:17 PM

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Basically smoother start up, slightly less torque. But it's holmes hobbies less torque so still more torque [emoji14]

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rkj__ 06-27-2019 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Shinchu (Post 5945983)
oh this is gonna be good...

rkj to answer your question: basically its a much smoother motor with more "pick-up points" for spinning the magnets. think of an axle with 2 flaps, and bushes that would charge +/- to "turn" the axle. the more flaps, the easier and smoother it would be, right? most motors have 4. the new AE radon has 5, as well as the ones John here has been building (excellently, i might add!).
https://www.associatedelectrics.com/...crawler_motors


Thanks for the explanation.

mikemcE 06-27-2019 03:25 PM

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JRH, Pull a few markers and make a few calls.... We need a Section for this Enduro!

soze 06-27-2019 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by mikemcE (Post 5945995)
JRH, Pull a few markers and make a few calls.... We need a Section for this Enduro!

Yeah, I think this truck is a winner. It will need it's own section.

Shinchu 06-27-2019 03:43 PM

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thirded.

JohnRobHolmes 06-27-2019 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by rkj__ (Post 5945979)
I'm fairly new to RC. What is special about a "5 slot motor" and why should I care?


5 slot (done right) is smoother starting and more controllable in situations where it really counts. 3 slot (most every other hobby motor) is rougher starting but has higher torque density. Thus, why my brushed motor lines are Crawlmaster (5 slot) and TorqueMaster (3 slot). TrailMaster is also 3 slot, but low cost version more tuned for looooong service life to match people driving these huge 5000mah 3s packs.

JohnRobHolmes 06-27-2019 05:51 PM

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Tomorrow I'm shooting vids. Had 5 other vids on deck, now they all get a back seat for this rig.

bikepilot 06-27-2019 07:03 PM

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Looking forward to it and seeing what you do to this rig!! keep up the great work John!!

stormridersp 06-28-2019 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnRobHolmes (Post 5945975)
I'll be releasing $15 and $20 5 slot motors later this year to fill out the price points in the CrawlMaster lineup.

Amazing news! 555 or 545?

B-MOW71 06-28-2019 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by mikemcE (Post 5945995)
JRH, Pull a few markers and make a few calls.... We need a Section for this Enduro!

Agree!"thumbsup"

Quote:

Originally Posted by soze (Post 5945997)
Yeah, I think this truck is a winner. It will need it's own section.

I think so too! Agree!"thumbsup"


Looking forward to seeing the videos and reviews John.

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rkj__ 06-28-2019 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnRobHolmes (Post 5946045)
5 slot (done right) is smoother starting and more controllable in situations where it really counts. 3 slot (most every other hobby motor) is rougher starting but has higher torque density. Thus, why my brushed motor lines are Crawlmaster (5 slot) and TorqueMaster (3 slot). TrailMaster is also 3 slot, but low cost version more tuned for looooong service life to match people driving these huge 5000mah 3s packs.


Thanks for the reply. "thumbsup"

JohnRobHolmes 06-28-2019 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by stormridersp (Post 5946109)
Amazing news! 555 or 545?

yes, both models. they will likely be slower than the handwound options, as machine wound motors just don't do well in lower turns.

calcagno45 06-28-2019 07:01 AM

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JRH - Let's see some dyno graphs with a 3 slot vs 5 slot.

MaX-D 06-28-2019 01:02 PM

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SUBSCRIBED! I never would have guessed that this truck would be that good.


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