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'04 Rubicon · 08-28-2008, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by shrek

can you please show a better picture of your four link mount thanks.

See next post.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stormin2u

Looks like you have a decent amount of clocking with you link lengths. Do you think the HR axles have as much turning ability? I'm really liking the 48 pitch pinions to.

Yeh the clocking is not too bad, I just need to get those rear links made. The pics below show more. As for the steering, not sure if it is more or less, I'll have to compare it to my AX10 GC2 and see. It does seem that some shaving could be done somewhere (stub bell or dogbone) to increase it, but I'm not sure.

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Originally Posted by binaryterror

Don't you mean .53 lbs for the Berg and .41 lbs for the Hot Racing. I know its just a decimal point, but my Berg Axles with the motors weigh FAR LESS than 5 lbs.

No man, them things are heavy. Yeh, I can't type. The scale displayed it correctly though.

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Originally Posted by tat2INDY

great write up cant wait to see how these hold up compared to the bergs

Thanks, more to come for performance and durability.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tat2INDY

what the hell is brunswick stew?

You can't be serious can you? You got to be kidding me.

Only the best stuff you can buy from the volunteer fire dept.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brunswick_stew. Southeast Rules!

'04 Rubicon · 08-28-2008, 08:28 AM

Got it running last night but I didn't wire in my dig unit yet, just wired both motors directly for now to see how it drives. The axles seem to be a little noisy to me but maybe because it was 2:00 in the morning and it was quiet and echoing inside the house. They drove very smoothly and are very responsive. For now I threw in an Axiom 55T 15T pinion on the front and an Axiom 45T 14T pinion on the rear. That's just what I had laying around and easy access to last night. I will admit though, wall and chair crawling it last night, it seemed to have plenty of torque and lots of wheelspeed on a 3S 2000 mAh lipo. Real rocks will prove it. The steering is not bad, but again, I'll need to compare it to both my AX10 and Berg. All I know is I kept hitting the dig button and got no response. It's funny how we get so used to something. Somehow my wheelbase has shrunk down to 12" so I need to figure out the best thing to dial it back in to 12.5, probably just move or extend the lowers a bit.

I tried to get a better shot of the link mounts and these are the only pics I have right now. If anyone needs to see anything else, please let me know and I'll take some pics.

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JohnRobHolmes · 08-28-2008, 08:35 AM

I like that the gears swap out. The more products with overlapping parts- the better!

O.C.D. · 08-28-2008, 09:25 AM

This really is grabbing my attention. A Berg alternative is always a good thing. I guess that means that the 2.2 MOA is here to stay. I have seen many Bergs and they are stout little axles. I commented on the finish of these in another thread. Do you feel that these are as well built and finished? I am digging the black look though.

Power_Wagon · 08-28-2008, 09:49 AM

your front castor is robbing you of your steering

cartronicshn · 08-28-2008, 10:17 AM

Ok i have a couple questions, so the axial straight axle and adapters wont work with the hr ones? all i will need are stock bearings, c-hubs, steering knuckles and axle ends right? also the berg link mounts? if someone can help me out with part #'s i would really appreciate it, i don't want to buy the wrong parts and get stuck with them all the way here in Honduras.

'04 Rubicon · 08-28-2008, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Power_Wagon

your front castor is robbing you of your steering

I don't know, the caster is not as bad as it looks in some of the pictures. It's nearly the same as my Berg.

Quote:

Originally Posted by cartronicshn

Ok i have a couple questions, so the axial straight axle and adapters wont work with the hr ones? all i will need are stock bearings, c-hubs, steering knuckles and axle ends right? also the berg link mounts? if someone can help me out with part #'s i would really appreciate it, i don't want to buy the wrong parts and get stuck with them all the way here in Honduras.

No, the rear straight axles and adaptors will not work.
Yes, you will need the stock bearings, axle stub, and knuckles, but not the c's as they are built into the axle. The link mounts come with the axle, both upper and lower. If you want to make it a four link using the same part I did, RCP sells it here - http://www.rcpcrawlers.com/product.p...&cat=29&page=2 .

If you have questions about a specific part, let me know.

Good luck!

sloppy · 08-28-2008, 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnRobHolmes

I like that the gears swap out. The more products with overlapping parts- the better!

WORD!!!!

'04 Rubicon · 08-28-2008, 01:44 PM

Shot this last night after wiring it up and hooking up the battery. It actually ran the first time turning it on.

Now, is it loud to you?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ombmav4lcnw

renoirbud · 08-28-2008, 02:15 PM

That does seem loud.

Did you use any lube when you assembled them?

Kamikaze · 08-28-2008, 02:36 PM

I guess I need to make a new upper link mount to make these Zero compatable.......

'04 Rubicon · 08-28-2008, 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kamikaze

I guess I need to make a new upper link mount to make these Zero compatable.......

Please do, I can be your prototype tester.

Looking forward to the 4.0 and links.

Robb · 08-28-2008, 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tat2INDY

what the hell is brunswick stew?

mmmmmmmmmmmm.............Fearnou's!!!

Going to be watching this one Mark. Looks Great!!

'04 Rubicon · 08-28-2008, 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by renoirbud

That does seem loud.

Did you use any lube when you assembled them?

No I did not. I only opened up one axle and it already had a light coat of grease, I did not add any. I have not put any grease on my Berg axles either but not sure if they are as loud.

I will try and add some grease, is there a preferred kind? I've just used regular lithium grease from Walmart on my DNA dig so I suppose that will be fine on these gears. I'll try and see if it helps. Thanks for the suggestion.

Grizzly4x4 · 08-28-2008, 03:24 PM

Based on the pic below, it looks like Jake is right about the upper link mount being 1/8" off. It looks like your axle is shifted to the "driver" side. Could you confirm or deny this?

Great info here man.

renoirbud · 08-28-2008, 03:53 PM

Hey

I prefer Black AE grease for al gears (except servos).

toy4crawlin · 08-28-2008, 04:26 PM

I was searching for " DIG servo" and found this, odd but glad I found this

Nice job, bet that thing Rocks now :-P
Axles look great!

Where can I grab some ?

That should increase you crawl factor by 100 !

renoirbud · 08-28-2008, 04:41 PM

hey

You can get them at the Crawler Store

'04 Rubicon · 08-28-2008, 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by renoirbud

hey

You can get them at the Crawler Store

Support your local RCC Vendor!

Stormin2u · 08-28-2008, 05:04 PM

It's defiantly got some gear noise for sure. I'll bet some of Rocksmith's GearJelly would knock that down a few decibels it's some good stuff.

08-28-2008, 08:28 AM	#22
'04 Rubicon Rock Crawler Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Hopewell Posts: 663	Runner! Got it running last night but I didn't wire in my dig unit yet, just wired both motors directly for now to see how it drives. The axles seem to be a little noisy to me but maybe because it was 2:00 in the morning and it was quiet and echoing inside the house. They drove very smoothly and are very responsive. For now I threw in an Axiom 55T 15T pinion on the front and an Axiom 45T 14T pinion on the rear. That's just what I had laying around and easy access to last night. I will admit though, wall and chair crawling it last night, it seemed to have plenty of torque and lots of wheelspeed on a 3S 2000 mAh lipo. Real rocks will prove it. The steering is not bad, but again, I'll need to compare it to both my AX10 and Berg. All I know is I kept hitting the dig button and got no response. It's funny how we get so used to something. Somehow my wheelbase has shrunk down to 12" so I need to figure out the best thing to dial it back in to 12.5, probably just move or extend the lowers a bit. I tried to get a better shot of the link mounts and these are the only pics I have right now. If anyone needs to see anything else, please let me know and I'll take some pics. . Attached Images

08-28-2008, 01:44 PM	#29
'04 Rubicon Rock Crawler Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Hopewell Posts: 663	See, it really does run. Shot this last night after wiring it up and hooking up the battery. It actually ran the first time turning it on. Now, is it loud to you? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ombmav4lcnw

08-28-2008, 03:24 PM	#35
Grizzly4x4 PapaGriz Yo Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: In the garage building the wife a crawler Posts: 13,137	Based on the pic below, it looks like Jake is right about the upper link mount being 1/8" off. It looks like your axle is shifted to the "driver" side. Could you confirm or deny this? Great info here man. Attached Images

08-28-2008, 08:35 AM	#23
JohnRobHolmes owner, Holmes Hobbies LLC Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Volt up! Gear down! Posts: 20,290	I like that the gears swap out. The more products with overlapping parts- the better!

08-28-2008, 09:25 AM	#24
O.C.D. RCC Addict Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Hiatus..sutiaH Posts: 1,620	This really is grabbing my attention. A Berg alternative is always a good thing. I guess that means that the 2.2 MOA is here to stay. I have seen many Bergs and they are stout little axles. I commented on the finish of these in another thread. Do you feel that these are as well built and finished? I am digging the black look though.

08-28-2008, 09:49 AM	#25
Power_Wagon Rock Stacker Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Bensalem Posts: 75	your front castor is robbing you of your steering

08-28-2008, 10:17 AM	#26
cartronicshn I wanna be Dave Join Date: May 2006 Location: HONDURAS...ROCK HEAVEN Posts: 5,076	Ok i have a couple questions, so the axial straight axle and adapters wont work with the hr ones? all i will need are stock bearings, c-hubs, steering knuckles and axle ends right? also the berg link mounts? if someone can help me out with part #'s i would really appreciate it, i don't want to buy the wrong parts and get stuck with them all the way here in Honduras.

08-28-2008, 02:15 PM	#30
renoirbud RCC Addict Join Date: May 2006 Location: China Grove, NC Posts: 1,395	That does seem loud. Did you use any lube when you assembled them?

08-28-2008, 02:36 PM	#31
Kamikaze I wanna be Dave Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Columbia TN Posts: 6,154	I guess I need to make a new upper link mount to make these Zero compatable.......

08-28-2008, 03:53 PM	#36
renoirbud RCC Addict Join Date: May 2006 Location: China Grove, NC Posts: 1,395	Hey I prefer Black AE grease for al gears (except servos).

08-28-2008, 04:26 PM	#37
toy4crawlin I wanna be Dave Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Campbell, CA 4 hrs 2Rubicon ! Posts: 2,044	I was searching for " DIG servo" and found this, odd but glad I found this Nice job, bet that thing Rocks now :-P Axles look great! Where can I grab some ? That should increase you crawl factor by 100 !

08-28-2008, 04:41 PM	#38
renoirbud RCC Addict Join Date: May 2006 Location: China Grove, NC Posts: 1,395	hey You can get them at the Crawler Store

08-28-2008, 05:04 PM	#40
Stormin2u I wanna be Dave Join Date: May 2007 Location: Taylors Falls just hanging with the MNRCRC crew. Posts: 7,843	It's defiantly got some gear noise for sure. I'll bet some of Rocksmith's GearJelly would knock that down a few decibels it's some good stuff.

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