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Old 07-20-2019, 05:01 PM   #21
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If you arent fancy with 3d printing, just take your ratchet socket set and pop your hex into the metric 12mm still on the rack, and git er done!
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And yes Casey I just called you fancy lol

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Old 07-20-2019, 05:47 PM   #22
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Jim Bob doesn't take kindly to this fancy talkin!



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Old 07-20-2019, 08:10 PM   #23
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I've been staring at the tranny and skid plate all morning thinking about how I can lower the tranny. I even started a new skid CAD design. I ended up settling on just modding the stock parts because without making a skid thats lower than stock with link locations that are also lower I couldn't get the tranny any lower.

So this happened (I used a fine toothed hand saw) a new tranny case is $12.99 BTW for those that are timid.


Then I took it to my belt sander for a little clean up and maybe another millimeter or so.


Then I carved up (and filed) the skid where the tranny mounts at an angle. This is because the outer most holes cant rally be thinned out any while the inner holes can be. I took off maybe 2mm here on the inner portion.



The motor plate and cover also need some trimming





You'll need to use shorter screws to mount the tranny after this, for the short screws I used 6mm and the longer screws were 12mm though 10mm might be safer (12mm is pushing it). I'm happy to report theres still a good amount of thread grab even with these shorter screws.

Whether you can go as low as I did may depend on what motor and pinion you use. I'm using a 14t pinion and a smaller 500 series motor.

So I think overall the tranny is 4.5-5mm lower now and I think since it was rotated a bit the motor is likely a touch lower than that.

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That must have taken a steady hand!

You should add this to the free mods section, too...
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Old 07-20-2019, 10:10 PM   #25
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Nice Casey! Definitely interested to hear what you think after wheeling it!
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Nice work on lowering the trans. I’m curious to see how it does.


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Old 07-21-2019, 11:09 AM   #27
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I like the lowering of the trans too!! great job!! It must be nice being brave, cutting the skid would scare me!!!!
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Old 07-21-2019, 11:33 AM   #28
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That must have taken a steady hand!

You should add this to the free mods section, too...
I took my time on this, using good sharp tools also helps. Added it to the free mods post, thanks for the reminder.



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Nice work on lowering the trans. I’m curious to see how it does.


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We'll see if I can tell the difference, I only drove it once so far so I might not notice. I just know lowering the CG is always a good thing so I didn't bother with any testing to help me compare before and after.




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I like the lowering of the trans too!! great job!! It must be nice being brave, cutting the skid would scare me!!!!

I had a spare tranny case on hand which helped me take the plunge.
I was also waiting on some glue to dry, up next is waiting on the paint to dry so I had a good opening to tinker with the chassis in the mean time.
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Great work with the skid and trans mods. Very interesting. Looking forward to hearing about your experience with it after wheeling more.
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Old 07-21-2019, 11:12 PM   #30
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Great work Casey!
Somebody should try this with the RTR motor to see how low they can get it.
And good thing you mentioned the mount screw depth.
I remember pics from somebody who found out the hard way long screws in the wrong place will destroy the gears.

Thanks for being fancy in the right places Casey!
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...They make various versions, some have a step to fit Axial wheels (which I really dislike, I'm done drilling out wheels to make these work) and they come in various thickness's. Stock Enduro is 6mm so I just stuck with that.
Great jig you designed and freed up there, agreed done drilling out wheels.

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Fantastic idea on the battery tray.

Love the body and thanks for the detailed build thread.

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Last night I was checking the inner fenders to see if they would work with the slider/side trays which I've moved and I just wanted to post up what I found here too.

The sliders were moved forward 13mm and where the inner fender mounts to the trays (see the divots) there is a flat spot that extends just far enough to poke 2 new mount holes so in theory this should work after the sliders are moved.

I got the back of the cab glued on earlier today using some E6000 and magnets to keep it tight and clamped. I've only glued the very top for now since I need to bend the rest (the sides) of the back portion, so it will be done in 2 phases. Its hard to see but I've cut a slit at each of the upper corners so I can bend this back piece to my liking, I need to do this so I can hide the rear most side window.
Great job on the sliders and good idea slitting rear of cab and only gluing one edge at a time to get it all just right!



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So you need to add a shortened PU bed, then we get Jim Bob!!
Yeah its a Southern thang!


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Heck ya! Do it, bobbed ProLine cage bed or!

Will you trim off front of frame and build a metal bumper?

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I've been staring at the tranny and skid plate all morning thinking about how I can lower the tranny. I even started a new skid CAD design. I ended up settling on just modding the stock parts because without making a skid thats lower than stock with link locations that are also lower I couldn't get the tranny any lower.

So this happened (I used a fine toothed hand saw) a new tranny case is $12.99 BTW for those that are timid.
Then I took it to my belt sander for a little clean up and maybe another millimeter or so.

Then I carved up (and filed) the skid where the tranny mounts at an angle. This is because the outer most holes cant rally be thinned out any while the inner holes can be. I took off maybe 2mm here on the inner portion.

You'll need to use shorter screws to mount the tranny after this, for the short screws I used 6mm and the longer screws were 12mm though 10mm might be safer (12mm is pushing it). I'm happy to report theres still a good amount of thread grab even with these shorter screws.

Whether you can go as low as I did may depend on what motor and pinion you use. I'm using a 14t pinion and a smaller 500 series motor.

So I think overall the tranny is 4.5-5mm lower now and I think since it was rotated a bit the motor is likely a touch lower than that.
Awesome!
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Great work with the skid and trans mods. Very interesting. Looking forward to hearing about your experience with it after wheeling more.
Thanks, I cant say that I really felt a difference or that I knew the truck well enough to. Its a safe bet that a Lower CG is gonna be better though.

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Great work Casey!
Somebody should try this with the RTR motor to see how low they can get it.
And good thing you mentioned the mount screw depth.
I remember pics from somebody who found out the hard way long screws in the wrong place will destroy the gears.

Thanks for being fancy in the right places Casey!
Yeah I remembered those pictures as well so I made sure to check and double check the depth.

No problem, I love making tools!

Thanks Nate!

I dont know if I'll do a bobbed bed or not but I would really like to call it Jim Bob so I may try, but the plan was to come up with a cage for the rear. Its a really skinny body so I'll need to either make my own or narrow one up a bunch.

Front bumper I'll either design and print something or fab up a metal one. 3D printing is so much easier for stuff like this and It can be pretty strong and light so I'm leaning towards that. the front of the chassis will be getting cut eventually I'm just waiting to get the body location nailed down and a bumper design so I know how much I need to cut and how much I need to leave so it can be mounted properly.

I took a little break while the glue on the body cured and I got a bit side tracked building the SSD Trail King (I'm waiting to see if it gets its own section). I was really trying to focus on just one at a time but I couldn't help myself.

If I can get all the excess E6000 off the body I should be able to start the paint tonight, so far just rubbing and getting some friction seems to work best


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So you need to add a shortened PU bed, then we get Jim Bob!!
Yeah its a Southern thang!


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I dont know how I glossed over this comment, Thank you Mike that is a great idea!

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Old 07-29-2019, 05:06 PM   #33
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I've made a little bit of progress on Jim Bob.

I got the rear inner fenders to mount up even though I scooted the rock sliders forward. I was lucky that when I roughly cut them out I left a bit extra on the end that mounts to the sliders.


You can see the divots and cut line for the stock location



Since the front axle pinion comes pointing up (I'd guess likely to lessen the steepness of the drivehshaft angle) I shortened the upper link in order to rotate the axle back (putting it parallel with the ground) to provide a bit more caster. (I lowered my tranny so I'm not too worried about the driveshaft angle)

Just showing the pinion angle


I also printed up some spacers to go on the body posts that take up the extra space left when using a lexan body (the body would rattle around without it)


And I've been slowly chipping away at the design for the rear cage. It took 5-6 iterations to get it to this single piece of the cage fine tuned. I dont have a scanner, I just use calipers, a ruler and my eye so it can be slow and tedious sometimes.

This is close to the final shape but I let the holes pass all the way through this version so I could mock it up and drill out the mounting holes on the body.


Seeing the rear inner fenders with the body has made me wonder if I want a simple triangulated crawler cage or a utility sort or rack, good thing I'm moving slow so I have time to think about it.


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Old 07-29-2019, 05:37 PM   #34
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Oh, wow...

I just knew some out-of-the-box thinking was headed our way on this rig!

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Old 07-29-2019, 08:55 PM   #35
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Walllllll I be a likin JimBob !!
Yup. Flatbed or utility mightee Fineee!!!!


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Flatbed or utility mightee Fineee!!!!


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Thanks guys

Last night I painted the cab and inner fenders.

I painted the inner fenders black and both sides because I didn't want the shiny clear coat look you get when painting the inside, plus this will be seen from both sides when done. anyway its black and nobody really needs to see that so I'll move on to the main course.

Tamiya PS-59 dark metallic blue on the outside, inside was Tamiya PS-12 silver for the first layer and then Tamiya PS-5 black.
I used the outer masking to mask the windows, using a x-acto to cut the window outline. The cutout/masking for the windows on the out side was a little bigger than the inside so it left a little silver trim line which was a nice little mistake which I kind of like.
I applied the paint in light coats to keep the sheen low, if you lay it on thicker it has a higher sheen to it but I wanted it slightly subdued. I usually avoid metallic paints but I'm really happy with the results from painting the outside.




I'm really pleased with the blue and bronze combo


The headlight stickers came out less than stellar, they wrinkled up a bit on the edges, I'm guessing a heat gun could possibly help with this but I dont have one.

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Old 07-31-2019, 07:20 AM   #38
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Great color choice! I like how the color turned out. Cool little mistake on the window masking. I really like the how the silver trim shows around the windows.
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The cutout/masking for the windows on the out side was a little bigger than the inside so it left a little silver trim line which was a nice little mistake which I kind of like.
As Bob Ross says, a "happy little accident" Entire rig look great!
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Old 07-31-2019, 10:45 AM   #40
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Awesome! Looks like Jim Bob's going to have great body clearance!

Could be shaping up to be quite the performer!
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