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Old 04-10-2009, 04:45 PM   #1
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Default KK high clearance tie-rod vs. CKRC OTA tie-rod vs. ??

I can't seem to decide what type of steering setup to go with on my Berg... but after a little time on the rocks it's clear that my stock tie-rod sucks. It's limiting the steering by hitting the gear case before I reach full lock, and it's banging into every rock.

A lot of guys around here run the CKRC tie rod, but most say that it leaves the servo horn open to getting broken/bent often....

A few guys have suggested the KK tie-rod, looks like a pretty good setup. I like that it uses revo rod ends instead of the axial ends that the CKRC tie-rod uses. Though, I'm not sure if it will fit my Axial aluminum knuckles. It also looks to have slightly less clearance, though being made of Delrin I'm guessing it slides well on the rocks....

I would jump on Yotachump's CDW OTA steering kit, but it won't work with my 20* clocked front axle.

Any tips, suggestions, advice?

basically I'm looking for something high clearance, reliable and strong that will give me as much steering as possible.

Thanks.
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Old 04-10-2009, 05:05 PM   #2
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yotachumps steering system is worth a look, seems like one of the cleanest out at the moment. I'd get it if mine didnt work or even if I had the extra loot
not what you asked but just my 2 cents

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Old 04-10-2009, 05:19 PM   #3
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I am using Kamikaze's steering with Axial knuckles with no problems. Just had to shorten it slightly because of the angle of the Axial parts. I put it in the inner hole and cut the outer hole off the knuckles.The KK steering arm actually guards my servo horn. It is slick and has never gave me any trouble with hanging on the rocks.
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Old 04-10-2009, 05:55 PM   #4
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brandon ..use a robitronics servo horn no matter what set up you run. you won't bend or break that one! i ran the ckrc set up until i changed it. you can check out my steering that "special person " made for me
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brandon ..use a robitronics servo horn no matter what set up you run. you won't bend or break that one! i ran the ckrc set up until i changed it. you can check out my steering that "special person " made for me
I was thinking of grabbing one of those horn's, but I was unsure about the extra length.

What's this secret steering you're running Dan?
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I am using Kamikaze's steering with Axial knuckles with no problems. Just had to shorten it slightly because of the angle of the Axial parts. I put it in the inner hole and cut the outer hole off the knuckles.The KK steering arm actually guards my servo horn. It is slick and has never gave me any trouble with hanging on the rocks.
Cool, thanks for the info. do you get same steering angle with the axial knuckles as you would with cut down Berg knuckles?
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Old 04-10-2009, 09:08 PM   #7
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Just run the CKRC sterring for right know. Let me know if you want to i have one more left it works great. Now if we can get Mr Chump to make a steering kit for a 20* or 30* then i would say use his but for now CKRC is the best.

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Just run the CKRC sterring for right know. Let me know if you want to i have one more left it works great. Now if we can get Mr Chump to make a steering kit foe a 20* or 30* then i would say use his but for now CKRC is the best.
oh, sweet dude. I almost ordered one today. Just haven't been able to make up my damn mind... lol

I would love to get rid of this crappy stock steering before the comp next sunday.

We'll have to get some spy pics of Dan's rig at the comp
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Anytime just let me know when you want it.
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Nuff said.
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Nuff said.
Is that before or after the CVD's?
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Is that before or after the CVD's?
The black one is before, the white is after. The throw is the same, moving the hole back and out changes the geometry of the steering so you get full lock from both tires at the same time. I don't think any one else can claim that. That and its cheap.
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Old 04-10-2009, 11:13 PM   #13
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This is an area of my truck that I feel is a weak point that I have not adressed yet. It will be comming soon, but right now I am running kamikazes tie rod with some ghetto arse rod ends that make it almost too long and I still get O.K steering
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the behind the axle kits are great, but I do not think they really help all that much. The simplicity of the KK steering works 98% as well, and does not have as many parts that could cause trouble.
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But its delrin :-(
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But its delrin :-(
Why is that a problem?
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Why is that a problem?
I've seen about 3 trucks with them and they all pulled the threads out.
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I've seen about 3 trucks with them and they all pulled the threads out.

Then they should have contacted me to get it replaced. I have sold a ton of them, and have only replaced one. I would figure if someone broke something that had a free replacement that was only one email away they would do it.....
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I went with the CDW OTA Set up.

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As a mater of fact, I have never had a replacement where someone claimed they pulled the threads out. There is 100% thread depth in all the links and tie rods I sell. You would have to tear the rod end up pretty bad to pull the threads out, especially since there is more thread in the delrin then there is in the rod end. I'm calling bs....
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