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12-24-2008, 01:01 AM
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| Rock Stacker Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: 45th Parallel
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|  Snow Tire Chain Prototype w/ Dimensions
I was Going a little stir crazy with the snow this week. I ran a few battery packs thru the crawler (AX10- custom Chassis & Goat setup) this evening after work. I runs great in the snow. Then I got to Thinking…how about a making a set of Tire Chains with a tensioner.. Take a look… about 1 hour for the prototype. Flynfrog Last edited by Flynfrog; 12-24-2008 at 08:46 PM. Reason: revised title to include Dimensions |
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12-24-2008, 01:58 AM
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| Pebble Pounder Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Bournemouth
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Haha! Cool! Do they work?!
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12-24-2008, 02:55 AM
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| Quarry Creeper Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Baumholder
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Thats pretty cool, but those bring back nightmares for me. j/k it took us over an hour and a half last winter at an army field training event.
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12-24-2008, 07:41 AM
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| Quarry Creeper Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: i think its called houston
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DETAILS :-P im just about to get my wk back together and was thinking about doing somthing like that.  |
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12-24-2008, 08:21 AM
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| Newbie Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Tacoma
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My brother made two sets of those for our MRC's. The only difference I can see from your pics is that he used stainless chain. It was amamzing to see the chains actually dig in and make a difference in the snow. Not to mention they do sound great clanking into ice.
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12-24-2008, 11:53 AM
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| Rock Stacker Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: 45th Parallel
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| Assembly Specs to follow
I purchased the chain from Home Depot ($0.60 / Ft) - Jack Chain about 1/2" links. The links are easy to open & close. The chain tensioner is just a piece of surgical hose & a few open jack chain links. I still have 3 more sets to make. just like 1:1 chains I need to watch for linkage interference (rubbing). I'll post (this evening) the chain Lengths & Link count for the Stock AX-10 Lizard Tires. Flynfrog Last edited by Flynfrog; 12-24-2008 at 08:47 PM. |
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12-24-2008, 01:38 PM
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| Pebble Pounder Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Grand Rapids
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i remeber making some of these maybe 4 years ago for my clod buster. same idea and chain, they worked pretty good. but yeah pain in the butt to put together. fingers hurt after words too.
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12-24-2008, 08:21 PM
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| Rock Stacker Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: 45th Parallel
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| Dimensions
Long Side Runners: (2) @ 9-3/4" Cross Links: (9) @ 3-1/2" Cross Link Spacing: 1" apart (2 links) Chain: 1/2" Links - Jack Chain Flynfrog Last edited by Flynfrog; 12-24-2008 at 08:24 PM. |
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12-24-2008, 08:52 PM
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| Quarry Creeper Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: So.Lake Tahoe,Ca
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I also tried it the same way.I felt the truck was realy heavy,and it did not help.How ever,if you use an old set of tires and modifie them.Such as cutting off every other lug and Super Glue it on top of the remaining lugs.Kind of like paddles. I run them every where.Dirt,sand,snow,mud but they like to hop on rocks.They are still on my truck,have been all summer. Great in snow! So.Lake Tahoe,Ca Last edited by smokin0137; 12-24-2008 at 08:54 PM. |
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12-24-2008, 08:57 PM
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| Rock Crawler Join Date: May 2008 Location: carson city
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12-24-2008, 10:27 PM
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| Quarry Creeper Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: So.Lake Tahoe,Ca
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This is about the best I've got right now.I'll post more soon. http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/inde...mageID=8020991 Just be creative! |
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12-25-2008, 01:35 PM
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| Rock Stacker Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: 45th Parallel
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| Too Much Fun --Great Traction
I ran out of chain for one tire. Looks like it will take approx 18' of 1/2" jack chain. I ran the chains up front. No problem with the Ice & snow here in the NW. It climbs the Ice covered Curbs. Flynfrog Last edited by Flynfrog; 12-25-2008 at 01:47 PM. |
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12-25-2008, 05:54 PM
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| Quarry Creeper Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: So.Lake Tahoe,Ca
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Good job they look great.I like the gold color,it looks good on your truck.And your truck,the green is awsome!I'm lookin at your truck thinking I need a scale crawler.Is it mostly stock or heavily modified?Are those peices(chasis)for sale or do I need better machining skills?Looks like fun,good pics.
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12-25-2008, 06:37 PM
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| Rock Stacker Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: 45th Parallel
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The Chassis, Servo Plates & DIF bracket are of my design. 1/8" Aluminum cut with a band saw, scroll saw & a flat file. It just takes some time & patience. Flynfrog |
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12-25-2008, 06:49 PM
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| RCC Addict Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Mudville
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tried chains on my baja. WAY to much tire and wheel speed. lol made them the same way as you did, just larger. but at low speed, it worked really good untill i tried to go fast. lol i can see it would work really well on the crawlers. the trick is to keep them tight. a loose chain on a tire is like using a Goodyear for birth control |
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12-25-2008, 06:56 PM
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| Rock Stacker Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: 45th Parallel
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The Chain Tensioner helps - just a piece of surgical tubing (could have used an 0-ring) and a couple of open links. The Novak Goat can still put out some RPM s when needed. I could have also Safety wired the Slack out of the chain (just like the 1:1 for unsafe speeding on the highways). I'll be stopping by Home Depot tomorrow to pick up some more Jack chain. I hope the Ice is still here to run the 4-up chains. Flynfrog Last edited by Flynfrog; 12-25-2008 at 07:36 PM. |
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12-25-2008, 07:37 PM
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| Quarry Creeper Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: So.Lake Tahoe,Ca
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The more I look at your truck the more I like.I'm familiar with an AX10,but the goat sutup.Is that in the gearing? If I order an AX10 how much of it do I need?Is it cheaper to buy parts? BUILDING ONE |
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12-25-2008, 09:37 PM
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| Rock Stacker Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: 45th Parallel
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The Goat setup is the Novak Goat Brushless motor & ESC/Speed Controller. I am geared very low 13t/84t (t=tooth) with the AX-10 stock transmission. I am running a VF DIG unit. My Steering servo is a 400 oz/in JR DS-8711. The Tx is a Spectrum DX-6 that has been modified with a centering spring on the left (throttle) stick. The steering servo is powered by a CC BEC (10A). If you start with the AX-10 Kit and change out the Chassis the Crawler will take on a different performance personality. The links are Stock / upgraded Axial parts with HPI Shocks & Springs. If you like to tinker and fabricate, designing your version of a chassis may be rewarding. There is no Perfect Crawler design, if you are having fun and "know" your vehicle you may be surprised on what it can do / climb. Flynfrog |
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12-27-2008, 07:59 PM
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| Newbie Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: british columbia,canada
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lookin at your pics makes me want mine finished so much more i bought 5" of the same chain and it was nowhere near enough i used bout 3' per tire gotta get more tomorrow any videos? |
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12-27-2008, 08:15 PM
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| Rock Stacker Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: 45th Parallel
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I just finished my rear chain set. I used just shy of 18' of chain. I made a quick jig for laying out the chain. 2x6 with a 4 brads (nails) to stake out the chain. Jig up the 2 long sides & then hook up the cross links. Cuts the time down to less than 15 min each set (1) with the Jig. Sorry no video camera -- the snow has melted over night. I'll need to find a drift or plowed mound of snow / ice to try the 4X set of chains. Flynfrog Last edited by Flynfrog; 12-27-2008 at 08:17 PM. |
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