Berg Inner Axle Shaft Fix Since I have been running Holmes Hobbies 45T Hand Wound Motors. I have been breaking the pins off the inner axle shafts. When my wife broke a pin off this weekend running Integy 55T V11 it started getting old. I bought a few sets of spares but with the limited parts carriers for bergs out there I figured I would try to come up with a solution on how to fix or replace the pins on the broken shafts because that is all that is wrong with them. I am sick of paying for spare shafts and paying for the shipping, that is if you can find them instock. I have seen a few people that I know break the pins also. So I thought I would try to locate a replcement pin. I came up with some HPI pins that are close to the same length as the stock berg inner shaft pins. I measure the width of the pin and the original stock berg pin was .500" and the replacement HPI pins was .460". Since I am using axial stub shafts do to the increase stength, I also measured the pin width on a axial inner shaft and it measured at .420". I then stuck the replacement pin after it was installed on a repaired shaft into the outer stub shaft and it seems like it will work fine. I will do some testing with it to see if there will be any problems but I believe there will not be. Berg inner long shaft with a broken pin: http://www.thexota.org/d/15188-1/013_002.JPG http://www.thexota.org/d/15194-1/016_002.JPG I then punched the remaining portion of the pin out of the center of the shaft. I did 4 shafts and 2 of the pins was a major pain to get out. I started with a beefier center punch to move the pin and then used a standard punch that was smaller than the pin diameter to punch it out the remainder of the way. http://www.thexota.org/d/15200-1/018_001.JPG Here is the remainder of the pin sitting next to the shaft that the pin came out of: http://www.thexota.org/d/15200-1/018_001.JPG The remaining portion of the pins from three of the four shafts: http://www.thexota.org/d/15206-1/020_001.JPG Here is what I used for the replacement pins. The Part Number is Z260 from HPI. 12 come in a package for $3.00 at my LHS. .25 cents to repair a shaft versus $6.00 to $7.00 a pair plus shipping for replacement shafts. (Somewhere around $12.50 to my door with shipping) The pin size is 2.5mm X 12mm. http://www.thexota.org/d/15212-1/022_001.JPG I started installing the pins on the four using my vise as a press. I have aluminum jaws so the pins did not get gawled. Once they were started I tapped them in the rest of the way with the flat side of a ball peen hammer. Make sure you take your time to get the pins in with even length on both sides of the shaft. http://www.thexota.org/d/15215-1/024_001.JPG http://www.thexota.org/d/15221-1/026_001.JPG Here is a comparison of the replacement pin versus the original pin: The original is on the right and the replacement is on the left: http://www.thexota.org/d/15233-1/030_001.JPG http://www.thexota.org/d/15236-1/031_001.JPG Here is a picture of a replacement pin shaft in a used beat up Axial stub so you can see the pin clearly goes from one side to the other: http://www.thexota.org/d/15242-1/033_001.JPG Here is a picture of a original inner berg shaft in the same axial stub shaft. http://www.thexota.org/d/15248-1/035_001.JPG Here is the original berg shaft showing the measurement: http://www.thexota.org/d/15251-1/036_001.JPG And a picture of the replacement pin shaft. http://www.thexota.org/d/15254-1/037_001.JPG Again I will put them in a run them to see if there is any problems but I do not believe there will be. If you have any questions feel free to ask. |
I hope that works for you. If it does,I may have to try it. I've got over a dozen shafts here with broke pins. A few more that the ball section of the shaft exploded. I went as far as getting some drill rod the correct size (.098" if I remember right) from our vendors at work and making the pins out of that. That didn't cut it. |
If it's a turning axle, do you think the shorter pin will cause problems at max steering angle (coming out of the slots?) |
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I was originally worried about that but that is the reason I measured the axial inner shaft pin. It is actually shorter than the replacement pin. Most berg guys run axial stubs and you can run axial knuckles so I wouldn't think it would to short. You are talking about a .020" differance per side. Pin lengths: Axial = .420" REplacement = .460" Berg = .500" |
****ing sweet! im buying a set of those things, ive got a few broken berg shafts at home. even if they break like the stock ones theyre cheaper to replace. |
i did the same thing but i used a old drill bit and used that fixed shaft for MSD nationals last week and didn't fail like my driving did |
wow sweet I paid 80.00 plus shipping for a set of "killer" shafts for my berg and after waiting a month for them 1 of them fell apart and after another month of SLOWWWWWWW communication with the vendor still no shaft replacement. They said I broke it in the grass!!!!! anyway Great idea, I am gonna stock up on these puppys!!!"thumbsup" |
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Good work Tom! "thumbsup" |
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awesome! so glad you didnt keep this a secret lol!!! nice work and thanks. |
Although I've yet to bust a pin that's a great fix. How much for the dust collecting bender? :ror: |
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awsome info.. glad someone did it. |
damn... i bought the pins at the LHS, ive got 3 old broken shafts sitting here and i cannot get these ****ing pis out! its so frustrating to have $60k in tools in your garage and get your ass kicked by a stupid rc car part! |
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If your LHS stocks any Associated parts you might be in luck. The MGT uses 2.5x12mm axle pins as well. I don't have a part number handy. But being that it's an AE part over the HPI part, AE will be cheaper. |
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the HPI pins cost $3.00 for 12 of them, im not sure i'd want something cheaper. lol! |
Thanks for this thread Cruzin "thumbsup" After seeing it I was able to find some longer pins on McMaster. I posted the info here in my build thread. |
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