NewRed Hobbies January 30

[chicostaxxs007]

its on i mite bring 4 trucks if my sons let me

[kennyj]

Originally Posted by Scattman

Yes, although I personally like to keep them tucked in for better looks.

I may just bolt on a set of regular 2.2 wheels and tires, it would perform much better than the narrow setup I have on it now.

Wheelbase and width: The dimensions of the vehicle are limited only by the body, but it must fit within the body’s fender wells - Doesn't this say no. That will cut a ton of people out of the comp.

[chicostaxxs007]

Originally Posted by kennyj

Wheelbase and width: The dimensions of the vehicle are limited only by the body, but it must fit within the body’s fender wells - Doesn't this say no. That will cut a ton of people out of the comp.

i think if your wheels are wider then your body you fit in class:2 trail rigs,its all new to me

[yoda@4x4]

2.1 No maximum or minimum wheelbase limit. Wheelbase should 'fit' truck concept/body.


As of 2011 rules for TTC




TTC/KOH/extreme trail truck
1. Tires

1.1 Maximum tire outside diameter of 5.75” as measured.

1.2 Tire diameter and width may be reduced, enlarged or combined with other scale tire treads
as desired. The modified tire diameter measurement will be taken with the tire/wheel laying on
its side, without vehicle weight on it.

1.3 Tire lugs may be removed, siped, grooved or otherwise modified.

1.4 No competition specific tires allowed (see banned tire list). Modified tires must still
resemble a scale tire in design.

2. Wheelbase

2.1 No maximum or minimum wheelbase limit.

3. Chassis

3.1 Overall chassis length (including bumpers) must be at least as long as the wheelbase.
Stingers, spare tire carriers, winch plates, or other bumper mounted accessories are not
included in the overall chassis length measurement.

3.2 Chassis may be a ladder frame, back-halved ladder frame, molded tub, uni-body or a tuber.

4. Bodies

4.1. All bodies (including tubers) must measure a minimum of five inches wide from front to
rear of door, two inches above the skid and must measure a minimum of five inches tall as
measured from the skid to the tallest point on the body.

4.2. Body modifications including, but not limited to, pinched front, dove-tailing and boat-siding
are permitted as long as the final dimensions comply with the aforementioned rules.

4.3 Tubers must have at least panels or scale vehicle components (tool boxes, fuel cells, etc..) to conceal the electronics.

5. Other

5.1 Vehicles without an enclosed cab and/or doors must have the motor, transmission, and
electronics in the interior (drivers and passengers compartment) covered and hidden when
viewed from the top and sides.

5.2 Dig and/or rear steer are permitted. However, only the use of one or the other will be
allowed (per course) with the choice being left to driver’s discretion.

5.2.1 The initial use of dig or rear steer will incur a onetime penalty of +5 per course.

5.2.2 If during that same course you engage the other one, there will be a +10 penalty assessed
and your vehicle will be placed back at the last gate cleared on that course. The same penalty
will be assessed each time you use that item.

[Scattman]

Looks good to me.......the only thing that bothered me was having to run against what equaled to comp rigs.

[garym437]

From the looks of it my ax-10 2.2 is not considered a 2.2 scaler. so I have to run in the crawler class or change the chasis to a frame?

[RebelRacer]

Originally Posted by yoda@4x4

TTC/KOH/extreme trail truck
1. Tires

1.1 Maximum tire outside diameter of 5.75” as measured.

1.2 Tire diameter and width may be reduced, enlarged or combined with other scale tire treads
as desired. The modified tire diameter measurement will be taken with the tire/wheel laying on
its side, without vehicle weight on it.

1.3 Tire lugs may be removed, siped, grooved or otherwise modified.

1.4 No competition specific tires allowed (see banned tire list). Modified tires must still
resemble a scale tire in design.

So i would be correct about resembling a scale tire?

[RebelRacer]

Originally Posted by garym437

From the looks of it my ax-10 2.2 is not considered a 2.2 scaler. so I have to run in the crawler class or change the chasis to a frame?

That is correct.


As for the WB i think it means the tires cant be further foward or backwards of the fenderwells they have to be inside them.. maybe.

[CRAWL UGLY]

Originally Posted by badBKO

Are you ever just going to have fun gtg's and not always a competition?

I'm with Clint on this i was hoping a fun gtg or practice day this month sometime with no fees. I know this means no concession or HS but i'm cool with that and i'm sure some others would be too.

Originally Posted by muddbogger

When you say SCALE does that mean you will allow side plates and wk's?I dont care either way just want to get this out of the way so there's no fights about it later.

Originally Posted by kennyj

It says scale trucks, and top truck challenge. Doesn't that contradict itself? To me scale trucks should have a scale frame and go by scale rules, but top truck challenge should have no truck restrictions.

This is where i think the judges or majority of the crowd should rule on this one. I know the "guidelines" say no TVP but if you have a WK that you tried to setup as a scaler i don't see why you can't run it? It's not like they have any advantages with their tall ass frames and hi COG.

Obviously if someones trying to run an XR10 or RTC axial they won't be able to, but i think this is something that should be gone over at the event if they can run or not, b/c some have to drive a long way to come out and for them to just be turned around b/c of their chassis not being of the correct spec would suck and not do good for anybody.

Originally Posted by chicostaxxs007

its on i mite bring 4 trucks if my sons let me

Does that mean i might see the chevy again?

[chicostaxxs007]

sure does do you want your old body?

[Scattman]

Originally Posted by RebelRacer

So i would be correct about resembling a scale tire?

No, not really,...................................here is the banned tire list. It states that modified tires need to still resemble a 1:1 tire.


• BANNED TIRE LIST (the following tires are not allowed): Losi Comp Claws; Imex red
rocks, skulls and bones; Hot Bodies Rovers, Sedonas; Panther Cougars, Leopards;
Jconcepts RocX; Pro‐Line Chisels; RC4WD Rocklins, Crazy crawler, X‐locks; Losi Bashers;
Any buggy tires, truck racing type tire, pin tires.**

[Scattman]

Originally Posted by garym437

From the looks of it my ax-10 2.2 is not considered a 2.2 scaler. so I have to run in the crawler class or change the chasis to a frame?

Unfortunately yes.

[chicostaxxs007]

so what will you have on the jeep (tires)scatt?

[out4crawlin]

Im gunna have my losi ROCK claws

[Scattman]

Rock Claws probably, the same 4 tires that have been on it for years other than the 1.9 Rok Lox.

Wheels have seen better days though.

[muddbogger]

Originally Posted by RebelRacer

As for the WB i think it means the tires cant be further foward or backwards of the fenderwells they have to be inside them.. maybe.

I dont think this would be a problem or the guy who got 2nd last time would be out because his front axle was way out front.I hope they dont change that because mine arent centered,cant do it with the cab and tranny placement so..........

[Scattman]

Originally Posted by muddbogger

I dont think this would be a problem or the guy who got 2nd last time would be out because his front axle was way out front.I hope they dont change that because mine arent centered,cant do it with the cab and tranny placement so..........

Yep, that is why I tried to just stay with a basic rule of just needing a scale chassis because if we start trying to follow the rules to a T we will be forced to have numerous classes.

I personally don't care if someone's wheels are not centered in the body, I just want scale trucks to compete with scale trucks, not comp rigs in scale clothing.

[out4crawlin]

I agree with Scattman, I might change the wheelbase someday or get a new body, but being that I'm in the middle of building a berg I deffinatly can't afford a new body, and don't really not wanna use my $100 body.

[yoda@4x4]

Well if we go buy the rule I can't run my 2.2 rig for the same rule I am close but not sure how they judge that......

[beidave]

I can't believe we ain't crawling the crawlers. I feel so left out like the fat girl at the party. I Just got the bully off the slim fast, guess I need to sign the Jeep up for Jenny Craig!!!