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Old 12-04-2019, 12:43 PM   #61
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Did I miss where you said what inner fenders those are? Those would be a great addition for my Wrangler JK Unlimited Enduro.

Also, how's the paint holding up? I want to do a Fall Guy body for my Barrage, but nobody makes brown & tan lexan paints, so I was thinking about going a similar route to you and painting the outside after an initial coat of lexan paint.
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Old 12-04-2019, 12:56 PM   #62
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Did I miss where you said what inner fenders those are? Those would be a great addition for my Wrangler JK Unlimited Enduro.

Also, how's the paint holding up? I want to do a Fall Guy body for my Barrage, but nobody makes brown & tan lexan paints, so I was thinking about going a similar route to you and painting the outside after an initial coat of lexan paint.
I think he bought the Enduro Sendero Inner Fenders.
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Old 12-04-2019, 01:59 PM   #63
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Did I miss where you said what inner fenders those are? Those would be a great addition for my Wrangler JK Unlimited Enduro.

Also, how's the paint holding up? I want to do a Fall Guy body for my Barrage, but nobody makes brown & tan lexan paints, so I was thinking about going a similar route to you and painting the outside after an initial coat of lexan paint.
Overall it has held up OK but around the edges where the indents were cut out for the sliders the paint has flaked, possibly since that area flexes and has some impacts against the sliders themselves. Iíve since trimmed them off (as pictured in the most recent photo). Iíve repainted it once, after the first run since the paint was only hours old when I took it out the first time. I feel like if I had allowed time for it to cure right from the get go it would have held up better. I should mention this was my first time painting the outside of a body.

If I were to do it a second time, Iíd probably start with the clear body instead of the rtr since the lexan is thicker, and paint the inside with a tamiya ps55 flat clear then give the TS paints a shot behind that as others have reported success with this method.

For now Iíll keep running this one and maybe re-spray it again down the road as I have a bunch of the paint left.

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I think he bought the Enduro Sendero Inner Fenders.
Correct, had to trim the underside of the bed/cab a tad to get the body to sit right but nothing major.
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Overall it has held up OK but around the edges where the indents were cut out for the sliders the paint has flaked, possibly since that area flexes and has some impacts against the sliders themselves. Iíve since trimmed them off (as pictured in the most recent photo). Iíve repainted it once, after the first run since the paint was only hours old when I took it out the first time. I feel like if I had allowed time for it to cure right from the get go it would have held up better. I should mention this was my first time painting the outside of a body.

If I were to do it a second time, Iíd probably start with the clear body instead of the rtr since the lexan is thicker, and paint the inside with a tamiya ps55 flat clear then give the TS paints a shot behind that as others have reported success with this method.

For now Iíll keep running this one and maybe re-spray it again down the road as I have a bunch of the paint left.



Correct, had to trim the underside of the bed/cab a tad to get the body to sit right but nothing major.
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I think he bought the Enduro Sendero Inner Fenders.

It annoys the hell out of me that the factory body and factory option fenders aren't compatible entirely. Currently I'm running the fronts only but I might trim up the body like you did. Anyone out there with a single piece body won't have this issue.
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Old 12-04-2019, 02:32 PM   #65
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I think he bought the Enduro Sendero Inner Fenders.
Well, damn. I didn't even know those existed.

I guess I'm going to have to order up a set!

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Nice upgrades TB!

Looking forward to hearing how the new battery tray works out. I do like the looks of it and the front servo mount.

My STRC servo/mount brace just came in yesterday. Hoping to get it installed this weekend. Seems like I'm always to steps behind you on upgrades!
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Great thread Topher, rig looks great!

Appears you have really run through the options for stiffening and and weighting the truck down low. Would be curious to know what overall weight you have gotten her up to. I get the sense you are considering pulling some weight off?
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Nice upgrades TB!

Looking forward to hearing how the new battery tray works out. I do like the looks of it and the front servo mount.

My STRC servo/mount brace just came in yesterday. Hoping to get it installed this weekend. Seems like I'm always to steps behind you on upgrades!
Haha I hadnít realized it before but now re-reading this Iíve had this truck set up quite differently each time Iíve had it out. Hoping this latest trim is here to stay.

I also recently posted a video on Instagram that made me realize the transmission was louder than it should have been. I tore it down and realized I had the wrong middle gear in and have fixed that and itís much quieter now, my mistake before also prevented me from the full OD benefit so Iím even more excited to get it out now.

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Great thread Topher, rig looks great!

Appears you have really run through the options for stiffening and and weighting the truck down low. Would be curious to know what overall weight you have gotten her up to. I get the sense you are considering pulling some weight off?
Thanks Smog! Iíve taken the 10.2 brass chubs off as I wasnít super happy with the fit. At this point the added on weight pieces are the beef tubes front axle, ssd brass knuckles, and ssd rear weights. I have the ssd brass wheel hubs in front which add 40g per side, but is rotational of course. Based on my very scientific scale (weigh myself, then weigh myself holding the truck lol) itís at 7.4 lbs with battery, interior, and driver. Iím not planning on adding any more weight but will get the aluminum ssd chubs at some point to replace the plastic ones, and will also replace the diff covers.
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Nice man! Mine has been a goat. Definitely get that 12% overdrive set up right! I don't nearly have as much weight as you do, and my chassis isn't even stiffened up yet. Just too many projects! . I do have a bunch of parts waiting to be put on though. I will be attempting to stiffen up the chassis by adding additional stock plastic chassis braces first to keep the weight off of the top. My RTR is definitely not going to be my best performing Enduro, and that's mostly because of the cage and the weight it adds as well as the way I have to set up the shocks for it (despite it doing very well). When I get around to my builder's kit, I'm definitely going to tweak that as much as I can for performance.

I'm still waiting for the shock hoop/panhard mounts from SSD and Club5. I almost went with the Samix, but I wanted to see the SSD and Club5 versions first. The Club5 is supposed to be a double-shear design, so I really was interested in that, but he's got some delays now because of the whole US/China tariff situation. A lot of companies have scrambled to move back some of their production back to Taiwan (which I'm all for), so it's hard for him to get his designs manufactured in front of others.
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Nice man! Mine has been a goat. Definitely get that 12% overdrive set up right! I don't nearly have as much weight as you do, and my chassis isn't even stiffened up yet. Just too many projects!
I'm in pretty much the same boat. The only weight adders that I have are the Beef Tubes knuckles and whatever weight the wheels & foams add. I'm not sure I'm going to add any more weight unless I run into situations where this truck fails to do what I expect.

The only iminent mod that I forsee is, like you, chassis stiffening, but I'll be doing it in my usual cheap-ass way (after all, I AM Budget RC!). I bought some 3mm ID aluminum tubing (6mm OD) that I'm going to cut to length and add to some of the unused holes in the chassis as well as across the shock towers. It should stiffen the truck up nicely without adding much weight or cost.
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I'm in pretty much the same boat. The only weight adders that I have are the Beef Tubes knuckles and whatever weight the wheels & foams add. I'm not sure I'm going to add any more weight unless I run into situations where this truck fails to do what I expect.

The only iminent mod that I forsee is, like you, chassis stiffening, but I'll be doing it in my usual cheap-ass way (after all, I AM Budget RC!). I bought some 3mm ID aluminum tubing (6mm OD) that I'm going to cut to length and add to some of the unused holes in the chassis as well as across the shock towers. It should stiffen the truck up nicely without adding much weight or cost.
I like that approach. If you don’t mine sharing the measurements you end up with that would be nice to have.

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Nice man! Mine has been a goat. Definitely get that 12% overdrive set up right! I don't nearly have as much weight as you do, and my chassis isn't even stiffened up yet. Just too many projects! . I do have a bunch of parts waiting to be put on though. I will be attempting to stiffen up the chassis by adding additional stock plastic chassis braces first to keep the weight off of the top. My RTR is definitely not going to be my best performing Enduro, and that's mostly because of the cage and the weight it adds as well as the way I have to set up the shocks for it (despite it doing very well). When I get around to my builder's kit, I'm definitely going to tweak that as much as I can for performance.

I'm still waiting for the shock hoop/panhard mounts from SSD and Club5. I almost went with the Samix, but I wanted to see the SSD and Club5 versions first. The Club5 is supposed to be a double-shear design, so I really was interested in that, but he's got some delays now because of the whole US/China tariff situation. A lot of companies have scrambled to move back some of their production back to Taiwan (which I'm all for), so it's hard for him to get his designs manufactured in front of others.
That’s a bummer about the delay, I’m interested in seeing those mounts as well. Your sendero is climbing pretty darn well from the vids I’ve seen, looking forward to seeing what you end up doing with the kit.
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I like that approach. If you don’t mine sharing the measurements you end up with that would be nice to have.
If I remember, I'll check the measurements next time I'm on my PC at home. I already measured the width of the rails because I designed & printed a new front bumper mount.

BTW, these are the bars I bought:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/L-10CM-OD-3...72.m2749.l2649

3mm ID, 5mm OD. They're long enough that I should be able to get 2 braces out of each bar.
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Jim, I used your EBay rod link. AND, I’ve got some brown and tan paint that goes in an airbrush I’ll send out to you if you’re still into a Colt Seivers edition Barrage. I’m outta town helping my step-mom with knee replacement (wish I’d known about the rods, could saved a shittonne on Ti if we coulda held her down for the Dremel Dremel work...just the left knee—-No, the right!!!)/ back Sunday. The paint will need to be REEELY WELL SHAKEN...kinda old. I’ll PM when I get back.

Topher, Jim: These Aluminium rods, you threading them or just get in there with a short screw & machine washer?


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If I remember, I'll check the measurements next time I'm on my PC at home. I already measured the width of the rails because I designed & printed a new front bumper mount.

BTW, these are the bars I bought:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/L-10CM-OD-3...72.m2749.l2649

3mm ID, 5mm OD. They're long enough that I should be able to get 2 braces out of each bar.

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Old 12-06-2019, 10:06 PM   #74
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48 degrees with some humidity and a couple of tumbles and the paint was flying off the body today. Thinking itís time for a new body and to repaint the sendero and keep it for light trail duty instead of trying hard lines.

Wasnít super thrilled with the boom racing hustlers but being that it was cold, a little wet, and these foams seem too firm Iím going to give them another shot and try some different foams.

Didnít take many pics but you can see the paint missing in a few spots in this pic, my driver also should have worn his seatbelt
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Jim, I used your EBay rod link. AND, Iíve got some brown and tan paint that goes in an airbrush Iíll send out to you if youíre still into a Colt Seivers edition Barrage. Iím outta town helping my step-mom with knee replacement (wish Iíd known about the rods, could saved a shittonne on Ti if we coulda held her down for the Dremel Dremel work...just the left kneeó-No, the right!!!)/ back Sunday. The paint will need to be REEELY WELL SHAKEN...kinda old. Iíll PM when I get back.

Topher, Jim: These Aluminium rods, you threading them or just get in there with a short screw & machine washer?
Cool deal about the paint. Thanks!

As for the rods, I haven't tried them yet, but they're probably soft enough to thread an M3 screw right in. In my case, I'll run my M3 tap into each end first.
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my driver also should have worn his seatbelt
What! No seatbelts!!!

Man, the Sendero looks like an old beat up truck now!

I often wondered how good them Hustler tires were. I almost bought a set when they first came out, but just wasn't too sure if they were worth the money. Cold and a little wet is my normal operating conditions, so they may not work for me!
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Didnít take many pics but you can see the paint missing in a few spots in this pic, my driver also should have worn his seatbelt
I thought he was reaching down to pick up his Beer.
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Well, after the last run I decided to change some things up again. The boom racing hustlers are coming off for now and Iíll try them again in the spring when itís hotter out.

Iím a big fan of the class 1 km3s from proline so I decided to give the tall tires a shot. Snagged some Ssd slots to throw them on as those should go along well with the new body. Using some PL dual stage foams I had around to stuff the tires.

The sendero body is also going to be retired till warmer weather. After the last run Iíll need to repaint the whole thing. The new body will be a proline 66 C10 can and bed.

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Nice combo. I have the same on my sendero except I run CI single stage foams.
Works great and looks good!

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Can't wait to see the '66 Chevy. That is one body that I really like and have been wanting to get.

I've heard great things about the larger KM3's. I too have the Class 1's and love they way they look and feel. I haven't bought a set of the larger cause they were a little too tall for the bodies that I run.
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