is this to much for the wraith

[evan03]

Turnigy track star 150 and turnigy 2100kv.

I ordered it for the wraith but it now seems like way to much. The motor is huge. I've now been thinking about getting a 1/8 buggy or truggy to go with the motor combo.

But I got to think on 2 and 3 cell it would still be manageable at slow speeds. 4 cell would kick it up not be lacking power with paddles.

[ik632]

I have a Tenshock SC411 4000kv motor in mine and it's pretty big. You will need to trim the rear link mount because the motor will hit it. That motor may even be larger than the one I have though. If it's unsensored it may cog some at slow speeds though.

[stelerzman]

Can you get it to fit? Have you upgraded the drive line?

[greggreg2011]

theres really only 1 way to find out. stick her in and rip it!!!!!!

[evan03]

drivelines are stock.

ive been messing with my sv2 4200 system and i think my 3 cell batteries are the limiting factory , i may try a 45-65c nanotech and see how it runs. my 40c seems but i think it may be on its last leg its been run in a 3d plane for a ton of flights
i may try and fit the motor but i need to go to 32p gears.

also ran the paddles and it seems pretty dang doggy
Rock Racer with sand paddles in the snow - YouTube

thanks for the replies , gives me some to think about

[evan03]

Just orders a 56 32p spur to go with 14 pinion that's on the pictured motor. It may bolt on if the spur us big enough. Programming card for the ESC is also on the way. I've got 3 new 4cell 40c 2200s that fit perfect in this thing.

[evan03]

Installing it. Had to clearance motor plate, tranny, and skid plate also shimmed the tranny up a little.



Hoping the 56 spur I have on order reaches . The motor is touching the tranny housing in this pic

[undercoveraddict]

Only speaking from experience, that ESC is garbage. For your power, it might work great... but don't build anything custom that can't take a larger ESC. They are not meant for high power 150A setups. I'd recommend an HK150A or Hobbywing 150A Pro before that. I'd say those two are a step above the MMM and the MMM is a step above the Turnigy.

[AxialJeepster]

Originally Posted by undercoveraddict

Only speaking from experience, that ESC is garbage. For your power, it might work great... but don't build anything custom that can't take a larger ESC. They are not meant for high power 150A setups. I'd recommend an HK150A or Hobbywing 150A Pro before that. I'd say those two are a step above the MMM and the MMM is a step above the Turnigy.

those really arent all that bad of esc's, and for a foff its perfect. I had a MMM and that same motor in an scx10 FOFF and it was great, it will cog a bit at first but once the power is flowing it will rip. cool thing is those speed controls have 3 profiles, one is a rock crawler mode of sorts. decent drag brakes. I would run a high discharge 2s lipo with that setup. maybe 3s at most.

the axles should be fine stock, but your driveshaft and IDLER gear wont last long, they will need beefed up. shove some 1/4 ss tube up the stock shafts and toss some gunnar pins in the joints. the axial dogs and uni's are tuff as nails.

and to stay on the cheap, some HR lockers in place of the plastic diff housings. those wont last either.

[evan03]

I'm a castle guy through and through but this is a budget build. I read reviews on the hk150 as well as trackstar 150 I couldn't see a real one is better then the other. So I noticed the programming card has quite a few programming options and decided on the track star.

I fly castles on helicopters and have also been told there junk. We all have our own opions.

I'll be sure to get some vid on this setup .


Not sure what you mean on the drive lines. It does sound interesting.

[evan03]

Also I'd continue to use this ESC to power 10amp motor with a 20amp burst. The ESC is only the fuel line the motor will only draw the fuel it needs

Some motors want more fuel than can be delivered. There's are reviews saying this motor works with 120 esc both turnigy and HK. Yes I read a ton of reviews I often log a few hard evenings research before I buy I watched YouTube videos as well on these esc's

The ESC is to big for a smaller motor threw and makes me wonder about the exsperince.

External becs are recommended but I plan to try the internal became just to see. I also ordered a 65 constant disschsrge nano tech and bone cheap HK bec.

[Hacksaw707]

Nothing stock will hold up on 3 or 4 cell, tranny gears, drive lines, ring and pinion, dog bones and cups; all will be break almost instantly. Up grade all this, cvds with Gunner or home made music wire pins (super easy to DIY) MIP drive shafts, steel or aluminum gears with hardened out puts for the trans and heavy duty gears, then you can use the potential of that power plant


Or throw that SOB in and let the the sh@% scatter and show us your carnage pics.......


Keep us posted

[evan03]

i plan to scatter it ;)

been running a castle sv2 4600 system on 2 and 3 cell with no breakage yet. probly have about 2 hours runtume on the rig now.

i plan to let it rip in the sand and be easy on it for general use.

well see what happens

but yes i dont plan to upgrade till i see what breaks

[undercoveraddict]

Originally Posted by evan03

Also I'd continue to use this ESC to power 10amp motor with a 20amp burst. The ESC is only the fuel line the motor will only draw the fuel it needs

Some motors want more fuel than can be delivered. There's are reviews saying this motor works with 120 esc both turnigy and HK. Yes I read a ton of reviews I often log a few hard evenings research before I buy I watched YouTube videos as well on these esc's

The ESC is to big for a smaller motor threw and makes me wonder about the exsperince.

External becs are recommended but I plan to try the internal became just to see. I also ordered a 65 constant disschsrge nano tech and bone cheap HK bec.

I've had great luck protecting the ESC with large custom cap banks... I tried the BEC route, but when it failed under large voltage, it took the ESC with it. I'm not sure if your pulling amps anywhere near what I do, but if your in doubt, build or buy a cap bank. I use around 50V capacitors with a total of 5-6K uF for the entire bank. It works way better than an equivalent size high-discharge battery.

[evan03]

Undercover thanks for the tips.

How does a external beca take out an ESC? Or did you mean internal bec?

I calibrated ESC to the radio and fondled the motor with a 2 cell lipo a little. I'm thinking its going to work well using voltage to increase or decrease gearing for driving conditions

[evan03]

So close. This is a traxxas 66 spur had to heat the slipper and warm the spur in the oven to get them pressed together now going turn the gear down a fuzz to clear the yoke a little better. I'm going to order a 60. This 66 will most likely turn the 2100kv motor into a slow crawler.

[evan03]

quick vid. the trackstar 150 works pretty dang well.
this is 3 cell lipo suprisnly smooth with litle to no cog. drag brake is set at just under 100% havent seen temos come much over room temp yet.
Axial wraith with 1/8 scale buggy/truggy power - YouTube