Go Back   RCCrawler Forums > Scale Rigs Brand Specific Tech > Element RC 1/10 Enduro Trail Truck Sendero
Loading

Notices

Thread: Front axle facing up – driveshaft in wrong angle

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 05-24-2022, 01:29 PM   #1
Newbie
 
Join Date: May 2020
Location: Belgium
Posts: 22
Default Front axle facing up – driveshaft in wrong angle

After two TRX-4’s it was time for something different, time for a Gatekeeper kit.
The build is done, but I’m not sure about the setup.

The front pumpkin is slightly facing up, making the driveshaft facing down.
I checked the length of the links and made some slight corrections, but it has no effect on the angle of the axle/pumpkin.


What could be wrong with my setup ?
According to the manual, the upper link should be 122mm, rod ends included.
Should I adjust the length of the link to correct the angle ?
Omsk is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Old 05-24-2022, 01:46 PM   #2
I wanna be Dave
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Humboldt county
Posts: 4,482
Default Re: Front axle facing up – driveshaft in wrong angle

Any pics?

Are we talking angled up slightly or like a ton?

Angling them up a bit isn't a problem and I think all of my Enduro have a bit of this. I've even added a bit more angle on some.

Since its not a high pinion like and Axial rig its kind of nice for a bit of extra clearance.

EDIT: I missread that, having the driveshaft angled down is not ideal. Personally I would simply adjust the length of the links, shorten the lowers and lengthen the uppers. You can do this by using shorter or longer rod ends or cutting down the stock ones (and typically grinding down the threaded ends to allow the shorter rods to fit).

Last edited by HumboldtEF; 05-24-2022 at 01:50 PM.
HumboldtEF is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-24-2022, 02:12 PM   #3
Newbie
 
Join Date: May 2020
Location: Belgium
Posts: 22
Default Re: Front axle facing up – driveshaft in wrong angle

Quote:
Originally Posted by HumboldtEF View Post
Any pics?

Are we talking angled up slightly or like a ton?

Angling them up a bit isn't a problem and I think all of my Enduro have a bit of this. I've even added a bit more angle on some.

Since its not a high pinion like and Axial rig its kind of nice for a bit of extra clearance.

EDIT: I missread that, having the driveshaft angled down is not ideal. Personally I would simply adjust the length of the links, shorten the lowers and lengthen the uppers. You can do this by using shorter or longer rod ends or cutting down the stock ones (and typically grinding down the threaded ends to allow the shorter rods to fit).
Thanks HumboldtEF!
I tried taking pictures, but couldn't get the right perspective to clearly show the problem.
I’ll try adjusting the links tomorrow.
Omsk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-24-2022, 02:41 PM   #4
I wanna be Dave
 
Join Date: Sep 2019
Location: US
Posts: 2,408
Default Re: Front axle facing up – driveshaft in wrong angle

Try sightly shortening the lower links and/or lengthening the upper links, until the driveshaft entering the pumpkin (fully compressed AND fully extended) is say the desired angle.


~ More peace, love, laughter, & kindness would make the world a MUCH better place
Panther6834 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-24-2022, 03:23 PM   #5
Pebble Pounder
 
Join Date: Sep 2021
Location: Canada
Posts: 114
Default Re: Front axle facing up – driveshaft in wrong angle

Might be a stupid question, but do you have the lower links in the top and vice-versa?
islandlife is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-24-2022, 03:47 PM   #6
Rock Crawler
 
Join Date: Jan 2022
Location: st louis
Posts: 574
Default Re: Front axle facing up – driveshaft in wrong angle

You have the links in wrong. Either mixed up the front and the rear, top and bottom or mounted to the wrong holes in the frame/skid.

Sent from my SM-S906U using Tapatalk
tigris99 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 05-24-2022, 06:20 PM   #7
I wanna be Dave
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Humboldt county
Posts: 4,482
Default Re: Front axle facing up – driveshaft in wrong angle

Quote:
Originally Posted by tigris99 View Post
You have the links in wrong. Either mixed up the front and the rear, top and bottom or mounted to the wrong holes in the frame/skid.

Sent from my SM-S906U using Tapatalk

Yeah you could have mixed the links up but you cannot mount the links in the wrong holes and have the driveshaft pointing down, it would point up.
HumboldtEF is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-24-2022, 10:29 PM   #8
Newbie
 
Join Date: May 2020
Location: Belgium
Posts: 22
Default Re: Front axle facing up – driveshaft in wrong angle

Quote:
Originally Posted by islandlife View Post
Might be a stupid question, but do you have the lower links in the top and vice-versa?

Not a stupid question, I double checked and they are in the right place.
Omsk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-24-2022, 10:39 PM   #9
Newbie
 
Join Date: May 2020
Location: Belgium
Posts: 22
Default Re: Front axle facing up – driveshaft in wrong angle

Quote:
Originally Posted by tigris99 View Post
You have the links in wrong. Either mixed up the front and the rear, top and bottom or mounted to the wrong holes in the frame/skid.
I guess so, it’s the only explanation .
I’ll check it once again.


The front lower links should be fine – they’re the high clearance that came with the kit. The manual only shows instructions for the straight links.
I guess that the length of the links should be the same, regardless of straight or high clearance ?
Omsk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-24-2022, 10:58 PM   #10
Newbie
 
Join Date: May 2020
Location: Belgium
Posts: 22
Default Re: Front axle facing up – driveshaft in wrong angle

The front axle has two mounting points for the upper links.

According to the manual, the upper link should be connected to the frame on the drive-side.
In connected the upper link to the axle on the mounting side on the passenger-side.

Did I mix this one up ?
Omsk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-24-2022, 11:40 PM   #11
Newbie
 
Join Date: May 2020
Location: Belgium
Posts: 22
Default Re: Front axle facing up – driveshaft in wrong angle

Quote:
Originally Posted by Omsk View Post
Did I mix this one up ?

I probably did.


Oh man, that manual is so unclear.
Omsk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-24-2022, 11:59 PM   #12
I wanna be Dave
 
Join Date: Sep 2019
Location: US
Posts: 2,408
Default Re: Front axle facing up – driveshaft in wrong angle

Quote:
Originally Posted by Omsk View Post
The front axle has two mounting points for the upper links.



According to the manual, the upper link should be connected to the frame on the drive-side.

In connected the upper link to the axle on the mounting side on the passenger-side.



Did I mix this one up ?
From what you said, that sounds like you're describing a panhard link, not a front-upper link. If have to look at the manual, as, in building my GK, I installed the IFS Kit.


~ More peace, love, laughter, & kindness would make the world a MUCH better place
Panther6834 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-25-2022, 09:44 AM   #13
Newbie
 
Join Date: May 2020
Location: Belgium
Posts: 22
Default Re: Front axle facing up – driveshaft in wrong angle

So I changed the connection of the front upper link on the axle, from the passenger-side to the driver-side. As it would be if it was a 4-link setup (and I guess as it should have been).
The angle of the pumpkin/axle is now as it should be.

Fooled by the manual .
Sigh ...
Omsk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-25-2022, 09:56 AM   #14
Go Buckeyes!
 
B-MOW71's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Mid-Ohio
Posts: 4,134
Default Re: Front axle facing up – driveshaft in wrong angle

Glad to hear you have it figured out. The manual isn't really clear and if I remember right, it shows straight links instead of the high clearance links that come with the Gatekeeper Kit.

Here is a pic of how mine is for a comparison.

Name:  IMG_8195 (2).jpg
Views: 206
Size:  179.3 KB
B-MOW71 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-25-2022, 10:40 AM   #15
Newbie
 
Join Date: May 2020
Location: Belgium
Posts: 22
Default Re: Front axle facing up – driveshaft in wrong angle

Thanks,

That's a nice setup !
Omsk is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply



Front axle facing up – driveshaft in wrong angle - Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Motor mount facing front option xv-townboy Element RC 1/10 Enduro Trail Truck Sendero 2 04-03-2020 04:42 AM
Front driveshaft pinion angle for Enduro MechDave7 Element RC 1/10 Enduro Trail Truck Sendero 1 08-21-2019 03:56 PM
Losi mrc steering angle options/front axle shafts xiteamxi Losi Mini-Rock Crawler 5 04-03-2013 01:33 PM
trans facing wrong way?? troy95chevy Axial SCX-10 5 08-21-2011 06:33 PM
BB-51 front driveshaft angle JasonInAugusta General Scale Talk 33 03-12-2007 05:52 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 06:04 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO ©2011, Crawlability, Inc.
Copyright 2004-2014 RCCrawler.com