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Old 03-24-2020, 09:40 PM   #1
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Default Suspension tuning - why is Element substandard?

I appreciate that this is subjective, but I canít seem to get my Sendero to handle like I want. This weekend I took my gen8 (stock suspension) and my 410pro out and the enduro couldnít hang. I have experienced this over and over no matter what tires I use. It seems to get better if I use soft foams but even then the rig doesnít handle as well as I like.

Iím running the axe 3100kv system and my rigs are all on the faster side. I THINK the problem is that the enduro is so light that it bounces with the stock settings. It is really bad when I go small wheel and tire on the rig.

Has anyone come up with a setup for trail running that they like using lighter springs and oils? I think thatís the way I need to go, but uncertain. Iím now running the utility bed in back and it seems really unsettled when I gun it. It simply doesnít hook up and the back end fishtails I hate it.



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Old 03-25-2020, 04:59 AM   #2
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Default Re: Suspension tuning - why is Element substandard?

Drain the oil out of all the shocks and run it and see how the suspension works. Slow motion video with your phone may help. Start there to see if the springs are too stiff then make decisions on what you see vs what you want.
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Old 03-25-2020, 07:01 AM   #3
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Default Re: Suspension tuning - why is Element substandard?

Yup, absolutely.

I switched to Losi 15wt oil and white AE springs at the back and I love the way mine trails now. Trailing is all I do (no rock crawling).

AE made a lot of mistakes with their first crawler release -- crazy stiff and bouncy is just one of them.





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Has anyone come up with a setup for trail running that they like using lighter springs and oils?
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Old 03-25-2020, 08:28 AM   #4
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Evidence...




I should also mention that I did not fill the shocks to the top, leaving about an 1/8 inch gap. But that's just me. I like droop, and the way the body sits relative to the wheels on this rig.

In this clip from before I did the shock work, you can clearly see the rig bounce around to the extent that it is hard to keep it pointed in the right direction. It's not like that anymore.

https://youtu.be/m1p4Lu3oGZk?t=555

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